Dextops Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Capybara007 said: which its still specific for combat Boss combat is the only part where it’s useful which is even more specific and highly situational Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, frogettable said: I'm also surprised that nobody has considered that this might be a buff? What if Wolfgang ALWAYS has his speed boost instead of taking it away? If that's the case then Klei is doing a little trolling with these patch notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinofanTOG Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capybara007 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Yes wigfrid swag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie95 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 So presumably if Wolfgang doesnt work out he is stuck in wimpy form? That frankly sounds terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck986 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I've never seen any topic being hot more than three hours after being posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Jakeyosaurus said: you cannot upkeep mightiness during fights. How do you know that? Perhaps you have played it already? No, you did not. Is it really that hard to wait a week before having meltdowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangrove Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Wolfgang main here. Not thrilled about the mini games or the speed nerf And locking his playability behind a specific consumable/station sounds really scary to me. I love the old Wolfgang. I don't find him boring at all. It feels like this rework removes his speed, freedom and simplicity to replace it with inventory-hogging consumables, mini games, upkeep stations and gameplay disruptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleksyPL Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 11 hours ago, lakhnish said: Where did the sack of potatoes go? It's new Krampus sack skin, Wolfgang exclusive ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Wolfgang refresh didn't came yet and people are already here coming to his funeral. ... some may also be celebrating his funeral, but it ain't me. For all this trouble Klei owe us a giant sack of potatoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattwalt Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 There's a whole lot of negativity on here before numbers and gameplay are even available, so let's all just keep in mind that: A) the dumbbell could be great. Maybe it has Alarming Clock level damage numbers? Perhaps it's "consumable" in the way that the Morning Star is (pretty likely, actually). B) losing speed is a bummer, sure, but to keep that speed up before required constant snacking anyway. Using the dumbbell to maintain mightiness while using a mag and cobblestones for speed during fights like most other characters is still viable for boss fights. C) we don't know how quickly mightiness drains, but at least the dumbbell allows you to maintain mightiness away from the structure. The mini game will likely only be necessary occasionally, and depending on cost of the structure, you could just build some in key locations. D) his damage will now be consistent in mighty form instead of gradually decreasing as hunger drains. E) dumbbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 "Oh no the game is too easy. Klei please help fix this!" Klei changes how Wolfgang works. The forums and the office are on fire. People inciting riots. "Wanda TOO OP" threads turn to "PETITION TO SAVE WOLFGANG :(" threads start popping up. Forumites emerge from their windowless homes coming to the streets and yelling: "THEY NERFED WOLFGAAAAAAAAAAAAANG!!!" While bystanders walk past confused and concerned. The update is still a week away and everyone's at panic like the world's ending. There will be so many new gender threads popping up about Wolfgang now I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double F Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 14 hours ago, . . . said: Looks like Wigfrid will be the new Wolfgang. hahha my tougts exactly, this refress is looking like a hell of a nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 is weird that they remove the speed boost but x6 damage remain xd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: is weird that they remove the speed boost but x6 damage remain xd Me too if really. Maybe they didn't mention something about it? Cuz that's a big nerf considering that it was part of his power. The two times the damage is great but maybe they're still considering what to do with the speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harambe Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Look what they've done to my boy . All the reworks have been good, but this one ain't looking too good for Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capybara007 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: "Oh no the game is too easy. Klei please help fix this!" Klei changes how Wolfgang works. The forums and the office are on fire. People inciting riots. "Wanda TOO OP" threads turn to "PETITION TO SAVE WOLFGANG :(" threads start popping up. Forumites emerge from their windowless homes coming to the streets and yelling: "THEY NERFED WOLFGAAAAAAAAAAAAANG!!!" While bystanders walk past confused and concerned. The update is still a week away and everyone's at panic like the world's ending. There will be so many new gender threads popping up about Wolfgang now I bet. There is no mistery that these patch notes are bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot-sensei Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Let him study his legs for speed bonus . I cannot play slow wolfgang . PLEASE KLEI ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh2 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 oh no, oh no no no. R.I.P classic DS design wolfgang, hello perk soup walter-esk DST wolfgang. Jesus, what a way to go... Yikes wolfgang wasn't even overpowered. Firstly, what was wrong with the speed boost? this is the most egregious change, i'm sure as any experienced player will admit, speed is a good portion of this game's combat, so naturally a speed boost to the combat-orintated character seems fitting, why change this, because having a 25% conditional speed boost is too OP when newer characters have speed boosts for just being in the right season standing on the right turf or just straight up teleporting to any point anywhere. Secondly, the meter, just why? Why change a simple clean character design into some weird meter based work out thingy, may users in this threat have already pointed out it wont even fit with wolfgangs mighty stomach quotes, it's just complexity for seemingly no reason. Some of the changes sound alright, i agree mighty wolfgang should have the rowing boost and should be unhindered by marble pecies and marble suits, i also agree that wolfgang's current downside was too little, but just increasing the sanity drain is dumb, why not make insanity monsters be immune from from his damage multipliers? Making being insane while mighty not just free nightmare fuel, and being insane while wimpy not take forever to kill. I do like the idea of wolfgang losing less sanity when there are other survivors nearby however, that's a neat thing more for character building, like winnona's free hit from the dark thing I think this is all too much, wolfgang was super simple and enjoyable, and didn't change gameplay too much, now not only will being mighty change gameplay even less, but it will be more annyouing and tedious to maintain. Anyway, wanda is the new improved wolfgang now so i expect the wolfgang playerbase to migrate to either wigfrid, wanda or wx as a result of this rework. I hope all the wolfgang OP people are happy. Look at how they massacred my boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallBirdHungry Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Oh wow it's coming out on my birthday! Cool. I don't really use Wolfgang too often but he seemed really overpowered. This seems like a good balancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh2 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Duck986 said: I've never seen any topic being hot more than three hours after being posted yeah when klei are essentially removing wolfgang and adding a new called dogcrew it's gonna be controversial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 now i wonder, how will wicker and robo change be? i mean, people talk about how those are the holy 3 or something like that, will we see simmilar changes to these 2 too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetNerfedOn Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr.Medic said: now i wonder, how will wicker and robo change be? i mean, people talk about how those are the holy 3 or something like that, will we see simmilar changes to these 2 too? Klei mentioned they were steering away from reworking the holy trinity before, in a screenshot shared by Canis i can no longer locate. Reason: this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBlocos Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 You could make it if you train more legs you get like 1.3x speed and 1.8x damage, or train arms and get 2.3x damage and 1.1x speed or something like that, would make playing changing your workout based on what you want, dont know if suggestions are still on time for this refresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DajeKotlyar Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Remember how community ask for nerf Wanda before release. She become a solid and enjoyable character. Just trust Klei, they know what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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