PuffinBy Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Can't tell it's a buff or nurf with the numbers not out, yet. But I feel only these changes are needed. 45 minutes ago, JoeW said: When Mighty Wolfgang can carry heavy items faster Wolfgang is a more efficient rower when Mighty Wolfgang can craft a consumable Dumbbell item Rest just feels not fun or like more chores added for player. Anyways, all above is based on my guesses, still looking forward to get mind blown when the update's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Bun Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Please Klei I beg you to at the very least, let us keep our speed when mighty if anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splorange Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 39 minutes ago, Guille6785 said: yep they ruined one of my favorite characters joe warned us about this im glad they are getting rid of the linear values, i hope they get the mighty meter stuff right because i can see myself actually playing him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 people talking about nerf when they didnt release it. The only clear nerf is the speed one which idk how to feel about it, maybe klei dont want cheap speed boost since is the most important stat anyways, maybe his damage is buffed since it will be flat (so x2 at mighty all the time) and with the new meter we might not need to waste that much time farming food and topping all the time the hunger meter to get x2 lets wait before saying stupid things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 this gym shenanigans feels kinda weird, so off Constant the way he gets strong relatin to how much he eats was kinda the point around this char and now havin to stop to WORK OUT i dunno lets wait a lil to see but Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: kinda surprised they removed his 2x speed buff though It was at most 1.25x, but due to the linear decrease & time it takes to stop to eat small foods it was more like 1.2x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motemei Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I love how it's called refresh yet there's only 1 thing that's not a nerf, and it's useless! This is all just unnecesary changes and extra steps to get worse benefits than before, truly the worst update I've seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated Fish Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I find it interesting that this is what they decided to go with I don't think its the worst thing honestly I'd like to try it Wolfgang not being as stupidly op isn't really an issue for me he really didn't need the speed actually doing something other than stuffing your face with food is alright with me I personally would like to try it before I decide its a bad update or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 haha so many speculations and player suggestions seem to have been used XD I remember people predicting a workout gym, and a circus bell he can carry with him, pumping iron to gain mighty form instead of just eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motemei Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, Educated Fish said: I find it interesting that this is what they decided to go with I don't think its the worst thing honestly I'd like to try it Wolfgang not being as stupidly op isn't really an issue for me he really didn't need the speed actually doing something other than stuffing your face with food is alright with me I personally would like to try it before I decide its a bad update or not. All this does is make the process more tedius and require you to craft stuff, I don't see how it could be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I hope this acts similar to how the farming rework did. A bit more complicated, but if you put in a bit of effort you can profit exponentially. Depends on what else full mightiness does. I’m also pretty intrigued by the idea that you’ll be motivated to carry heavy items around everywhere. Perhaps we’ll get some kind of giant storage backpack, like an early krampus sack? That would be pretty sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiTeii Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I honestly think that a lot of this is just a nerf lol there was maybe 5 small things they needed to change rip wolfgang's good mechanics i guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanKSB91 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, YouKnowWho said: I hope this acts similar to how the farming rework did. A bit more complicated, but if you put in a bit of effort you can profit exponentially. Depends on what else full mightiness does. I’m also pretty intrigued by the idea that you’ll be motivated to carry heavy items around everywhere. Perhaps we’ll get some kind of giant storage backpack, like an early krampus sack? That would be pretty sick. Oh like the potato sack from the teaser image? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Motemei said: All this does is make the process more tedius and require you to craft stuff, I don't see how it could be good Yeah, why add a mini-game on top of already needing to invest time into the gym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motemei Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, YouKnowWho said: I hope this acts similar to how the farming rework did. A bit more complicated, but if you put in a bit of effort you can profit exponentially. Depends on what else full mightiness does. I’m also pretty intrigued by the idea that you’ll be motivated to carry heavy items around everywhere. Perhaps we’ll get some kind of giant storage backpack, like an early krampus sack? That would be pretty sick. That seems better, but again, it's easier and more effective to carry stuff in a beefalo anyways, and there's already an item that slows you down to give you extra inventory, the piggy backpack, and not too much people use it because going slow is not fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, CodexCorporis said: you guys said you wanted the game to be harder. now your easy mode gets taken away and you're crying? what do you want? this has nothing to do with it they took everything that made wolfgang good ruined it made it more tedious and tried to tape it together with scotch tape he never needed any nerfs in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VriskWhisk Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 On top of Winona 'pults being placed on almost every boss fight now there's going to be Gym equipment alongside all of them too. Hopefully the Gym equipment has a bit of a circus-y theme to fit with the Side Show Twitch collection. Personally not a Wolfgang main but as Splorange just mentioned, Klei did see a backlash from the community so I'm sure they will try to adjust the best they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balloonomancer Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, CodexCorporis said: you guys said you wanted the game to be harder. now your easy mode gets taken away and you're crying? what do you want? people complain on every post before an update even comes out i can see why people might say the might thing could end up being annoying but we don't even have the numbers yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanKSB91 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, HowlVoid said: Yeah, why add a mini-game on top of already needing to invest time into the gym. I imagine is to make it interactive so we don't just wait and watch Wolfgang doing exercise until the meter is full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornete Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, balloonomancer said: people complain on every post before an update even comes out No in-game footage, no gameplay, just words and people are getting angry despite having not actually played the content yet. I remember people thought the new farming would be annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, GuyNamedChris said: Wishful thinking but I hope the old tencent-exclusive marble torch and firepit skins are included on Klei Rewards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: people talking about nerf when they didnt release it. The only clear nerf is the speed one which idk how to feel about it, maybe klei dont want cheap speed boost since is the most important stat anyways, maybe his damage is buffed since it will be flat (so x2 at mighty all the time) and with the new meter we might not need to waste that much time farming food and topping all the time the hunger meter to get x2 lets wait before saying stupid things You right. See guys next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakhnish Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 My question is if Wolfgang is gonna keep his 6x damage multiplier when he fights wet targets with Volt Goat Jelly lul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 idk how tedious it will be, but it sounds like you cap your mightiness with a gym, then run around with a barbell everywhere staying maximum mighty. The circus bell doesn't consume hunger, and his values aren't linear so it sounds like the tedium of stuffing your face as you run around is gone. I kinda assume that you won't lose mightiness while fighting, or that its fall off will be sufficiently long that you can complete boss fights without dropping forms. They don't say they increased his damage, and honestly going much higher than 2x would be crazy... But I think a 2.25 or maybe even 2.5 mighty multiplier it will make up for the speed nerf. If his damage is the same, and he's going to need to carry a dumbbell while running around... maybe a speed boost is required since any time with a dumbell is time without a cane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 i cant belive it, wolfgangs quotes about him eating things to get mighty are now all fake, HOW DARE YOU?!? you have created something weird, and alsol something weird whit proppably something time consuming, oh boy wonder how 1 of my friends will react to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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