Zeklo Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Why not make Mandrakes a really potent weed? Or a special weed-crop hybrid. Have it consume all nutrients in bulk, and stress other plants out. Maybe even make it rot if you don't take care of all 6 criteria (meaning it wouldn't have a giant variant). Limit it to 1 per tile too or something. I think making it a very difficult plant to take care of with special conditions would be infinitely more enjoyable than limiting it to Klaus/deconstruction weirdness. I don't think giving it seeds would be a good idea, but leaving it entirely up to low RNG doesn't sound great either. Regardless, thoughts? Can't say I'm expecting anything less than harsh opposition, heh. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 It could work. Maybe as a reward for perfect cycles your chances of spawning one grow, but I'd still leave it RNG. So even if it wouldn't replace the other methods, its yet another one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapientis Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Would a giant variant be just an ordinary Elder Mandrake? Perhaps you could plant dead Mandrake and with precise care and solicitude it would grow to a Mandrake Hill? It could be used as a plant-kind defense of our farm. And after that we only need Zombies introduction to DST Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevicelion Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Sounds like a mod that should be made after the final release, because tbh I don't think we'll see changes to vanilla Mandrakes, but can't say it wouldn't be good. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Honestly the Elder Mandrake’s creepy unhappy looks make me highly uncomfortable for ever plucking, killing, cooking, eating, or using in a item ingredient a Mandrake baby.... I could just imagine these things going around like the city guard pigs in Hamlet Mauling you to death with their Halbreds for plucking a few flowers out their Gardens.. except these would maul you for picking Mandrakes. In fact: Klei did clearly say that Neglecting your crops won’t kill them, but you might regret it.. I think a living angry face looking plant mauling me to death would certainly end up being regret! So many crazy things they could do.. your carrot crops could turn into Carrat and then the part Rat part Carrot creature then proceeds to eat your other crops or simply just run off so you gotta chase them down again. I think in a game like Don’t Starve & Don’t Starve Together the more food references, and living food animal/plant hybrids the better. But that’s just my opinion others may disagree. I would love to see Elder Mandrake in DST though.. they look intimidating. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikapikap Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Sapientis said: Would a giant variant be just an ordinary Elder Mandrake? Perhaps you could plant dead Mandrake and with precise care and solicitude it would grow to a Mandrake Hill? It could be used as a plant-kind defense of our farm. And after that we only need Zombies introduction to DST It looks very bad a s s i like it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepufferfish Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I live for the day I can eat mandrake soup every day of the year. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Rae Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Slightly off topic kinda relevant...why doesn't a crying mandrake count as music for my crops? Tested. Sadness. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Elder Mandrakes reminded me of how they like the moon. So maybe every full moon a mandrake has a chance of springing up on a plot or something? Makes it semi-relevant to Return of Them too. 21 minutes ago, Kay Rae said: Slightly off topic kinda relevant...why doesn't a crying mandrake count as music for my crops? Tested. Sadness. Burning living logs doesn't work either afaik. Shame. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrimbles Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Mods are going to be great once people have time to study all the new code. I think I'd like more plants to be harvestable and reproducible, the panflute deconstruction method is a bunch of nonsense, but if the farming method was balanced enough, I think it would be a fair trade with enough effort put in. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlogy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Zeklo said: Why not make Mandrakes a really potent weed? I didn't read this properly, so I thought you were asking for something way more fun and illegal than what you really said. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 oooor, just have mandrakes occasionally grow like carrots XD no need to have it wipe out the tomas Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nick- Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Maybe if you shovel the mandrake weed, it runs around and causes players to go insane, like Queen Womants sound blast. This would make rabbit earmuffs useful against the suckers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrimbles Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, gaymime said: oooor, just have mandrakes occasionally grow like carrots XD no need to have it wipe out the tomas Free mandrakes for no effort? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1397943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 hours ago, Scrimbles said: Free mandrakes for no effort? worldgen already gives you free mandrakes for no effort so why not get one or two a year for sticking around? it is also a nice little surprise for basebuilders too Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 You also have to factor in that only intermediately skilled players are going to know what to do with Mandrakes.. there’s still the people out there picking them, burning them, and eating them for their hunger, sanity and health values. For THOSE people Mandrakes wouldn’t be anymore important than “insert random food or item here” Its only the players who actually know all the Mandrakes uses who are going to actually be benefiting most off of them. But this a two way door, it swings open in one direction for those noobs to have access to them, and it swings open ease of Renew ability for those experienced players who get angry when said noob “Wastes” their limited Mandrakes.. There certainly still needs to be some degree of challenge involved- such as plant care requiring ingredients from distant lands (giving the boats an actual use beyond just I’ll do it but it feels optional..) AND IF that Mandrake plant does not get the care it needs it goes bad.. and you then have Elder Mandrakes grow from them and they then proceed to maul you for improper care. I feel like In a game called Don’t Starve there should be not just the survivors themselves, but other constant inhabitants trying not to starve, and I think Angry animal/plant Hybrids fit into that role nicely. Renewable Mandrakes sounds like it would prevent a lot of players from cursing poor children out when they run around eating them, but yeah that just my opinion. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 That would be real nice, I was hoping Klei consider adding more plants with this agriculture system after this update, not just veggies and fruits like we got for Warly's arrival (appreciated tho), but weeds, flowers... there's a lot of potential if some of the updates content include a plant, or any resource you can cultivate, all it needs is a different growing progress eventually so it can be more unique. Let's think of it, Moon phases could be a nice idea, but difference places between caves / surface too (or moon island and biomes, specificity)... maybe keep those for future plant ideas. Now for Mandrakes : they like to do that (annoying or cute depending of players) song when they follow someone, why not imagine something like make the usage of the One Man's Band a requirement to grow the plant, or it will lock in place or die (from boredom ?), or take other mandrakes out to support (by countless and endless screaming) their growing friends. That just sounds fun ! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikapikap Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ADM said: That would be real nice, I was hoping Klei consider adding more plants with this agriculture system after this update, not just veggies and fruits like we got for Warly's arrival (appreciated tho), but weeds, flowers... there's a lot of potential if some of the updates content include a plant, or any resource you can cultivate, all it needs is a different growing progress eventually so it can be more unique. Let's think of it, Moon phases could be a nice idea, but difference places between caves / surface too (or moon island and biomes, specificity)... maybe keep those for future plant ideas. Now for Mandrakes : they like to do that (annoying or cute depending of players) song when they follow someone, why not imagine something like make the usage of the One Man's Band a requirement to grow the plant, or it will lock in place or die (from boredom ?), or take other mandrakes out to support (by countless and endless screaming) their growing friends. That just sounds fun ! +1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 15 hours ago, Starlogy said: I didn't read this properly, so I thought you were asking for something way more fun and illegal than what you really said. Technically the Constant has no law enforcement or government so nothing is illegal. 21 hours ago, Zeklo said: Regardless, thoughts? A mandrake being possible to obtain through arduous farming is the best idea I've ever heard in at least the past 10 minutes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Cheggf said: Technically the Constant has no law enforcement or government so nothing is illegal. Swinesbury would like a word with you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, minespatch said: Swinesbury would like a word with you. RoG Together is out of their jurisdiction! They can't tell me what to do! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumch Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Agreed! Pan Flutes feel weirdly limited when literally every other source of putting enemies to sleep is reliably renewable (And in the case of 2 of them - much cheaper!). Dragonpies are a lot easier to get now due to giant crops yielding at least 2 fruits, and saladmanders giving guaranteed drops - so having mandrake soup actually be a viable use of the little guys would be nice. Well that, and I feel the deconstruction staff method of gaining mandrakes back is very cheesy and non-intuitive. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Is it fair that Mandrakes aren't even the most OP thing in the game so why not just have them grow? If that were the case then I hope Klei removes them from Klaus's drops cause it's better to just farm them then or hope they grow in the garden. It's, like, one time soup you can make and panflutes aren't that used commonly in the game unless the couple of bosses you wanna deal with by cancelling their attacks (aka dragonfly's rage), of course - that's very useful, but most bosses are now immune to sleeps or sleep for a very short time and it kinda limits their use. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryvrdrgn14 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Some complicated and rewarding farming with Mandrakes is a great idea. It could spawn a boss, an ally or just allow you to have more mandrakes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousCube Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Holy hell yes! I hate that the only way you can get them is from Krampus once you catch the wild ones in your world. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/124078-on-the-topic-of-mandrakes/#findComment-1398539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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