Questions that don't deserve their own thread.

[Mike23Ua]

Do Tallbirds inflict damage to themselves when they try to peck you and hit the ground instead? And if not.. why do their bodies blink and they winch in pain when they peck the ground if it’s not causing them actual health damage?

If they DO take Health damage from missing you and pecking the ground.. is it possible to kill a Tallbird by just letting it literally peck itself to death missing you?

If this isn’t how tall birds work in DS/DST can we get this as an official change to Tallbirds?

[-Variant]

1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said:

Do Tallbirds inflict damage to themselves when they try to peck you and hit the ground instead? And if not.. why do their bodies blink and they winch in pain when they peck the ground if it’s not causing them actual health damage?

No, it's just a silly animation quirk.

[Falkenpelz]

Is there any reason to show up with spiders at a Df fight, since they are guaranteed to get insta-toasted by the first enraged move anyways? Bonus question: Do literally all creatures consider lavapools perfectly fine ground to walk over?? I've known about larvae and Chester for a while now, but I just watched open-mouthed, as a dozen smiling spiders roasted themselves happily while trying to get to me...

[FourthLess]

21 minutes ago, Falkenpelz said:

Is there any reason to show up with spiders at a Df fight, since they are guaranteed to get insta-toasted by the first enraged move anyways?

If you're quick enough, you can put Dragonfly to sleep before she does a stomp. 

[Cheggf]

37 minutes ago, FourthLess said:

If you're quick enough, you can put Dragonfly to sleep before she does a stomp. 

You can also bring so many spiders that the losses are acceptable casualties. 

[Waoling]

Is it a good idea to base near Wormhole, cave or ocean?

[ArubaroBeefalo]

3 hours ago, Waoling said:

Is it a good idea to base near Wormhole, cave or ocean?

wormhole can be good depending of world gen. Also you can use the worldhole to jump when hounds are about to come so you prevent any fire hound in base or hounds in mob pens without the need of having an ugly empty area in base for hound killing

yes. easy and quick access to caves has a lot of benefits like not wasting time picking lightbulbs in early, dusk meat delivery service via bats, quick travel arround the world if there are other cave exists to far away biomes. Also saves time if you plan to build a cave base in summer

the ocean brings many cooking improvements like being able to plant kelp near your kitchen (veggie filler+sanity food when dried), making lureplant boats to farm leafy meat, fishing fishes or woabsters if lucky world gen or building a kitchen on top of beats so hounds or deerclops dont interrupt your cooking. Also you can plant giant trees which brings some benefits like having figs and some weather protection 

[Frogzard]

On 5/16/2022 at 12:16 PM, reallychina said:

Is thermal stone max tempetature capped? I remember reading you get most of it with 4 furnaces, but would adding a starcaller on top make it hotter?

 

Or can you do 3 furnaces and 1 star for max effect?

Yes, it caps at 90 degrees. More furnaces/stars gives you diminishing returns though, so it's up to you how many you want to use.

(Tested on day 25)

3 furnaces: 77.2 degrees

3 furnaces + star: 81.6 degrees

4 furnaces: 82.4 degrees

4 furnaces + star: 86.1 degrees

In both cases it adds roughly 4 degrees, which during winter translates to the stone lasting an extra 20 seconds longer before going cold.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

4 minutes ago, grumm9690 said:

Travel through sinkholes usually gets nullified by loading screen time and about ocean fishing, well, seriously, who uses DST ocean fishing at all and who regenerates sanity with kelp and uses boats to escape hounds and builds summer cave bases? Most of those are just not profitable or stats from the far past.

ok

[Cheggf]

3 hours ago, grumm9690 said:

Travel through sinkholes usually gets nullified by loading screen time and about ocean fishing, well, seriously, who uses DST ocean fishing at all and who regenerates sanity with kelp and uses boats to escape hounds and builds summer cave bases? Most of those are just not profitable or stats from the far past.

Grumm built different with the 150x movement speed modifier outrunning loading screens. 

[Mysterious box]

19 hours ago, grumm9690 said:

seriously, who uses DST ocean fishing at all

Keep in mind that that the only reason people were against removing trinkets from merm king's loot table was because he drops a trinket that's useful for fishing.

 

19 hours ago, grumm9690 said:

who regenerates sanity with kelp

The lunar island usually comes with 30 to 40 bull kelp stalks which can be planted near your base and harvested every 2 days without any upkeep you can then put them on a drying rack for only 2 mintues for a sanity food that lasts 20 days and heals for 10 sanity meaning about every 18-20 mintues you get 300 to 400 sanity's worth of food that stacks to 40 please tell me your not implying that's bad...

[ArubaroBeefalo]

6 minutes ago, grumm9690 said:

Probably because merm king rewards you with gold for ocean fishes. Also, those were probably Wurt mains if it's about merm king, so eh. Judging by their character picks they don't exactly pick stuff depending on how useful it is anyway.

and another comment showing how little idea you have 

6 minutes ago, grumm9690 said:

I mostly mean why would you need sanity food?

kelp is one of the best ways to keep CC crown active during combat

[Mysterious box]

11 minutes ago, grumm9690 said:

Probably because merm king rewards you with gold for ocean fishes. Also, those were probably Wurt mains if it's about merm king, so eh. Judging by their character picks they don't exactly pick stuff depending on how useful it is anyway.

 This was a talk point long before  Wurt got reworked so that can't be a reason and believe it or not  they weren't all Wurt players.

 

16 minutes ago, grumm9690 said:

I mostly mean why would you need sanity food? In first autumn you can just farm nightmare fuel to get enough ruins loot & dark swords, after first winter you got shanter and only in late-game you may use sanity regenerating food for CC crown. And if you're going to talk about bosses, for fuelweaver you usually have bee queen crown and deerclops doesn't live long enough to need a ton of sanity food. The rest don't have sanity aura or it only triggers for short periods of time (bee queen screams) or it's weak (Klaus) so it doesn't even matter.

Interesting so your saying noone cares about sanity food until the late game that's a bold claim right there.

[Mysterious box]

9 minutes ago, grumm9690 said:

If they weren't wurt mains, why did they care about merm king trade loots? Weird.

Simple it's called don't starve TOGETHER and some people play with friends or just take advantage of using merm king benefits when they're there might sound crazy but some non Wurt even use merms to gather resources.

12 minutes ago, grumm9690 said:

Some do, sure, but they may just not know the better alternatives or, most likely, peolpe who haven't learned to kite nightmares yet.

Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure most don't follow the stay insane till you get tamo method not just people who aren't good at combat.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

12 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure most don't follow the stay insane till you get tamo method not just people who aren't good at combat.

everybody fight terrorbeaks during boss fights and even when they have many chests filled with NF, not a waste of time at all. Or in early when you have enough NF because of ruins rush and wanna do other things quickly...

follow the """meta""""

Edited June 8, 2022 by ArubaroBeefalo

[ArubaroBeefalo]

8 minutes ago, grumm9690 said:

This is disgusting to read. Show at least some respect to someone who you talk about, that kind of messages only shows how disgusting your personality is. Cringe tbh. You can just raise your sanity up a bit before boss fight using whatever, even flowers if you want, you don't need 400 or whatever sanity from kelp farm. You won't get all chests filled with nightmare fuel in just first autumn unless you intendedly eat green caps as your main food source.

now say it without crying

when i said that you can have a chest filled with nf in early days? who has a kelp farm in early days?

my comment wasnt even aiming only your comment but the general concept of 24/7 insanity which is always mentioned but is dumb for how much time is wasted fighting shadows instead of doing other more important things or how certain users say how insanity isnt a danger without taking in count situations like boss fights

or how people think that certain strategies are useless because they dont use them, sometimes because everything that isnt in a tutorial youtube video isnt worth

[Moonatik]

I didn't know that old farms still works. I have almost 50, and it works even with new seeds. Is it normal ?

[ArubaroBeefalo]

1 minute ago, Moonatik said:

I didn't know that old farms still works. I have almost 50, and it works even with new seeds. Is it normal ?

they didnt removed the code, just removed them from the crafting tab as far as i know

[Moonatik]

1 minute ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

they didnt removed the code, just removed them from the crafting tab as far as i know

Ok, thanks. I'm glad I can use them.

[Waynel]

On 6/6/2022 at 10:27 PM, grumm9690 said:

Travel through sinkholes usually gets nullified by loading screen time

The issue is not the loading screen time but to get those golden sinkholes in the first place; it's much rarer than decent wormholes.

 

On 6/6/2022 at 10:27 PM, grumm9690 said:

who.. builds summer cave bases? Most of those are just not profitable or stats from the far past.

This depends on many things ranging from your skill level to how you approach the game (more focused on boss rushing or base building), your base designs, and so on.

The biggest reference in this matter is probably Helicalpuma’s (r.i.p) “DST Tips: Building a Base in the Caves” yt video from 2017.
But that strat stemed from subjective game choices: he was aiming for a megabase on a long term world, without wanting to sustain flingos at every farm nor spend every summer glued to his small oasis base, hence summer spelunking.

A great deal of updates were introduced since 2017 and most of the new content was related to the surface world; you can get knobbly trees to protect certain areas from wildfires, you can stay on a boat to practically negate wildfires (as smoldering items on a boat hardly go unnoticed), and the 1st summer is also the season when players can finally acquire pearl’s pearl.

In short, less incentive to spend summer in the caves.

 

But a summer cave base isn’t necessarily done for “killing time” on a day 1000 world. Don’t forget that clearing ruins in summer is a common practice in dst, and new players won’t be able to get jellybeans + bq crown before their first summer so they might throw a crock pot or 2 and a cage for perogies.

 

Now you know “who builds summer cave bases”.

 

8 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

everybody fight terrorbeaks during boss fights and even when they have many chests filled with NF, not a waste of time at all. Or in early when you have enough NF because of ruins rush and wanna do other things quickly...

follow the """meta""""

It’s no doubt a waste of time to fight shadows 24/7 at every stage of the game, but in your first autumn you don’t want to go out of your way to have your sanity topped off since you need fuel for a shadow manipulator and various other magic items. With the exception of boss fights It just is better to be insane, or to put it accurately, to not prevent your sanity from being drained “naturally”.
So this is not about shoving green caps and evil petals: let dusk, night, and mobs such as spiders or hounds eat away your sanity, and then restore it by killing shadows when they become hostile.

If you fall to 29 sanity and kill a crawling horror, your sanity is now up to 44; assuming it’s dusk or night it won’t be until 3 minutes later that a shadow will attack you again, and killing a crawling horror takes about 5 seconds with a fresh hambat.

Not even mentioning how much sanity is restored during your first autumn via prototyping items.

Besides, It’s not a purely hypothetical scenario where people enter the ruins with 200 sanity, rush the maze, kill ag, mine some statues, and end up not having enough fuel to craft everything they wanted.

 

On 6/7/2022 at 6:33 PM, Mysterious box said:

The lunar island usually comes with 30 to 40 bull kelp stalks which can be planted near your base and harvested every 2 days without any upkeep you can then put them on a drying rack for only 2 mintues for a sanity food that lasts 20 days and heals for 10 sanity meaning about every 18-20 mintues you get 300 to 400 sanity's worth of food that stacks to 40 please tell me your not implying that's bad...

Kelp is terrible in the early game as it requires drying racks. They’re not worth getting in the late game either imo as the sanity boost from the celestial crown + an occasional jelly salad will have you covered.

It has a niche use for fights with the celestial crown in the late game if you don’t have a tea farm, that’s it.

 

20 hours ago, grumm9690 said:

 Judging by their character picks they don't exactly pick stuff depending on how useful it is anyway.

People do indeed play Wurt and Webber for the gimmick. They are horrible picks if you play for sheer efficiency (in which case you’re gonna play Wendy), but that doesn’t make them bad characters as you can enjoy characters that force you to play in a different and original way, albeit less efficient.

[Mysterious box]

16 minutes ago, Waynel said:

People do indeed play Wurt and Webber for the gimmick. They are horrible picks if you play for sheer efficiency (in which case you’re gonna play Wendy), but that doesn’t make them bad characters as you can enjoy characters that force you to play in a different and original way, albeit less efficient.

How is Wurt poor efficiency? I mean I get webber suffers in harvesting ability but Wurt gives some of the fastest boss fights unless your going for purely pub play.

[Duck986]

2 hours ago, grumm9690 said:

See, that's what I'm talking about. Disgusting piece of garbage and cringe instead of a person. Forums didn't change much it seems.

 

What's the point then if I said that you can use shanter when you get it (so 21+ day sometimes)?

 

This is dumb to not read my message though while responding to it. Didn't I mention shanter? It's regeneration is enough. Also, didn't I already say that you can fill up your sanity a bit before boss fights and you don't need 40 kelp for it? Can you use your eyes at least for something?

 

Meanwhile all this discussion contained arguments and not just "I don't use this". I'm going to assume that this isn't about me, because otherwise this'd be just dumb to say.

Sorry mods, it's too hard for me to say this in English, so I will say in Russian.

Грумм, ты серьёзно? Я после ухода с нашего сервера начал часто видеть тебя на форумах, и ты ни капли не изменился - ты всем продолжаешь навязывать твой стиль игры, а когда тебе говорят, что не все ему следуют, ты отвечаешь "Well, too bad for them". И когда тебе отвечают сарказмом, ты говоришь, что "это отвратительно читать" и что кто-то "a disgusting piece of garbage and cringe instead of a person". Не говоря уже про руинс раш, который ты по каким-то доселе непонятным мне причинам в той или иной форме вдалбливаешь в голову всем, кого видишь.

Как ты ожидаешь нормальное обращение к себе с таким поведением? Ты обижаешься на незначительные вещи и поливаешь грязью форумы, продолжая на них находиться, при этом не видя проблемы в себе. И пока ты их не увидишь - ты не изменишься никогда.

Аналогичная ситуация была и с DSHK, не буду ее описывать, ты сам все помнишь.

"Если тебя часто вспоминают - наверное, ты сделал этим людям что-то очень нехорошее" - (c) я.

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by Duck986
it's pretty translatable tho

[JoeW]

Warnings were issued. Keep things polite and without personal attack. 

[lowercase skye]

On 6/6/2022 at 4:27 PM, grumm9690 said:

who uses DST ocean fishing at all and who regenerates sanity with kelp

you're treating this in a very... myopic way. i.e treating it like because you don't personally see these things being done, nobody is, when the reality is that the people doing it are simply not in your immediate perception. i know a ton of people including me who do both of these things all the time, they're fun! and kelp especially is super lucrative for how little effort it takes.

[HowlVoid]

On 5/21/2022 at 12:25 PM, reallychina said:

hounds can't be penned unless you bait them, but at that point they will no longer kill glommer.

seems like best choice is a catcoon but i don't know if it kills glommer offscreen. I'd be tempted to say it does since you usually find glommer goop if you don't pick it up at day 11.

You could try a bishop (trapped with human skeletons), a spitter, a knight?, And maybe an anemanie (not sure if it will trigger though since flying).

Edit: A tall bird grown from a small bird.

Edited June 8, 2022 by HowlVoid