[Game Update] - 560308

[Zeklo]

To add to people's 'expanding' Umbrella suggestion.

Rather than a stagnant object, if it worked like a staff that just casted an 'umbrella' that floats above the player. I think that would, not only make it incredibly useful for the acid rain, but then also be a convenience for the usual rain in spring. That way you can just cast this 'buff' and use whatever equipment (which ofc includes the Brightshade gear for murdering shadow fellas). It would be freeing and worthwhile. Then you just gotta add a 'less protective' piece of gear for the moments before you kill the Ink Blights, and voila.

Unless Klei has some other anti-acid rain features planned, I really think the extra work would be worth it.

[-Nick-]

I do hope the unique faces for the shadow hood is added later on when you guys have time. I loved this feature.

Maybe add it back for this hallowed nights? As a little treat.

Edited June 7, 2023 by -Nick-

[chirsg]

4 hours ago, V2C said:

• Fixed a crash with Wigfrid attacking the winged Ink Blight.
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was this wigfrid only? wow. well, thanks

[RockOnTable]

3 hours ago, Memetan said:

Can we just make pillars or columns to get protection from boulders and rain? Like @ADMsuggested. It would be perfect, not only because of the protection, but also to add a new craft to the new ShadowCraft Plinth that already has few crafts, and as an awesome way to decorate caves.

Pictures are from @Creatorofswamps

Kinda like the monkey queens thing! I would love something like this but it’d have to be really expensive 

[-Nick-]

I could see different forms of support beams. Wood, stone, thul, and moonrock.

[RockOnTable]

23 minutes ago, -Nick- said:

I could see different forms of support beams. Wood, stone, thul, and moonrock.

Marble would be amazing 

[Well-met]

1 hour ago, Instant-Noodles said:

Nightmare Werepig Figure (Marble / Moonglass / Stone)

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Terror Below Main Menu Animation (Updated)

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Wilson with Void Cowl and Void Robe (Old vs New)

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The cowl should have no eyes at all. There's still many edge cases where it looks silly, like when worn by followers

[Ryusuta]

Okay, I have no idea why people are complaining about boulders not targeting structures. I think it's the perfect solution. I'm satisfied with it.

Yes, it's not "realistic," but I'm pretty sure realism got tossed out the window once we started punching butterflies for butter that we eat to heal our injuries.

[00petar00]

Overall, pretty good changes.

I would've preferred if boulders were replaced with something else that doesn't stay after an earthquake.

[Zeklo]

26 minutes ago, Ryusuta said:

Okay, I have no idea why people are complaining about boulders not targeting structures. I think it's the perfect solution. I'm satisfied with it.

It's not a good solution because it went from 'problem you want something to deter' to 'pointless annoyance.' Not to say they weren't, more or less, a pointless annoyance before, but the destruction gave enough incentive to seek a solution. Now though, it adds absolutely nothing but harmless tedium to mine.

[Ryusuta]

33 minutes ago, Zeklo said:

It's not a good solution because it went from 'problem you want something to deter' to 'pointless annoyance.' Not to say they weren't, more or less, a pointless annoyance before, but the destruction gave enough incentive to seek a solution. Now though, it adds absolutely nothing but harmless tedium to mine.

It was always a pointless annoyance, and it will continue to be a pointless annoyance as long as it's in the game. What you're asking is for it to be a resource drain on top of it. I like Klei's solution much, much, MUCH more.

I'm really not interested in making "Ice Flingomatics, but for earthquakes" just to keep my stuff from being destroyed.

[Pticman]

1 hour ago, Ryusuta said:

Okay, I have no idea why people are complaining about boulders not targeting structures. I think it's the perfect solution. I'm satisfied with it.

Yes, it's not "realistic," but I'm pretty sure realism got tossed out the window once we started punching butterflies for butter that we eat to heal our injuries.

People complaining because the boulders are meaningless now. Before they had at least a purpose - base destruction - even tho it was implemented bad. Now they don't provide any challenge whatsoever while still blocking the players. What is the point of adding them then? Moving from "unfair" to "pointless" is not the perfect solution, and I am pretty sure there are many ways to either rebalance or replace them with something interesting.

Edited June 8, 2023 by Pticman

[WhackE]

5 hours ago, Zeklo said:

There really isn't much purpose for the umbrella if the void armor provides full acid rain protection. I'm not sure that's the ideal direction to go.

Especially because... isn't the whole idea to wear the Brightshade gear to fight shadow monsters?

Similar concerns with the boulders. I said it before but I don't want less problems, I want more solutions. The boulders remain an addition that don't add a whole lot other than mining tedium. I'm frankly not really sure what the point is. At least acid rain gives us a boost in nitre from ponds and bats.

The talking scythe & NWP statue are cool.

As a whole though, I'm very concerned now that the cave mechanics are going to wind up half baked. I do understand you're on a schedule but the solutions chosen here are very simple, mundane, and don't provide a lot of fun 'counterplay' wiggle room.

Summed up every issue here very concisely.

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Lol they they're now in the caves and not outside anymore 

@HorneteGot his wish. Are you happy now.

[Ryusuta]

9 minutes ago, Pticman said:

People complaining because the boulders are meaningless now. Before they had at least a purpose - base destruction - even tho it was implemented bad. Now they don't provide any challenge whatsoever while still blocking the players. What is the point of adding them then? Moving from "unfair" to "pointless" is not the perfect solution, and I am pretty sure there are many ways to either rebalance or replace them with something interesting.

That purpose was a lame one and shouldn't have been on the table. I dunno why the forums suddenly did a 180 and thought it would be fun to have bases destroyed completely at random, but I will never agree with that idea.

[Cassielu]

19 minutes ago, Ryusuta said:

That purpose was a lame one and shouldn't have been on the table. I dunno why the forums suddenly did a 180 and thought it would be fun to have bases destroyed completely at random, but I will never agree with that idea.

When people are disappointed with this change, they are actually disappoint that Klei is not using the better scheme on the forum.

a threat that needs to and can be confront (new meaningful things to do) ＞ a pointless annoyance (just bother you) ＞ a threat that cannot be confront (Absolutely terrible )

Edited June 8, 2023 by Cassielu

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Dang, I guess Charlie is going to keep looking funky then lol.. at least the scrapbook can be disabled now that's great!

[ALCRD]

5 hours ago, Wardin25 said:

You're gonna have to play SOMA to answer that

I highly recommend that he does xD

[RockOnTable]

2 hours ago, Ryusuta said:

It was always a pointless annoyance, and it will continue to be a pointless annoyance as long as it's in the game. What you're asking is for it to be a resource drain on top of it. I like Klei's solution much, much, MUCH more.

I'm really not interested in making "Ice Flingomatics, but for earthquakes" just to keep my stuff from being destroyed.

Look, look I get you, but pillars would be really cool for decor 

[Castiliano]

9 hours ago, Anthony_L3hr said:

Rawr.

What about Dreadstone Figures? 

[YouKnowWho]

9 hours ago, Memetan said:

Can we just make pillars or columns to get protection from boulders and rain? Like @ADMsuggested. It would be perfect, not only because of the protection, but also to add a new craft to the new ShadowCraft Plinth that already has few crafts, and as an awesome way to decorate caves.

I'd like this, though I'd honestly prefer if it were implemented some other update rather than off the cuff of this one. After all, pillars already have their fair share of cheeses.

[Ryusuta]

53 minutes ago, RonanMcQ said:

Look, look I get you, but pillars would be really cool for decor 

Fair!

[Paxtonnnn]

10 hours ago, V2C said:

• • Please note that while we would’ve loved to make this work, it is too complicated at this time to fix the layering issues as well as have it work with every skin in the game.

Were the layering issues really that bad? I haven't been able to play the beta until now but the unique faces for the hoods was so charming, and imo didn't need to be different with skins.

[Baark0]

3 minutes ago, Paxtonnnn said:

Were the layering issues really that bad? I haven't been able to play the beta until now but the unique faces for the hoods was so charming, and imo didn't need to be different with skins.

I'm sure it can be re-added with mods. If anyone who knows a thing or 2 about mods has some time to kill, there's something you can look into.

[Paxtonnnn]

2 minutes ago, Baark0 said:

I'm sure it can be re-added with mods. If anyone who knows a thing or 2 about mods has some time to kill, there's something you can look into.

Of course, but it's still always a shame when something neat gets removed and has to be added back with mods. (I still want Wilson's original beta idle animation back)

[YouKnowWho]

As for the cowl, I'm personally not that big of a fan on the new eyes. They don't really line up with any of the other shadow creatures. I'd prefer it if they were a little more rounded, or better yet if instead the hood cycled between those peering eyes you get at low sanity.

14 minutes ago, Paxtonnnn said:

Of course, but it's still always a shame when something neat gets removed and has to be added back with mods. (I still want Wilson's original beta idle animation back)

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