Blazing Falken Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Say hello to the Chill Pill 500. By harnessing the power of un-powered fridges, non-space age materials, and 500kg of coal (500 vitamin chews), you too can cool a single aquatuner at full load for nearly zero power. Cycle 1551 temps: (fluctuates between 168-171) Heat load for aquatuner. Previously 85c, I heated it up to 250c at cycle 1554 to demonstrate/eliminate any cooling from ceramic insulated pipe. Cycle 1560 temps: Rail system: Power: Automation: 140 Buffer, 95 Filter, 5 Filter (delays rail delivery until door closes) Automation signal on un-powered fridge is inactive; wire can be routed differently. Vitamins being delivered into un-powered fridge (average 20-30c instantly) Vitamins on their way back to the fridges after heating: Insulated tiles and fridge are ceramic, metal tiles and temp shift plates are copper. All other equipment is steel. Please use responsibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I love it. Awesome work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Bartmoss Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I love ONI! Great Job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shark Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I'm afraid I don't follow - what do unpowered fridges do that makes this actually cool? I'm assuming the vitamins are chosen because they don't spoil, but presumably any non-spoily food would work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, Red Shark said: I'm afraid I don't follow - what do unpowered fridges do that makes this actually cool? I'm assuming the vitamins are chosen because they don't spoil, but presumably any non-spoily food would work? Unpowered fridges immediately resets the temperature off everything you put in it. The only difference between a powered and an unpowered fridge is the ability to use the automation output. Vitamins are probably used due to them being the cheapest way to get the 500kg mass. You could use food as well, doesn't matter. The heat capacity of food and medicine is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hechicera Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 So, you developed cold medicine? (I'll show myself out ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSatx Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Unpowered fridges immediately resets the temperature off everything you put in it. Resets it to what? also I can't help noticing they're not flooding.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, DaveSatx said: Resets it to what? to 20 ~ 30 C after being stored in fridge (quoting the post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, Red Shark said: I'm assuming the vitamins are chosen because they don't spoil, but presumably any non-spoily food would work? The only non spoily foods are nosh beans and berry sludge. However, nosh beans cannot be put in a fridge (not sure if this is a bug or not). The vitamin chews are definitely much simpler to mass produce right off the bat than berry sludge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobucles Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Resetting the temperature is a clever way to use vitamins. What if the fridge is plugged in? Does it delete enough heat to be worthwhile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaCoke Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 thats a Orville reference, I get it Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, bobucles said: Resetting the temperature is a clever way to use vitamins. What if the fridge is plugged in? Does it delete enough heat to be worthwhile? No. Then it produces heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazing Falken Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 If the fridge is plugged in, there seems to be some weirdness to the way the items chill after removing from the fridge. The first 80kg will be dropped to the 20ish c and get a little lower, but there will be 20kg of the items that will slowly continue to drop to 4c, but will not exchange heat or do so at an extremely slow rate. that amounts to 100kg of wasted cooling. With the fridge turned off, this does not occur. I suppose more foods or other items could be used if the petroleum acts as sterile, maybe another fluid could be used. Either way, vitamin chews are very cheap and easy and the end result is all the same. Plus, couldn't resist calling it the chill pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiros Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Looks like another unintended mechanic that Klei will patch out eventually. I'd imagine Klei never intended an unpowered fridge to cool anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Thematic, jokey name, bonkers mechanics, absolutely brilliant, nobody has done it, extremely useful, will probably cause a fight online. This is the epitome of ONI. Extremely awesome work man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroturtle Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Finally a use for vitamin chews! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 While I do applaud the ingenuity, the whole attempt shows pretty clearly that cooling options need a major re-balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Clever use of automation as well. There not being a temperature sensor is pretty significant proving how solid it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I hardly think anyone would have expected me to pass up an opportunity to min-max a new exploit to hell and back. So here it is. You only really need 200 vitamin chews and 2 fridges to keep up with an aquatuner cooling water or polluted water as long as you accept an operating temperature very close to the maximum of some of the parts within. However, I could not find room enough for a temperature controlled version with two fridges so I made one with 3. Expand to 4 if you're cooling super coolant. There was also no reason to keep the aquatuner and the fridge cooler in separate compartments so I just joined them up to make it as compact as possible. Wiring is extremely simple. Same goes for plumbing Conveyors are also as basic as it gets. There's no reason to snake the rails as it provides no additional cooling what-so-ever, so point to point it is. Automation timings are as close as possible leaving a bit of room. Temp sensor that starts the cooler is set to 190C. I haven't run it long enough to actually test if that is the equilibrium but around that I expect to level out. I just spawned in hot petroleum and made sure over 20 cycle that the temperature is indeed dropping. And the save file for anyone interested. Timeline.sav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazing Falken Posted July 15, 2019 Author Share Posted July 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, Saturnus said: -snip- I had kept the cooler and AT in different places because the cooler was meant to be just that, a universal stand-alone cooler. The AT was just an external heat load with a common heat deletion target. Hats off to you for combining the two and crushing it even smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Saturnus said: I hardly think anyone would have expected me to pass up an opportunity to min-max a new exploit to hell and back. So here it is. I assumed you would be posting very soon. I was waiting for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junksteel Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Woah, that's a cooling option! Very well thought! Simple and elegant. Thanks for sharing! Is it an exploit? I mean, not in the moral sense, but in practical terms... are fridges working as intended or there is a chance we'll have that patched out and no fun allowed etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Saturnus said: I just joined them up to make it as compact as possible. And now it fits into the 4 tile high rows that lots of people love. That should increase reuse. Just nestle this puppy in the corner of some seldom used row in your base, and tada, all cooling is taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Junksteel said: are fridges working as intended or there is a chance we'll have that patched out and no fun allowed etc? Klei rarely says, and things always change. Try it out. If you're having fun, who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Saturnus said: I hardly think anyone would have expected me to pass up an opportunity to min-max a new exploit to hell and back. So here it is. file for anyone interested. Timeline.sav Nice job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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