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  1. Shutoff automation

    Try with an element sensor as intended.
  2. Shutoff automation

    Easier to just use an in-line blockage sensor which is the first part of the packet stacker here: Oh, and shut offs despite their description uses no power at all. They just need to be connected to a working circuit.
  3. I think @Neotuck's test conclusively show that limiting flow in any way has absolutely no long term effects.
  4. I thought Thursdays was the traditional throw-back day. Not the first example of this type of liquid sorting on the forum but the oldest I could find in a pinch-
  5. No. You haven't. You're obtusely still trying to fail to grasp that it's a tool to make steam turbine builds much easier to set up. Use it if you want, or don't. Just like you can choose not to comment on this thread. You can use a gold amalgam aquatuner. You just have to follow the general guideline for that which is to have a layer of petroleum or crude oil at the bottom to sink the heat from the aquatuner into and use diamond temp shift plates (middle bottom) to distribute the heat from the petroleum/crude oil to the steam. The aquatuner maxes out at 154C in this build if you just take those normal precautions. Note that unless you make the steam chamber 3 tall (and have the temp shift plate in the middle), you lose a bit of efficiency when using a gold amalgam aquatuner as the return water will block the 3rd port on every other tick so the steam turbine will run a bit hotter (about 3C hotter) and it will produce slightly less power (about 10W less on average).
  6. Not if you seal it off. And most people use LOX for cryofuel which logistically would normally be advisable to make near where it's needed, ie. in space, where there's a vacuum, so your objections are baseless.
  7. You're still missing the point. The metal (or window) tile is so much more efficient than any gas that it doesn't matter what gases and what amount of gases you have, or indeed if any, around the steam turbine. The metal (or window) tile will account for minimum 99.9% of the cooling regardless. So it makes it much easier to set up a steam turbine build, no matter if you want it sealed or not, because you can simply ignore any and all gases around the steam turbine.
  8. Why would you need to seal it off? It works regardless if it's in a vacuum or not. I think someone, you specifically, is overlooking the fact that since the foundation is in a direct thermal contact with the metal (or window) tile that includes the x200 multiplier. So it's far far far far far far far far far far (x10 far's) more efficient than any thermal transfer medium including supercoolant.
  9. As noted. The whole thing is in vacuum. So yes, I'm sure or I wouldn't post it.
  10. So I was playing around with some setups and by accident discovered that steam turbines do not need a thermal medium to be cooled. The steam turbine is in direct contact with the foundation, so all that is needed to cool the steam turbine is a metal tile with a radiant pipe running through it. You can do this whenever you're not using all the steam turbines ports. So most set ups really. Only set ups where you can't really use it is if you're actively using the water output from steam turbines and thus are probably interested in as much throughput as possible. But for most builds that involves steam turbines you can use it, especially split steam turbines as detailed in this thread are good candidates to be tweaked with this new information. Here's an example of a minimalistic water cooler based on this. This cools water from 39.8C to 20.3C average. Note that since it has no real buffer it's quite fiddly with setting the temperature sensor as it relies on the ratio between hot and cold packets allowed through. Here the temperature sensor is set to 25.8C. The actual output temperature varies between 15.2C and 25.2C but will quickly average itself out in any actual set up simply due to radiant pipe mass buffering. Temperature in the steam chamber is between 132C and 135C so a gold amalgam aquatuner can be used. The steam turbine here in a vacuum is being cooled only by the cooling loop to between 31C and 35C. The power output of the steam turbine averages to about 190W in this set up. The top two metal tiles cools the steam turbine and actively uses the thermal mass of the steam turbine to equalize temperatures in the cooling loop. The two bottom metal tiles are just thermal buffers and can be omitted.
  11. Or better still: one aquatuner instead of thermoregulators.
  12. When you stop feeding them they'll still reproduce under the right circumstances. So the idea is only to feed them until you have a large enough population that you can live on the meat they drop when they die of old age. For example, it will require a pacu population of 25 to get one pacu fillet dropped every cycle on average. Combined with meat from hatches or Shove Voles as the most popular choices that's enough to feed 6 dupes with surf'n'turf.
  13. No. Once tame they stay tame, and their offspring is tame as well.