HowlVoid Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ohan said: I love how reading the light shaft books in the caves creates an earth quake, really awesome attention to detail. As one of only like 5 (if even that) wicker mains on the forums lol im really happy with this refresh, all things considered. Best refresh menu animation ever. My queen…So cool. looking forward to her refresh skinset. It better include a skin for her book cabinet! Wicker is S tier because she can bypass the magic tier 1 station and craft Wormwood a bat bat (also, night armor and darksword). Alone I still think she's a bit meh, but in a group she is so awesome. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra B Welch Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: if you base in the oasis you wont suffer from moonstorms and the utility of that book shines in early to have access to more glommers, farm were pigs on demand, have light for boss fights, make woodie transformation last longer, etc after CC you rather activate the storm so you forget about the book or have enough star callers, krampus sacks, etc so you dont need full moons outside of niche things or being lazy to care about having light sources I mean, the book is two papyrus and two moon rocks, that's kinda cheap. Also I guess in that case the oasis is the only base option now? Also "access to more glommers" just sounds like encouraged glommer abuse... Excuse me while I go be depressed now... I was literally only replying to someone's concern for Woodie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohan Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Faintly Macabre said: Strongly feel that Maxwell should be barred from using some or all of these new books. Yeah i was thinking this too tbh lol. With the book cabinet slowly refreshing the books too u wont even need to portal swap to craft new ones as max once u make a bunch. i wont lose too much sleep over it though *shrug*. Edited July 14, 2022 by Ohan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Terra B Welch said: I mean, the book is two papyrus and two moon rocks, that's kinda cheap. Also I guess in that case the oasis is the only base option now? it is if you plan to have moonstorms 24/7 1 minute ago, Terra B Welch said: Also "access to more glommers" just sounds like encouraged glommer abuse... Excuse me while I go be depressed now... I was literally only replying to someone's concern for Woodie... catcoons, pigs and glommer are 0s and 1s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, skile said: it does that? amazing. Yep. It restore's the book's durability over time. The only reason I specified 2-3 books is because I don't know the exact rate, but regardless, Wickerbottom can just make night completely irrelevant with little investment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, h2mk said: eating souls spawns krampus lmao I tihnk he needs to call Krampuses faster than other characters 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbb Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Ohan said: Yeah i was thinking this too tbh lol. With the book cabinet slowly refreshing the books too u wont even need to portal swap to craft new ones as max once u make a bunch. i wont lose too much sleep over it though *shrug*. This is not a good idea. Maxwell is not very strong as it stands, so we may as well let Maxwell ride on Wickerbottom's coattails right now. When his rework hits, maybe we can rethink his ability being able to read Wicker's books. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 From testing walter, woby can take one source of damage that is <40 (not including 40, so a bunnyman attack will cause woby to buck) once every 4 seconds without bucking walter. Good for resisting a jumping warrior spider, spitter spider or a shadow spelumonkey attack. Woby WON'T resist a shot from a bishop tho, so still got to watch out in ruins for the 360 no-scoping bishops sadly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skile Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Theukon-dos said: Yep. It restore's the book's durability over time. The only reason I specified 2-3 books is because I don't know the exact rate, but regardless, Wickerbottom can just make night completely irrelevant with little investment. this seems pretty good. although now i feel like the cost of some books is a bit cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faintly Macabre Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, ssbb said: This is not a good idea. Maxwell is not very strong as it stands, so we may as well let Maxwell ride on Wickerbottom's coattails right now. When his rework hits, maybe we can rethink his ability being able to read Wicker's books. On the contrary: it's exactly because Maxwell needs reworking that this should be done. If you let him use all these books for a while and then take it away from him, that will just make everybody even more angry, and if you don't, it will either heavily impact the rest of his rework or just completely invalidate Wicker. Wicker's rework should not be Maxwell's rework. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, zobm said: nah, he is one of the strongest support characters and he will be even stronger now Oh yeah, much op, I can't wait to continue to only play Wolfgang, Wanda, and WX. Edited July 14, 2022 by cybers2001 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2mk Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cybers2001 said: Oh yeah, much OP, I can't wait to continue to only play Wolfgang, Wanda, and WX. Wolfgang ain't so tough, is he? Not very cool since he needs to lift weights to stay normal. Wes is TOTALLY a more powerful character, both reworks considered. Edited July 14, 2022 by h2mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ohan said: Yeah i was thinking this too tbh lol. With the book cabinet slowly refreshing the books too u wont even need to portal swap to craft new ones as max. i wont lose too much sleep over it though *shrug*. It heals the books?! Wait, that's huge. That changes my perspective on everything lmao. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakhnish Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, HowlVoid said: It heals the books?! Wait, that's huge It's 1% every 30 seconds, 2% if Wicker is in a 3 tile radius of the book stand. 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssbb Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Faintly Macabre said: On the contrary: it's exactly because Maxwell needs reworking that this should be done. If you let him use all these books for a while and then take it away from him, that will just make everybody even more angry, and if you don't, it will either heavily impact the rest of his rework or just completely invalidate Wicker. Wicker's rework should not be Maxwell's rework. It certainly does not invalidate Wicker. Having 50 more health is enormous, and Maxwell’s gathering ability is not so strong that it incentivizes players to definitely swap as Maxwell right after they make an enormous library. What will likely happen is Klei will make such an excellent Maxwell rework that, even if they take his ability to read Wicker’s books away, the players will not only tolerate, but also understand that the change needed to happen. Edited July 14, 2022 by ssbb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, lakhnish said: It's 1% every 30 seconds, 2% if Wicker is in a 3 tile radius of the book stand. Thanks, I didn't know about her nearby bonus. What's the cost of the bookcase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) Wortox will gain a small amount of sanity for being healed by a soul. Klei, no, please! Controlling Wortox's sanity is the challenge of playing him, as far as his main downside... Wortox already fills hunger/full life all the time, now it will fulfil sanity too. Imagine if Wigfrid fighting, in addition to raising sanity/health, also raised hunger Edited July 14, 2022 by Castiliano 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, HowlVoid said: Thanks, I didn't know about her nearby bonus. What's the cost of the bookcase? Annoying, but pretty cheap overall, given that you only need 1. Just now, Castiliano said: Wortox will gain a small amount of sanity for being healed by a soul. Klei, no, please! Controlling Wortox's sanity is the challenge of playing him, as far as his main downside... He gains 2 sanity per soul lmao. I'm not even sure why they bothered. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skile Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, HowlVoid said: Thanks, I didn't know about her nearby bonus. What's the cost of the bookcase? 4 boards, 6(?) gold, 4 paper and 1 feathered pencil (you're going to make bookcase in any case though, as it also doubles as a crafting station for new books and in general a good storage for books(it also can store paper)) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohan Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, HowlVoid said: It heals the books?! Wait, that's huge. That changes my perspective on everything lmao. Yes, veryyy slowly though. I was typing up how idk the exact numbers and then lakhnish posted them You’ll still need to craft several of the same books if u want to use them in quick succession like with krapus farming etc. Its a really good qol thing for late game though when u have cabinets full of books. Definitely lessens her hunger for reeds, kind of ironic after the addition of monkey tails lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Castiliano said: Wortox will gain a small amount of sanity for being healed by a soul. Klei, no, please! Controlling Wortox's sanity is the challenge of playing him, as far as his main downside... and makes no sense to feel guilty by getting souls but also getting sanity when wasting them 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) Bookcase - books stored inside have their durability increased by 1% every 30 seconds, 1% more for each wickerbottom present in 3 tiles radius Horticulture, Expanded - plants limit increased to 15, it also has delayed start, tends and adds a bit of nutrients, -50 sanity for wurt Silviculture - has bonus effect: can put to sleep treegaurds, has cool new visual effect The Angler's Survival Guide - spaws few fish schools in nearby water, +50 sanity for wurt Pyrokinetics Explained - extinguishes fires in 3 tiles radius, gives fiery pen that acts like fire staff, durabilty depends on amount of fires extinguished, can be increased by extinguisihng more fires with book, -33 sanity for wurt Overcoming Arachnophobia - spawns a spider web under your feet that slows down enemies for 30 seconds, -33 sanity for wurt Tempering Temperatures - sets body temperature of players within 4 tiles radius to 35 degrees, dries off players and items in inventory, makes you waterproof until you log out or change shard + 33 sanity for wurt Lux Aeterna - spawns a beam of light about 3 tile radius that stays there for half a day, causes eartquake if in cave, +33 for wurt Lux Aeterna Redux - same as above but beam stays for 2 days, +50 for wurt Practical Rain Rituals - starts rain if its not raining, stops rain if it is raining, if youre standing on farm soil while reading it gets imminently saturated with water, +33 for wurt Lunar Grimoire - makes full moon to be on the next night, -33 for wurt Apicultural Notes - summons 3 grumble bees to fight for you until theyre dead, -33 for wurt The Everything Encyclopedia - players in 4 tiles radius are able to craft items from higher tier science (does not work for things like pseduoscience station or moon altar), +33 for wurt Edited July 17, 2022 by Parusoid 27 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2mk Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Theukon-dos said: Annoying, but pretty cheap overall, given that you only need 1. He gains 2 sanity per soul lmao. I'm not even sure why they bothered. i think it clarifies something lore wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frashaw27 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, ArubaroBeefalo said: and makes no sense to feel guilty by getting souls but also getting sanity when wasting them He feels relieved that the souls are no longer in his hands and are not in his stomach 1 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellHeater Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, HugoM said: Klaus will now step over the Loot Stash. why doesnt anyone see this we are doomed 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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