Terra B Welch Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, splorange said: 1. woodie continues to suffer from constant full moons, he used to only suffer during late game in which moonstorms were active but now they can be early game and unpredictable. woodie really *really* needs a way to reliably deal with full moons with how often they appear compared to the past What if the Lunar Grimoire required the upgraded celestial orb for her to craft but otherwise kept the same recipe? At least then it would be locked behind CC, which to me would make sense for a book that literally summons full moons on demand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Terra B Welch said: What if the Lunar Grimoire required the upgraded celestial orb for her to craft but otherwise kept the same recipe? At least then it would be locked behind CC, which to me would make sense for a book that literally summons full moons on demand. then would be way less useful. Why would craft it when you can have full moons for free 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Darks Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 So far I am in love with this refresh, it's all I've wanted for Wickerbottom. More interesting books, Full immunity to sleeping, And a way to keep her books infinite! Great job Klei! Although so far, Mandrakes still make her fall asleep upon cooking/eating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skile Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Terra B Welch said: What if the Lunar Grimoire required the upgraded celestial orb for her to craft but otherwise kept the same recipe? At least then it would be locked behind CC, which to me would make sense for a book that literally summons full moons on demand. from it's examination quote it seems to be related to archives, so maybe lock it behind them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell_winters Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) I looked through the books and their powers. While the new abilities are cool, I found the crafting cost a bit too cheap. Like 2 moon rocks for the full moon book. Isn't that too little? So it feels like I'm not playing an actual character, but rather a walking cheat console. Besides, rain and full moon being so cheap isn't a good idea because griefers may easily abuse them to annoy Woodie and WX. Besides, remove autotarget from friendly grumble bees. There is another issue of them becoming aggressive when you log out and come back. Edited July 14, 2022 by maxwell_winters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra B Welch Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: then would be way less useful. Why would craft it when you can have full moons for free I feel the other way around, why have the threat of moonstorms when you can spam wicker's moon book. Edited July 14, 2022 by Terra B Welch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Terra B Welch said: I feel the other way around, why have the threat of moonstorms when you can spam wicker's moon book. Because the book requires one of your 15 inventory slots, requires you to go somewhere every few days to replace it, and requires materials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrueStickman Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (poorly cropped, ik) 2 7 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Terra B Welch said: I feel the other way around, why have the threat of moonstorms when you can spam wicker's moon book. if you base in the oasis you wont suffer from moonstorms and the utility of that book shines in early to have access to more glommers, farm were pigs on demand, have light for boss fights, make woodie transformation last longer, etc after CC you rather activate the storm so you forget about the book or have enough star callers, krampus sacks, etc so you dont need full moons outside of niche things or being lazy to care about having light sources 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetulantPansy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, splorange said: 2. having the first item that can summon rain be exclusive to wicker kinda sucks, the presence of rain is very important in a lot of situations and having control over it being locked behind wicker feels bad. maybe a new rain flute item? idk Can't you use the telelocater staff to start rain already? I guess you can't stop the rain but imo stopping the rain isn't nearly as important as starting it - that capability already exists. (on top of trapping an angry mossling and forcing it to lightning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonboooorn Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, HugoM said: Lunar Grimoire Man, she can summon full moon as she pleases now? Wagstaff be simpin for her now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiliano Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Klei, Wortox has a history with the Krampus. Please think of something involving this! Higher evil rate and higher chance of calling Krampus? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faintly Macabre Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, PetulantPansy said: Can't you use the telelocater staff to start rain already? I guess you can't stop the rain but imo stopping the rain isn't nearly as important as starting it - that capability already exists. (on top of trapping an angry mossling and forcing it to lightning). The cost of keeping the rain going with tele sticks is huge. It's incredibly annoying and not really worth the trouble. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, HugoM said: Walter will no longer be knocked off of Woby if the damage taken is light. Too many light hits received in a short period of time will knock Walter off of Woby. This right here is the stuff of dreams thanks alot! 1 hour ago, HugoM said: Walter will no longer draw the attention of nearby monsters when attacking with Poop Pellets. Really love this change as well but could freeze, slowdown, and cursed rounds also get another look? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2mk Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Castiliano said: Klei, Wortox has a history with the Krampus. Please think of something involving this! Higher evil rate and higher chance of calling Krampus? eating souls spawns krampus lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetulantPansy Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, Dragonboooorn said: So uh it seems this "rework" has in store only new books... I guess I'll just craft as much as I need em books and just switch to Maxwell. Sorry, but this update does not make me wanna play her unlike WX78 and Wolfgang updates Each survivor has their own appeal. If everything in the beta sticks, wicker will be the only survivor to have the ability to have loyal fighters any time of the day without also suffering the penalties of being a monster. I wouldn't take that lightly as she would now have serious fighting capabilities on top of these other more niche powers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep61 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 the rain book is amazing , i don't get the beef(alo) on it , natural rain still happens, finally a manual way to get rid of the already annoying frog rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Really love this change as well but could freeze, slowdown, and cursed rounds also get another look? Forum users when Walter's slingshot does not oneshot all enemies and he can not propel himself out of it to fast travel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Scrimbles said: So... wait, all Wicker got was more books? The problem with Wicker was that she had no interesting mechanics to herself, she had craftable books sure, but they never felt core to her character. This is like, the exact joke scenario I have been talking about for months. If the books are more useful in day to day gameplay I feel like it's the perfect way to expand on her in my opinion. 1 minute ago, Cheggf said: Forum users when Walter's slingshot does not oneshot all enemies and he can not propel himself out of it to fast travel. Let me ask you this why did you assume i wanted a damage increase? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohan Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 I love how reading the light shaft books in the caves creates an earth quake, really awesome attention to detail. As one of only like 5 (if even that) wicker mains on the forums lol im really happy with this refresh, all things considered. 1 hour ago, HowlVoid said: Best refresh menu animation ever. My queen…So cool. looking forward to her refresh skinset. It better include a skin for her book cabinet! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Hyuyu said: Time for people to say wortox op again Wortox OP. And that is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, Cheggf said: Because the book requires one of your 15 inventory slots, requires you to go somewhere every few days to replace it, and requires materials. Or you could make 2-3 books and just put them back into the bookcase after each use to repair them for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faintly Macabre Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Strongly feel that Maxwell should be barred from using some or all of these new books. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhyom Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 It happened again 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skile Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said: Or you could make 2-3 books and just put them back into the bookcase after each use to repair them for free. it does that? amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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