BluesyBuesy Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Hey there, Starverinos! I've got a fresh solo Bee Queen speedrun for ya: As usual, here is a timestamp to the fight if you want to skip ahead: https://youtu.be/rbYyUFe3FvA?t=2612 First off, I want to say that the Bee Queen is an insanely fun battle. Major props and potato cup trophies to the devs who designed her! I haven't had much time in the past few weeks, so it's taken longer than I would have liked to get a decent run, especially with Klei changing up the mechanics. Originally I was using a flingomatic and a torch -- quick-swapping to the torch to smack the Queen with fire, and using her ignited body to set off the flingomatic. It was a very tough fight, but still feasible. That is, until Klei introduced the trail of honey. The honey drastically hinders movement speed, so it becomes extremely difficult to maneuver around the Queen during the last two stages when the grumble bees are triggered hardcore, or at least it's extremely difficult solo, in the early game, without speedboosting ruins or winter gear (or even the timeless strat of using star caller's staffs to summon dwarf stars for an endless barrage of snowballs from flingomatics). The new method I came up with probably seems a bit esoteric, but I've been familiar with the mechanics behind the strategy for a while because I'm addicted to megabases, so I've built several bee enclosures over the years. If you aren't aware, bee enclosures are tricky because when bees are totally enclosed in walls, they pass right through them as if they weren't even there. But if you open up a single exit for the bees, they will then honor the physicality of the walls and prefer to use the exit. With this fact, you can manipulate the movement of bees in useful and hilarious ways. I whipped up a photorealistic drawing in ms paint to explain more clearly: I'm not sure if the fight looks easy, but it's still decently challenging controlling the flow of bees, the position of the Queen, etc. Plus I'm not sure how applicable this method would be for a team of players, since controlling who the Queen and grumble bees are aggroed on might be confusing; it'd probably be better to just forego the walls since it's an easy team fight anyway. So yeah, pls no remove devs, this is an interesting strat.. but if you are tempted to snip away cheese, there are far cheesier methods, a few of which I've compiled into a separate video: Thanks for reading! Enjoy the speedrun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verm1ll1on Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I'm a bit jelly of how pro you are. Awesome job, dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanFridge Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just realised the irony of your profile pic being Wolfgang's ghost. Anyways, I really like how you did this. On a server we did, we applied a same strategy for the Moonbase event. Never knew this worked too. Props for creativity and your rediculous speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1b3r0n Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Great job, like always. Your speedruns are amazing Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedChris Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I was watching the twitter video. Using the telestaff is kind of a waste. You can just type /rescue in the chat to be brought back to land. Just a helpful tip for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellimarual Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 You thwart the grumble bees by making them go through airport security check in. And just in time for the holidays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreanWaffles Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Stop being such a god You're making the rest of us look bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochilo Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Ez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLERMZ Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Great Job Joesh. A lot of people were really looking foward for ways to kill Bee Queen Solo and you came up with some sick strats. Nice job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduward Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 dont patch please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cezarica Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Wow. Awesome speed runs as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tarunio Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 3 hours ago, eduward said: dont patch please please dont patch, bee queen is hard enough, and people want to solo this game qwq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuedeAdodooedoe Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 15 hours ago, KoreanWaffles said: Stop being such a god You're making the rest of us look bad This is good for the devs to figure out ways to git rid of exploits, if you ask me. Just make bees or at least the grumble ones not follow wall, gate or fence paths and this method is no longer viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesyBuesy Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 4 hours ago, EuedeAdodooedoe said: This is good for the devs to figure out ways to git rid of exploits, if you ask me. Just make bees or at least the grumble ones not follow wall, gate or fence paths and this method is no longer viable. Yeah, you could nullify this strat, but it's only really viable for solo fights, and there are other methods that are pure cheese, so getting rid of the fences in particular makes little sense. I mean, I remember back in the day the dragonfly walls strat was lauded even by some devs, but there was no way for the lavae minions to get to you, so literally the only thing you had to do was hold down attack; this one at least requires careful design, split attention between minions and boss and controlling the flow of minions, fighting of minions as they come around, spawning of more minions when there are less than 8 or if too much distance is created, etc. If this method is such cheese, it's at least as challenging as holding F with a team of players. But if they get rid of this method, then fine. There are plenty more to choose from. The flingomatic strat I showed in in the other video at least looks impressive. I just like this one the most because I think it's interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mday Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I like my Df strat too. Getting 2 pig to the desert require some skills too, surprisingly to say. But they fixed it anyway. #Klei #NOFUNALLOWED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I think the biggest issue with Queen Bee is that she doesn't really give much in return. Renewable honeycombs, jellybeans are ok but I wouldn't fight her for them tbh, and the Queen Hat is nifty but not the drop you'd expect from this kind of a boss. Nonetheless I enjoyed seeing you kill it like this. It's a strat I'd call clever more than cheesing(which also requires some effort so that's good in my book), and it was pretty fun to see you handle the queen itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathem99 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 15 hours ago, BluesyBuesy said: Yeah, you could nullify this strat, but it's only really viable for solo fights, and there are other methods that are pure cheese, so getting rid of the fences in particular makes little sense. I mean, I remember back in the day the dragonfly walls strat was lauded even by some devs, but there was no way for the lavae minions to get to you, so literally the only thing you had to do was hold down attack; this one at least requires careful design, split attention between minions and boss and controlling the flow of minions, fighting of minions as they come around, spawning of more minions when there are less than 8 or if too much distance is created, etc. If this method is such cheese, it's at least as challenging as holding F with a team of players. But if they get rid of this method, then fine. There are plenty more to choose from. The flingomatic strat I showed in in the other video at least looks impressive. I just like this one the most because I think it's interesting. The flingomatic method was very effective with Wes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochilo Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I'm consuming your YT channel like crazy. Now I know how a DS pro looks like. Damn. That Wes Endless Bosses run is amazing. Totally subscribed, amazing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rily Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Awesome, the use of fences is pretty clever, I like how some grumble bees get stuck in the fences, they are like: "what do I do!? protect the queen!... left!, right!, left!, right! [their brains overheats]" your youtube channel should be in a link in the Don't starve and Don't starve together startup screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTR Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Amazing achievement. I admire people that always find new strategies and execute them perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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