Abi.m Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I dont understand the need for a sulfur geyser. The production of sulfur ingame from Sour Gas Boiler (SGB) is correct but in IRL it is also a byproduct of crude oil refining to petrol. Not everyone ingame wants to build a SGB in every colony, so petroleum route should have sulfur production. Also sulfur is also found near volcanoes. That should have been a feature as well. Lava solidifying to a composite tile of igneous and sulfur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinhPham Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I don't think they will offer a lot of sulfur per geyser, just enough to power the sugar rocket. Edit : Agree with the petroleum route, sinceĀ the oil refinery deletes 50% of the oil mass, i think it is ok to have some sulfur as a byproduct of the refinery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Adding sulfur geyser is the easiest solution to make it renewable without sour gas boiler. Tweaking existing production chains before going on holiday break is a risky move as introducing new bugs or breaking the balance would leave far more people upset than the lack of renewable sulfur already does. Consider this as a temporary fix before looking for a proper integration of sulfur into colony life cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Nothing wrong with having a natural source of sulfur. It`s basically a sulfur volcano wich makes sense. Works for the ONI world where each geyser produces only one type of resource. They could add another source through the oil refinery as well but for now it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilcat19xx Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I commented in a wrong section, that is why edited my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Still no Plutonium-Geysir in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniDeathStar Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Is it possible to get your hands on fullerene in the current build without spawning fullerene comets in sandbox mode? How do you make supercoolant for stuff like sour gas boilers otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khullag Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 cmon, do you want to have a geyser for everything? we have a cool process of getting sulfur through SGB an you want to dumb it down to a geyser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 gating sulphur behind one of the most mechanically complex builds in the game isn't great for new players. A geyser is necessary. It's ok if the geyser is rare, though. (edit: or a critter morph that poops sulphur. Or some other mechanism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboking Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 21 hours ago, Abi.m said: Also sulfur is also found near volcanoes. That should have been a feature as well. Lava solidifying to a composite tile of igneous and sulfur. I could get behind lava rocks being run through the rock crusher to produce sulfur and igneous rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Add back in magma volcanoes, but have them spit out 1600C sulfur gas as well. Let's see the new players squirm (and boil). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRup Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 So now we might as well stop accidentally dripping crude on hot abyssalite and then cooling it down with an AETN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 9:07 AM, MinhPham said: I don't think they will offer a lot of sulfur per geyser, just enough to power the sugar rocket. Edit : Agree with the petroleum route, sinceĀ the oil refinery deletes 50% of the oil mass, i think it is ok to have some sulfur as a byproduct of the refinery. I absolutely agree that sulfur should be a biproduct of the refinery. That would preserve the mass in the game. Too bad we didnt post this earlier.:/ Ā Sidenote: it is not 50%, since there are also 90g/s of NG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 The sulfur geyser is too far away to be of any use. Late game food is trivial and usually completely sustainable through ranching. The in game window for the need of sulfur is pretty small unless they use it in some other process later. Ā Iād rather have a guaranteed chlorine/natural gas geyser.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, 0xFADE said: The sulfur geyser is too far away to be of any use. Late game food is trivial and usually completely sustainable through ranching. The in game window for the need of sulfur is pretty small unless they use it in some other process later. Ā Iād rather have a guaranteed chlorine/natural gas geyser.Ā I would expect the sulfur geyser to be moved to another planetoid in the long run anyway. Otherwise the swamp biome would be quite a joke: water geyser enough po2 for ages enough sand to clean po2 critters who increase your food drastically free food for the critters Then we only need a copper ore volcano to also get free energy.^^ Most likely things will spread out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith515 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, blash365 said: Then we only need a copper ore volcano to also get free energy.^^ There's several minor volcanoes to feed hatches with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sith515 said: There's several minor volcanoes to feed hatches with. There are no hatches on the swamp start planet. I was referring to the plug slugs. The next obviously not sustainable thing on the first planetoid.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natanstarke Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Oh heck yes we need! More than one even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 You need sulfur to produce sucrose. And that you dont only need to power a sugar engine, but also to make certain food.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I'm saying the geyser is too far away, as in it isn't on the starter location or the teleport location(which sort of is the same location in that you can transfer things between them without rockets) or even the next closest location.Ā You don't need sulfur for food by that point in the game.Ā Food needs to be solved way before you get to those locations and resolved as you expand.Ā Maybe for rockets but isn't co2 better than sugar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Considering how much sulfur there is on the swamp start, is the geyser being far away a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 hours ago, 0xFADE said: Maybe for rockets but isn't co2 better than sugar? Currently it is. Gives more range and the extra module the sugar allows is needed for the oxydizer anyway. But we don`t hav everything implemented yet. Maybe there are other uses for sulfur or sucrose planned which would make the geyser worthwhile in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melquiades Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 8:03 AM, babba said: Still no Plutonium-Geysir in the game Plutonium occurs naturally as a decay product, there are no relevant deposits of it in nature. People need to craft it if they want to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbluep Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 If it occured naturally as a decay product; then there would be deposits of it. It's natural occurence is trace amounts in uranium ore; as uranium sometimes irradiates itself into plutonium. It's naturally occuring but not a decay product; like everything after Uranium. Small amount of sulfur to keep a few critters going or to occasionally power a rocket is nice I think; until you get your sour gas boiler running. As long as it's not powerful I'm fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 12:40 PM, 0xFADE said: I'm saying the geyser is too far away, as in it isn't on the starter location or the teleport location Silly me for not checking. It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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