cpy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Ok so what would be an absolute hardest map possible to play on? Aridio? With geodormant/lava channels almost no water geysers or something? I'm playing aridio and i'm having too much fun in it and i selected frozen core/geodormant/metal rich. No I do not use frozen core as cooling Also charity pod is turned off. When you turn off charity pod, maps really get distinct flavor and you don't have everything on every map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Oasis is a fair bit harder than aridio. But I also find it less interesting (sand for days) Aridio is 2nd most challenging. Traits, depends on your point of view. Geo dormant, metal poor, maybe magma channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I agree, Oasis is hard to get started. Volcanea can be an easy start, but a very hard end game Spoiler I can't use a nat gas geyser (bottom) because by time I researched insulation, it was already well over 1000c in there and full of phosphorus gas. A biome to my right has turned into igneous rock because of magma melting everything. A giant boulder to my right is 1200c obsidian. I haven't been able to find oil yet, so steel is my best material and it doesn't come close to dealing with the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cblack Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 This is the hardest seed I've found on the seed browser. However, one of the cool steam geysers is relatively accessible, so it's probably not extremely bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmilohill Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Badlands. It's not that it is difficult, but it's so boring I don't have the stamina to care enough to get a base to survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONIfreak Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, KittenIsAGeek said: I agree, Oasis is hard to get started. Volcanea can be an easy start, but a very hard end game Reveal hidden contents I can't use a nat gas geyser (bottom) because by time I researched insulation, it was already well over 1000c in there and full of phosphorus gas. A biome to my right has turned into igneous rock because of magma melting everything. A giant boulder to my right is 1200c obsidian. I haven't been able to find oil yet, so steel is my best material and it doesn't come close to dealing with the heat. Lol i have the same problem with nat gas on oasis. Plus i have liquid phosphorus in there and trying to find way to cool it down on this god forsaken map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebrait Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, avc15 said: Oasis is a fair bit harder than aridio. But I also find it less interesting (sand for days) Aridio is 2nd most challenging. Traits, depends on your point of view. Geo dormant, metal poor, maybe magma channels. The Geyser too! a slush made arido/oasis so much easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpy Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 My aridio map have 3 salt geysers, kinda ez lol. I play random seed without browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafara Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 hardest asteroid ? anywhere without Algae , Iron , Reed Fiber , Slime , Gold. my dupes hospitalize more than 10 times trying to insulated 80 C hot sand without Atmo suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurve Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 You'll need to turn to mods if you want anything genuinely challenging. I have a mod, Vesuvia, that's Volcanea without abyssalite: https://github.com/facepalm/oni-extreme-worlds Spoiler I can also heartily recommend Pholith's Emptera mod (it's on Steam), which gives you the starting biome and that's about it. Spoiler The first is a chaotic scramble to secure resources before the heat does, the second is a forced march to early-game sustainability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpy Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 What's that cryoth map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurve Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 It's meant to be a very cold map, much colder than Rime. Almost entirely ice of various kinds with flecks of stone. Liquid pockets of methane, hydrogen, etc everywhere, so power's abundant but you'll want to keep heat from escaping your base or else everything will melt. I started with it first, but then I did Vesuvia as a gimmick to test getting rid of abyssalite, only that turned out to be survivable and fun, so I just haven't gotten back to the cold yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pholith Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Oh, it gives me ideas for a new mod that. It's true that my Emptera mod is difficult but I made sure to make it accessible and playable, a map with only extreme temperatures doesn't exist yet, it doesn't bother anyone if I take the idea for a new hardcore maps mod ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenologist Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/21/2019 at 8:27 AM, bmilohill said: Badlands. It's not that it is difficult, but it's so boring I don't have the stamina to care enough to get a base to survive Same. It's too boring. I could ranch stone hatches, but i'm tired of waiting for the skill points to make a rancher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLW Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/21/2019 at 7:27 AM, bmilohill said: Badlands. It's not that it is difficult, but it's so boring I don't have the stamina to care enough to get a base to survive Currently playing oasis... haven't found it difficult, just annoying. You want to get hatches up soonish, but ranching is a) tedious until you get automation and b) fps-death inducing. Vacuum-wall off the starting biome fairly soon... helps a lot. With the exception of plants most things survive just fine up to ~70C. If you have to, off at the extreme edges of the map tends to be cool areas. If your main area gets too warm you can e.g. move your farms to one of them (and again vacuum-wall it off). I actually rather like oasis, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONIfreak Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, TLW said: Currently playing oasis... haven't found it difficult, just annoying. You want to get hatches up soonish, but ranching is a) tedious until you get automation and b) fps-death inducing. Vacuum-wall off the starting biome fairly soon... helps a lot. With the exception of plants most things survive just fine up to ~70C. If you have to, off at the extreme edges of the map tends to be cool areas. If your main area gets too warm you can e.g. move your farms to one of them (and again vacuum-wall it off). I actually rather like oasis, all things considered. Oasis is like "you have to know what you are doing" especially due to heat management. No ice biomes meaning no wolframite so no tungsten ( useful of tameing volcanos), lots of hot areas in random places ( heat overlay is your friend and careful breaking abyssalite), farms needs extra cooling etc. It is doable though ( i play on it for 1800+ cycles). I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerosene Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I think it's Oasisse with geodormant, volcanoes, and no good traits or good geysers. Metal poor is only a small reduction in metals, it's not very noticable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemainaNyx Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 If you want a challenge, do a playthrough trying to get every achievement. I did it on Oasisse and it definitely changed how I played. Not being able to use coal or wood burners early made it so I had almost no oxygen for the first 100 cycles. Can't plant anything so you have to deal with wild growing oxyferns which aren't good at making oxygen or removing carbon dioxide. Gotta risk heat stroke to get to wild growing plants outside of the starting biome. After getting Locavore and Carnivore it becomes much easier, but it's quite a challenge for the beginning of the game 42 minutes ago, kerosene said: I think it's Oasisse with geodormant, volcanoes, and no good traits or good geysers. Metal poor is only a small reduction in metals, it's not very noticable. Probably add in Magma channels or something for extra heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMaster13 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The frozen core trait actually is really annoying for geysers. It seems like half of your geysers will spawn down there, making it take far longer to find all of them and slowing down your mid-game quite a bit. It's turned me off of that trait. Though if you're looking for a challenge, that plus geodormant will mean a lot fewer geysers to rely on earlier on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loscil2 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 8/21/2019 at 9:12 AM, cblack said: This is the hardest seed I've found on the seed browser. However, one of the cool steam geysers is relatively accessible, so it's probably not extremely bad. I like that it doesn't have any water input except for the steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutineer Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I am playing Ardio, all max difficulty, geodormant, metals poor and small boulders. At turn 150 I get to place I usually get at Turn 50. It forced to use thinks like Ice Makers, Ice fans, water cooler which I never feel need to use before. Forced me to Use 30C water to delete heat by cooling Ice Makers By Granite pipes and then feed Oxygen ferns. Basically, heat water from 30 to 35C and then feed to fern. Even this small deletion is enough to cool base in general when running two icemakers. My conclusion, Ardio probably most difficult to start, Oasis most difficult all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpy Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 I guess only custom maps can be hard after you played game for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpy Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 1:21 PM, Lurve said: It's meant to be a very cold map, much colder than Rime. Almost entirely ice of various kinds with flecks of stone. Liquid pockets of methane, hydrogen, etc everywhere, so power's abundant but you'll want to keep heat from escaping your base or else everything will melt. I started with it first, but then I did Vesuvia as a gimmick to test getting rid of abyssalite, only that turned out to be survivable and fun, so I just haven't gotten back to the cold yet. I can't find map like that anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcinW Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I love playing Oasisse with Mineral Poor and Volcanoes traits. I got trouble figuring out if I like more Geodormant or Geoactive. Second one will give you more Geysers and on this map it means more heat provided by each one... but it also means more probability of finding good one. On my last play I had water 30°C and carbon dioxide -55°C just right to my base, which made a game a little less challenging. And what do you think about magma channels? Do they add much heat to the map? Which is worse magma channels or Volcanoes? Or should I always use them both for bigger challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrate Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I had nice gameplay with old mod "Absolute Zero" and "Lights Out". -170C Cold outside of starting biome. All live forms are freeze to death, the only source of light are bugs. Oil are frozen, natural gas goes too cold even with insulating pipes, so you have to build infrastructure with light, controlling temperature. Animal eggs still spawn but die quickly. With late patches starting biome is no more, so that king of game are wasted. Anyway, I don't think it's extremely difficult, while there are no diseases and overheating, but at least you need all that power, lights and even water boilers. On 8/22/2019 at 2:36 AM, Lurve said: https://github.com/facepalm/oni-extreme-worlds Doesn't work or I installing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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