Developer Ipsquiggle Posted February 26, 2019 Developer Share Posted February 26, 2019 Red alert no longer prevents Duplicants from catching their breath (They will however, hold it for longer than usual) Dupes in Red Alert will get the correct "holding breath" face when holding their breath Can now set emergency priority with the '0' key the same way the other number keys set normal priorities. Fix Filtered Output Pipe icon on the plumbing overlay Fix liquid/gas input incorrectly updating liquid flow if the entire mass was consumed Fix crashed caused by Errand time reporting Cleaned up which systems were responsible for Red Alert from Emergency Priority errands. Now it's controlled directly from the building's priority, so setting the building priority will immediately toggle Red Alert on or off, regardless of whether there is an active chore. This makes it more consistent in all cases and improves the feedback of toggling the building's priority. Buildings and other objects with emergency priority now have a "!!" status item visible in the main game view If a building was only temporarily prioritizable (e.g. because of a Repair errand), it will stop causing Red Alert when that errand is finished. Several temperature and mass related crashes were actually recoverable, so just put a warning in the output log and keep running the game. Fix a crash then the Med Bed is set to emergency priority Duplicants are allowed to remain in a med bed during Red Alert Fix the priority numbers on the Minion Todo List being off by one. View full update 19 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastiangperez Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 First time loading a savegame , took time , but , during the game , loading previous savefile , took an eternity ... Priorities is still a mess, none cares the 9th priorities , besides i have ALL at 5 .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Trueba Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sebastiangperez said: Priorities is still a mess I do not understand why there are people around the forum who complain about priorities. I think they work pretty well and it's the part I like most about the game, that if you do everything right and you have everything well configured, you can leave orders for everyone and go to the bathroom, to the supermarket or for some food at the kitchen and game will continue to work perfectly without you. I left the game alone for hours and when I return all are built, the floor is cleaned and the base has continued without any problems of food, oxygen or stress. Edited February 27, 2019 by Mr.Trueba 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GemeinerJack Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Most people have like max priorities on dupes for building for example and than they are wondering why the prio 1 stuff gets build before the prio 9 algea terrarium gets supplied... *shrug* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Trueba Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, GemeinerJack said: Most people have like max priorities on dupes for building for example and than they are wondering why the prio 1 stuff gets build before the prio 9 algea terrarium gets supplied... *shrug* That's the problem. Most people think that the only priorities are 1 to 9, but also exist the build, storage, tidy, etc. priorities. If you can find an equilibrium, the game runs very smoothly and most of the things are built at the moment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Not quite. I have lev 6 priorities for essential stuff (food production,forge, kiln, and some storage), and 6 for building..and 1- to 3 for automation stuff. If i go to 9 or for an emergency building tile... i stay between 50 - 200 seconds for the work to be done, even if the resources for the tile is right next to the tile, or are dupe that finish a job next to the emergency build tile. All my priorities are to default (build, care...etc) to my all dupes. The problem is that dupes pick a job regarding availability instead of range from the job and then availability. I have dupe running from my base to make an emergency sweep, when another dupe finish the job 1 second later a make that command just next to the emergency sweep. In my vision if emergency task is activated the closest dupe from that job abandon the previous job and make that emergency job until is finish, then resume the previous list. If not that option will be useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXponentia Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, tzionut said: snip There's an option to prioritize based on distance over the hidden heirarchy in the priority options in the top right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melquiades Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Ipsquiggle said: Red alert no longer prevents Duplicants from catching their breath (They will however, hold it for longer than usual) View full update Totally forgot to post that xD Thank you! BTW, auto-sweepers not grabbing anything, can it be fixed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 The sweeper wont work issue is already known. The are investigating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, SharraShimada said: The sweeper wont work issue is already known. The are investigating it. When the status of both of the posted bug reports is still : " Status: Pending This issue has not been confirmed by a developer yet. " I think it's reasonable to ask directly There are bug reports from 18 months ago that are already known by the devs, doesn't mean they're actively working on fixing them right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: When the status of both of the posted bug reports is still : " Status: Pending This issue has not been confirmed by a developer yet. " I think it's reasonable to ask directly There are bug reports from 18 months ago that are already known by the devs, doesn't mean they're actively working on fixing them right now. IMO, sweepers not working should be a high priority to fix. I can accept that for instance the steam turbine issues are lower priority, but conveyor and automation are a large part of the game. Not able to use them is missing out on a large part of the game. I effectively cannot play the game without the sweeper working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just now, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: IMO, sweepers not working should be a high priority to fix. I can accept that for instance the steam turbine issues are lower priority, but conveyor and automation are a large part of the game. Not able to use them is missing out on a large part of the game. I effectively cannot play the game without the sweeper working! I'd say everybody values different bugs/exploits at different priorities - depending on playstyle most likely. Personally I nearly sacked the game off altogether when it took so long to fix the animation bug on bunker doors, but hey - 5 months later it was finally fixed Sometimes a seemingly trivial bug that seems like it should be so simple to fix, can quite possibly be a deep rooted nightmare for the devs. I ***** and whine like the best of them when something frustrating plagues my bases (#ruinsdeletionwhen?) but it's worth considering that what's maybe high priority for us is really not much of a consideration in the development process. Also, don't forget - one persons exploit is another persons feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: I'd say everybody values different bugs/exploits at different priorities - depending on playstyle most likely. Personally I nearly sacked the game off altogether when it took so long to fix the animation bug on bunker doors, but hey - 5 months later it was finally fixed Sometimes a seemingly trivial bug that seems like it should be so simple to fix, can quite possibly be a deep rooted nightmare for the devs. I ***** and whine like the best of them when something frustrating plagues my bases (#ruinsdeletionwhen?) but it's worth considering that what's maybe high priority for us is really not much of a consideration in the development process. Also, don't forget - one persons exploit is another persons feature You do get what I was saying, right? I hardly call sweepers not working a feature . And yes, the bunker door animation bug was quite annoying, but they would close and open eventually, just with a delay you could alteast build around fairly easy. Sweepers not working, that is game breaking for me. I am at the point where I want to automate my base as much as possible, including the food storage and supply. That's gone out of the window now. Edited February 27, 2019 by ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophlette Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: including the food storage and supply Food storage already tends to bug without sweepers. My ration box sometimes show as empty but dupes won't put food in it. I have to uncheck all and then check again and dupes will put the food in it again. I've never considered automating the kitchen because of the food issues when stored and moved by sweepers. I tried a bit once and never done it again. I read the patchnotes everytime hoping to see it fixed but it never happens sadly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: You do get what I was saying, right? I hardly call sweepers not working a feature . And yes, the bunker door animation bug was quite annoying, but they would close and open eventually, just with a delay you could alteast build around fairly easy. Sweepers not working, that is game breaking for me. I am at the point where I want to automate my base as much as possible, including the food storage and supply. That's gone out of the window now. Yes, I do get what you're saying. Mine seem to work just fine from what I've observed. That being said, I do tend to save/load at least once every few hours. To show the point I was making - I currently don't care a single bit about this bug as I haven't experienced it yet Give me a week and i'll be waving my pitchfork along side you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: Yes, I do get what you're saying. Mine seem to work just fine from what I've observed. That being said, I do tend to save/load at least once every few hours. To show the point I was making - I currently don't care a single bit about this bug as I haven't experienced it yet Give me a week and i'll be waving my pitchfork along side you... Pitchforks? That's so dark age. Nowadays we laser them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Mr.Trueba said: That's the problem. Most people think that the only priorities are 1 to 9, but also exist the build, storage, tidy, etc. priorities. If you can find an equilibrium, the game runs very smoothly and most of the things are built at the moment. Klei has done a lot to make it obvious how prios work now. People just need to look at the info provided. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Christophlette said: Food storage already tends to bug without sweepers. My ration box sometimes show as empty but dupes won't put food in it. I have to uncheck all and then check again and dupes will put the food in it again. I've never considered automating the kitchen because of the food issues when stored and moved by sweepers. I tried a bit once and never done it again. I read the patchnotes everytime hoping to see it fixed but it never happens sadly that bug has been around for at least a year. You have to unclick the food, reclick and then they load it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) Why is putting something on a pedestal a "farm and supply" task ? (Not sure what it should/could be besides supply but at least not farming.^^) PS: My auto-sweepers seem to work without any problems since this update. So did someone encounter the "auto-sweeper bug" in the current version ? Sweeper stopped working again. Spoiler I have a valve set to full 4kg/s and I have 40 bristle berries in each row. Each row should consume 800kg water each cycle, so 3 rows should consume 2400kg or an equivalent of 4kg/s. => Plants consume an odd amount of liquid. (Not sure if it happened with this update but it didn´t happen before QoL MK2.) Edited February 27, 2019 by Lilalaunekuh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melquiades Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Lifegrow said: Yes, I do get what you're saying. Mine seem to work just fine from what I've observed. That being said, I do tend to save/load at least once every few hours. To show the point I was making - I currently don't care a single bit about this bug as I haven't experienced it yet Give me a week and i'll be waving my pitchfork along side you... Instead of reloading every couple of hours, i like leaving the game run unattended for a while and return to see what broke, or what can be improved... One time i returned and saw all my dupes dead because a sweeper didn't deliver coal to the power plant that was powering the oxygen production plant. I am not playing as much since the patch, i might be grabbing that pitchfork soon enough ._. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellshound38 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Yeah the sweeper bug is killing me.... My powerplant uses Slush geyser water to keep it cool, and then that water is sieved and cooled and used for berries. If I run the game for any amount of time over 30 minutes, the sweeper supplying the sieve stops working, the slush water stops, the powerplant overheats, and my food stops getting water.... Most annoying bug ever, especially since this is all vacuum isolated and my only fix is saving and loading over and over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cylandme Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Food is difficult? Thousands of free fish. Check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 16 hours ago, eXponentia said: There's an option to prioritize based on distance over the hidden heirarchy in the priority options in the top right. Oh there is?? I’ll have to find that. Seems like it should be that way by default. Regarding sweepers someone mentioned putting them on a timer to deactivate for a little while daily does fix them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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