TheKingofSquirrels Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 So, I thought the whole point of the Forge was to experiment with DST in a way that doesn't affect the core game. Cool. So you did the experiment...Now add it to the game. No? I just hate the fact that Klei only used the Forge items to just make skins. Surely, the Living Staff could have been an incredible addition to the game, as well as other items. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
clri Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The Forge was a fun event that added a lot of canon lore to the game, not just skins. I don't think the point of the Forge was to experiment with DST in the way of adding new things to the core game - there are a lot of mechanics in there that only really make sense and are balanced for an event like the Forge. (Imagine balancing even the Living Staff...) I'd personally keep the Forge and the game just as they are right now. Spoiler My pipe dream is to have the Forge as an always available gamemode unlockable when you beat the Ancient Fuelweaver (lore-wise it makes sense!). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicko Hog Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, TheKingofSquirrels said: Surely, the Living Staff could have been an incredible addition to the game, as well as other items. The Living Staff would be a balance nightmare no matter how you tried to handle it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The skins was the only reason I played the forge, I only played to get skins because they are so important for me. Also the game is just fine the way it is, I think all we need is more skins to be added for events like valtines, winter feast, and event skins Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyr0mrcow Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I thought that they did a pretty wonderful job with character balancing/traits in the Forge. Would really like to see some of that brought over to normal DST. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellby Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I've always had the feeling that we would see some content in the upcoming Hamlet DLC that would tie in with The Forge. Perhaps we could see the items in use there. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 iirc the "point" of the Forge was to do unique creative things that couldn't be done in the base game lest they ruin the balancing & systems already in place. It was separate so it didn't disrupt the base content. Now for clarification if I'm not mistaken the OP is referring to a comment made by a dev, which my own post is speaking of. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicko Hog Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Cellby said: I've always had the feeling that we would see some content in the upcoming Hamlet DLC that would tie in with The Forge. Perhaps we could see the items in use there. I'd love to see non-armored versions of the Forge mobs show up in Hamlet. They'd all fit the jungle theme pretty well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pruinae Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I see the forge the same way I see Ovewatch Junkenstein's revenge, it's an event that will come and go and I don't think there is anything wrong with that >.> I also think the "hiatus" between having the same event again is good so things will keep fresh in a way (Klei do kno da way) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zillvr Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I'm not speaking on behalf of Klei so I may be misinformed but the way I understood it, the Forge was the prototype for future sustainable events. Refer to: The Forge has Ended Thread If we really think about it, through The Forge they were able to build an event system from the ground up: adding new mechanics (player levels and level ups, rewards, character skills, buffs, abilities, etc.) adding new creatures (monsters with unique behaviors from each other) adding leaderboards which requires collecting and properly organizing and then displaying all the data (see The Forge Stats) adding event specific quests revamped the previously called Inventory into the Item Collection which an entirely new Menu. adding the simplest Cash Shop for event skins if you really want to have them. improving the player profile (portrait frames, profile icons) which is already in-game in vanilla DST. (to see, examine other players or yourself) adding drop bundles (classic, winter feast, pugna's chest, etc.) adding spools as event currency etc. There are probably a whole lot more that should be on that list, but these are the only ones off the top of my head. Ultimately, amassing all that knowledge and aiming for better events in the future, I think The Forge was a success. Despite some issues that arose during the event, I'm sure the devs have learned from them and that in itself will make succeeding events even better. They've probably also optimized a whole lot of the inner workings of DST that will improve future events. What was learned from The Forge will the groundwork of the next future events. Sources: Will the Forge Reopen (->"We plan to bring it back at some point..."), The Forge Extended Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino123 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The forge is clearly planned to reopen. We still can see forge stuff in the belongings part of curio cabinet. we'll be able to play it again. So the integration of the forge in DST would be useless - this kind of game is good as an annual event (with new monsters and accomplishments every year).but quite boring if always accessible. And i think that forge items are for the most part useless in DST. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinMark309 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Pyr0mrcow said: I thought that they did a pretty wonderful job with character balancing/traits in the Forge. Would really like to see some of that brought over to normal DST. Webber was trash... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 V2C once mentioned on a stream that the pvp aspect of the game is "not so good", that they were aware of it and had plans to eventually make changes. With these new events we may eventually get a forge-like type of pvp event, which would probably make more sense to keep all year round if you want to play that way. PVP in th current PVE type of game is kinda weird, and balancing the characters for it is what damaged some characters like woodie in first place. If we had both things separated in a way, perhaps character balancing would be easier. On a side note I do think some things of the forge should come to the base game, things like the staves animated missile effects won't damage balance in any way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clri Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, JustinMark309 said: Webber was trash... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinMark309 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, clri said: 5 hours ago, Pyr0mrcow said: I thought that they did a pretty wonderful job with character balancing/traits in the Forge. Would really like to see some of that brought over to normal DST. Webber was trash... Bottom of the list, bottom of the list, bottom for the list Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWatson Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I've played Woodie exclusively in Forge, however I seem to have been playing inadequately. I feel that playing my favourite character made me not reach my fullest potential as that character limited me from using my skills to the fullest extent. And so I conclude that Woodie was rubbish and it's not my fault that my teams keep losing because of me. If Woodie was not rubbish, then everybody would've realised how great of a player I am. Smh lol Sigh... Woodie is bad because he's bottom in the list: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fimmatek Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, JustinMark309 said: Webber was trash... Bottom of the list, bottom of the list, bottom for the list You misunderstood the meaning of those lists. Webber was part of the first 3 best speedrun teams. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlogy Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, JustinMark309 said: Webber was trash... Bottom of the list, bottom of the list, bottom for the list justin all you talk about is webber were talking about what the forge did right and wrong and all you contributed was "webber was trash" and as we keep telling you, he was in fact, not trash, he was actually the best darts dps in the game able to amass extreme amounts of damage, especially if paired with a wigfrid so please, TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN SPIDER BOY Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fus7 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 hours ago, JustinMark309 said: Webber was trash... Bottom of the list, bottom of the list, bottom for the list It's 2018 but he is still trolling. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Starlogy said: so please, TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN SPIDER BOy Rule #2 of the forums: Ignore JustinMark. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 On 10/01/2018 at 4:09 AM, SuperDavid said: The skins was the only reason I played the forge, I only played to get skins because they are so important for me. Also the game is just fine the way it is, I think all we need is more skins to be added for events like valtines, winter feast, and event skins Ew. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-991871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torauma Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 6:48 PM, minespatch said: Rule #2 of the forums: Ignore JustinMark. Please don't rip off my skin for this, but it's kinda silly how he moved to the steam discussions, yes it may be off topic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-992328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberry Shake Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I rather disliked the forge. Go on, kill me. The one thing that I found salvageable about the thing was Winona's sick mowhawk. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-992332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyXD Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 4:17 AM, JellyUltra said: I'd love to see non-armored versions of the Forge mobs show up in Hamlet. They'd all fit the jungle theme pretty well. Some of them fit in SW better, some Hamlet, however none really fit in the normal world On 1/11/2018 at 2:48 AM, minespatch said: Rule #2 of the forums: Ignore JustinMark. he got banneddd Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86296-missed-opportunity-with-forge-items/#findComment-992379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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