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[GLERMZ]

2 minutes ago, Dragonboooorn said:

I just dont like him in general. He eats poop and rot

Thats better

[_zwb]

2 minutes ago, Dragonboooorn said:

I just dont like him in general. He eats poop and rot

 

isnt debuff is like 15－20%? Its been awhile since I checked wiki

It's 10% in DST

[GLERMZ]

2 minutes ago, _zwb said:

If anything Wolfgang is the least balanced character in this game, you get 2x damage and speed boost for certain items without any notable downside. Yeah you can't move while changing form and maybe loses a bit more sanity but come on you have 2x just stay mighty all the time and kill everything in your way.

ZUG ZUG

Edited July 19, 2023 by GLERMZ

[Dragonboooorn]

9 minutes ago, _zwb said:

If anything Wolfgang is the least balanced character in this game, you get 2x damage and speed boost for certain items without any notable downside. Yeah you can't move while changing form and maybe loses a bit more sanity but come on you have 2x damage just stay mighty all the time and kill everything in your way.

Wanda have teleport to everywhere from anywhere and the best weapon with a whip range. She is good both at fight AND exploring, which is bones of DST gameplay.

Come to think of it, almost any character now is somewhat of OP with their refreshes and upcoming skill trees. Only Wes and Wilson is boring and weak. Wes is a joke character and Wilson... Well, Klei just hate him and dont even consider giving him character development at least trough new skills cuz #newbie_opinions_matter

Edited July 19, 2023 by Dragonboooorn

[Ardyn]

2 minutes ago, Dragonboooorn said:

Wanda have teleport to everywhere from anywhere and the best weapon with a whip range. She is good both at fight AND exploring, which is bones of DST gameplay.

Come to think of it, almost any character now is somewhat of OP with their refreshes and upcoming skill trees. Only Wes and Wilson is boring and weak. Wes is a joke character and Wilson... Well, Klei just hate him and dont even consider giving him character development at least trough new skills cuz #newbie_opinions_matter

wolfgang and wanda are op enough, they better not be more op. Or make other characters become as op as them, rather than weakening them, Just like weakening Woodie's weremoose form.

[Wardin25]

I am slightly dissapointed but its probably fair

[cybers2001]

13 minutes ago, _zwb said:

If anything Wolfgang is the least balanced character in this game, you get 2x damage and speed boost for certain items without any notable downside. Yeah you can't move while changing form and maybe loses a bit more sanity but come on you have 2x damage just stay mighty all the time and kill everything in your way.

And yet the strong man without perks has less dps than a fragile girl with a  pissed off cow and a dead sister.

[AveHortor]

Darn. One of Wormwood's best talents got nerfed after an 8 day wait.

[GLERMZ]

1 minute ago, Dragonboooorn said:

Wanda have teleport to everywhere from anywhere and the best weapon with a whip range. She is good both at fight AND exploring, which is bones of DST gameplay.

Come to think of it, almost any character now is somewhat of OP with their refreshes and upcoming skill trees. Only Wes and Wilson is boring and weak. Wes is a joke character and Wilson... Well, Klei just hate him and dont even consider giving him character development at least trough new skills cuz #newbie_opinions_matter

Exploring or Fast Travel? They are different things. Wanda is as good at exploring as the majority of characters until winter, and even in first winter each travel clock is one Tusk, so until you established a good ammount of clocks for fast travel is going to take more time than the average Joe and a lot of people in this forum will play in one world.
Best Weapon? Still less DPS than Wolfgang Darksword, must more prone to input lag because its slightly slower on the swing, and for you to have big damage you have to play with an average of 30HP. If you good you might get away with having one clock to get age back from a few hits, if you not as good 2, if tend to get hit a lot, 3, and this outside of Planar stuff, it gets even more ludicrious with only 80% armors. Thats all extra iventory slots  your clocks take which matters on balance. Clocks also get canceled if you use it and get hit. You also can't cancel damage stuff like Overheat, Freezing, Acid Rain with Jellybeans like every other character. Shall i continue ? Ah, if you get cought as Old Age without armor, you dead by 90% of creatures in DST.

As for your second point, every character in DS is OP because everything has 50% less HP and bosses have 3k health and only singleplayer mechanics. Wes in DS feels almost like Wolfgang in DST. You should see Wigfrids in DS, its hilarious

[Dragonboooorn]

3 minutes ago, Ardyn said:

wolfgang and wanda are op enough, they better not be more op. Or make other characters become as op as them, rather than weakening them, Just like weakening Woodie's weremoose form.

Wolfgang is OP only in combat. DST is also about exploring, the second core aspect of gameplay.

Wolfgang lacks exploring perks, and hes OG best combat chatacter back from old times yet was outshined by Wanda and Maxwell recently.

New perks clearly aint making him more OP, but let him be more effictive with new content. Planar damage is a non sence

[Catteflyterpill]

42 minutes ago, Dragonboooorn said:

ah yes, the character that were supposed to have troubles with healing now have passive regen.

very balanced in my opinion, very dont starve－ish

 

This feels like a critique from somebody who doesn't play Wormwood at all. The lack of healing options is most detrimental in a fight, and during that time getting 3 health over the course of a minute is going to do very little to help anybody. 

[A Pufferfish]

3 hours ago, V2C said:

• Halved the health regeneration guaranteed by the "The Weremoose II" skill.
• Decreased the physical damage dealt by Weremoose mastery’s smashing punch.

Not a fan of this change tbh, The health regen seemed fine from what i've seen, and the moose smash seemed fine as well, it seems completely unwarranted tbh

[Thieverpedia]

Bramble Trap Specialist is nice and all, but they still damage players not wearing a Bramble Husk. It's just too easy to forget to put one on and die to them. They feel too niche to use for the most part...unless they no longer harm players.

Edited July 20, 2023 by Thieverpedia

[Thalz]

Hello guys!

Loved some changes, others not so much, but i want to talk about a few things.

- The Lord of Fruitflys skill, I trully can't see the point. Spending a skill point to make the boss appears don't seems a smart move and the frendly fruit flys its really unnecessary when you already received a larger tending buff in the skill tree;

Could be repleaced by the petals generation skill, and like Glermz said, could come in a separated slot (like wilson's beard);

- Weremoose regen and damage there is no reason to nerf, considering that u fight without items and need 3 hits to get one stronger from it. When u choose a fighter build
you need to be rewarded to make this option worth it;

- Reduce even more the animation time of the compost wrap. It's expensive and would be great if could have the same animation time of eating a berry, making the combat
more fluid.

Thank you again guys! You are making our game trully great! 

[Ardyn]

1 minute ago, Dragonboooorn said:

Wolfgang is OP only in combat. DST is also about exploring, the second core aspect of gameplay.

Wolfgang lacks exploring perks, and hes OG best combat chatacter back from old times yet was outshined by Wanda and Maxwell recently.

New perks clearly aint making him more OP, but let him be more effictive with new content. Planar damage is a non sence

So why weaken woodie's weremoose form? Woodie is completely inferior to Wanda and Maxwell. 

[Dragonboooorn]

3 minutes ago, Catteflyterpill said:

This feels like a critique from somebody who doesn't play Wormwood at all. The lack of healing options is most detrimental in a fight, and during that time getting 3 health over the course of a minute is going to do very little to help anybody. 

he eats poop and thus deserve nerfs honestly

1 minute ago, Ardyn said:

So why weaken woodie's weremoose form? Woodie is completely inferior to Wanda and Maxwell. 

why ask me I aint making patches here. I quite liked Woodie gaming in beta

Edited July 19, 2023 by Dragonboooorn

[Dextops]

5 minutes ago, Dragonboooorn said:

Wolfgang is OP only in combat. DST is also about exploring, the second core aspect of gameplay.

Wolfgang lacks exploring perks, and hes OG best combat chatacter back from old times yet was outshined by Wanda and Maxwell recently.

New perks clearly aint making him more OP, but let him be more effictive with new content. Planar damage is a non sence

I agree with this a lot. People see big number and instantly think op when most of the game you aren’t fighting and there are different methods. There’s also the fact that there aren’t many bosses you’ll want to kill more than once and that bosses respawn once every 20 days. Damage isn’t everything and that’s all Wolfgang has.

Edited July 19, 2023 by Dextops

[mayotails]

2 minutes ago, Dragonboooorn said:

he eats poop and thus deserve nerfs honestly

he dont eat it tho he rubs it on him plants do need nutrition after all 

[Dragonboooorn]

6 minutes ago, GLERMZ said:

Exploring or Fast Travel? They are different things. Wanda is as good at exploring as the majority of characters until winter, and even in first winter each travel clock is one Tusk, so until you established a good ammount of clocks for fast travel is going to take more time than the average Joe and a lot of people in this forum will play in one world.
Best Weapon? Still less DPS than Wolfgang Darksword, must more prone to input lag because its slightly slower on the swing, and for you to have big damage you have to play with an average of 30HP. If you good you might get away with having one clock to get age back from a few hits, if you not as good 2, if tend to get hit a lot, 3, and this outside of Planar stuff, it gets even more ludicrious with only 80% armors. Thats all extra iventory slots  your clocks take which matters on balance. Clocks also get canceled if you use it and get hit. You also can't cancel damage stuff like Overheat, Freezing, Acid Rain with Jellybeans like every other character. Shall i continue ? Ah, if you get cought as Old Age without armor, you dead by 90% of creatures in DST.

As for your second point, every character in DS is OP because everything has 50% less HP and bosses have 3k health and only singleplayer mechanics. Wes in DS feels almost like Wolfgang in DST. You should see Wigfrids in DS, its hilarious

wanda propaganda detected 

[abrocator]

2 hours ago, Golden Daemon said:

i think its trying to differentiate between day time and dusk time ( since the sun is still shining during the dusk).

Dusk happens after sunset.

[Dragonboooorn]

Just now, mayotails said:

he dont eat it tho he rubs it on him plants do need nutrition after all 

he eats with his pooo covered hands

[mayotails]

1 minute ago, Dragonboooorn said:

he eats with his pooo covered hands

and when u think about it so does all the others i dont see them wash there hands 

 

[Dragonboooorn]

1 minute ago, mayotails said:

and when u think about it so does all the others i dont see them wash there hands 

 

I never pick up poop. I make others do it

[NNOUS]

2 hours ago, Copyafriend said:

and no, 17 damage is not a terrible amount, its about 5 damage per attack, so basically it went from on average being slightly better than darksword, to on average being about equal with darksword, slightly better to slightly worse

I agree, its just too cheap comparing darkswards with a goose idol. its fitting to be below darkswords, and for fight like df u might need more then 2. 

[mayotails]

1 minute ago, Dragonboooorn said:

nuh uh

u sed u get others doing it hence they sill eat poo of there hands therefore other character's still eat it