WhackE Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 So the Glass Cutter has the unique trait where it has more durability when attacking shadow creatures, some of you may not know this but the Moon Glass Axe has this exact same perk. Some of you might think this innocuous but I well, did the math. Both items cost moon glass, but the cutter costs 6 while the axe costs 3 this already makes the axe already more efficient in terms of cost, but I see you typing "the axe isn't even a weapon." well it actually has 34 damage, which is the same as a spear, and 200 durability(when attacking shadows) while the glass cutter has 68 damage and 150 durability(also when attacking shadows), and the total damage is 6800 for the moon glass axe and 10200 for the glass cutter but as I said before the axe is cheaper than the cutter so with 6 moon glass you could make two axes, bringing the total axe damage to 13600. So you would add 3400 damage for the same cost of moon glass, albeit 34 damage is less than 68 so it would apply slightly slower. So what this basically means if you only attack shadow creatures with axes instead of cutters you basically cheat the system. This is almost as bad as how they balance turf, eat your heart out, Zark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 I would consider them more cost effective but not necessarily a better weapon. I suppose characters with increased damage modifiers might get some use out of them as such, but as a Wormwood main I think I'll pass. Thanks for the info though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestix Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Umm... walking cane is even more "efficient". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaZoul Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 That's cool and all, but yeah, I could make a 1000 spears to fight Fuelweaver, but I don't cause their damage is poopoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0l0l0 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Same thing applies for punching really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aheguro Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 48 minutes ago, WhackE said: you basically cheat the system No one said you HAVE TO use the glass cutter lmao, anyway good info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, WhackE said: 34 damage is less than 68 so it would apply slightly slower. A little bit more then "slightly" : P Interesting observation though, since I never really thought about it. I never would really use a tool as a weapon, but it's neat to know it could be used as an emergency shadow weapon if you are truly desperate for something that's higher then base cane/fist damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroite Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Isnt there a cancel animation trick that would make it worth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, kuroite said: Isnt there a cancel animation trick that would make it worth ? If possible, you can do it with glass cutter too so it will still being stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Maxil20 said: I never would really use a tool as a weapon Flint axe is 80% as strong as a spear without requiring science so I use those when I'm very angry at whatever is in my path before I learned to not be dumb. But explicitly making tools for weapons when provided with alternatives is at the very least questionable... 40 minutes ago, kuroite said: Isnt there a cancel animation trick that would make it worth ? In DST, yes! You can kill shadows in half the time, making the glass axe as good as the glass cutter, and the glass cutter twice as good as that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 An axe-cellent observation. also, don't forget how the moonglass Axe only costs twigs, while the moonglass cutter takes boards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestix Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 By the way, it's "than", not "then". "Then" means something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 good observation tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim the Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said: An axe-cellent observation. I don't know if I should be mad or impressed with this pun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcGillacactus Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 With this logic doesn't that also make the characters fists more efficient than a thuelcite club? I understand the math and what you're coming from, but when i chose what weapons to use I go for most damage per amount of time, not just overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrimbles Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Don't even use a weapon, your fists do infinite damage and never run out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoysenSyrup Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Glass Cutter deals more damage over less time, meaning a quicker fight. While the axe may be theoretically better moon glass wise, I don't want to age 30 years fighting fuel weaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Grass Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I can already make like 16 glass cutters on 1 visit to the lunar island which I only use for niche scenarios please I don’t want to be more cost efficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Most of the times its about killing it faster, than being able ot kill it for longer (axe takes two times longer to kill aprox) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WainingWabbits Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Another fact similar to this, level 1 trees provide more wood per effort if you are digging the stumps as well.. level 1 : 5 axe swings + 1 shovel = 2 logs level 2 : 10 axe swings + 1 shovel = 3 logs + cones level 3 : 15 axe swings + 1 shovel = 4 logs + cones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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