Nightinggale Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gwido said: It would just be great to have a global information about the planning once arrived in the middle of the "release" month. As much as I agree it would be nice to know, I suspect the plan is to fix the release stopping bugs. Asking how long it will take to fix those would be like asking the police how long it will take to find a specific missing person. It's a task where people are working as hard as they can, but it's really hard to predict how long it will take. You can't say for certain if a bug takes an hour or several days to fix until you have investigated it and sometimes not until you have fixed it. The nature of bugs is that there is a giant element of unknown in it because if it was known, it wouldn't have been included in any release, not even a test branch patch release. 1 minute ago, Gwido said: Where do I ask for a "specific date" ? And where do I asked for the current bugged test version to be released as it is ? O_o You ask about a July release meaning you set up the date 31th of July as a "specific date" deadline. Granted you aren't demanding, but you are still implying you want a release despite knowing the game is still buggy. My point is that they know we want a release. In fact I suspect they want a release possibly even more than we do. Asking for deadlines when nobody knows the workload in finishing the release ends up as wanting to stress out the developers for failing another deadline. Since the release date is anyone's guess at this point, you can look at the test branch and the bug tracker. If you monitor the development there, you can get an idea about when the game will be ready for release. In this context I might add that just the other day the pipe temperatures bugged out and then people complained about the developers not testing their code enough. It's like the forum expects people at Klei to work 80 hours a day. Don't get me wrong. I too would love to have a released version of ONI and I too get annoyed with bugs (particularly the one I posted the day before yesterday about the algae habitat crashing the game if it detects any attempt at modding. It's holding my modding efforts back). However the forum these days makes me think of this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jady Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Nightinggale said: It's a task where people are working as hard as they can, but it's really hard to predict how long it will take. You can't say for certain if a bug takes an hour or several days to fix until you have investigated it and sometimes not until you have fixed it. Hi. If you could come work at software development companies and explain this to every manager at every job I've ever had, I'd be quite grateful. Thx.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, jady said: Hi. If you could come work at software development companies and explain this to every manager at every job I've ever had, I'd be quite grateful. Thx.:) Boss: when will you have the program ready? Engineer: 5 minutes after I have found the cause of the bug Boss: when will you find the cause of the bug? Engineer: I have no idea The answer turned out to be 3 days. There are way too many stories like that and sadly I can't do anything about it. It's however in the weak end of boss horror stories. It's nothing compared to being fired for not doing the assignment the boss forgot to tell the employee about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF99K Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Nightinggale said: Boss: when will you have the program ready? Engineer: 5 minutes after I have found the cause of the bug Boss: when will you find the cause of the bug? Engineer: I have no idea The answer turned out to be 3 days. There are way too many stories like that and sadly I can't do anything about it. It's however in the weak end of boss horror stories. It's nothing compared to being fired for not doing the assignment the boss forgot to tell the employee about. I've had this problem with both bosses, my mom, and random people online. Not just with coding stuff but with animations and art etc as well. Things are very good at breaking sometimes and you can't predict everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noa12390 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 coding and murphies law like each other which is never a good thing with bugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teambooster Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 klei where the launch upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroturtle Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, teambooster said: klei where the lunch upgrade Lunch upgrade was yesterday, didn't you see all the food tweaks in the patch notes? (sorry couldn't resist ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teambooster Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, teambooster said: klei where the lunch upgrade me: klei where the launch upgrade klei: Just now, Nitroturtle said: Lunch upgrade was yesterday, didn't you see all the food tweaks in the patch notes? (sorry couldn't resist ) but my game in steam doesn't update so you play the beta 7 minutes ago, Nitroturtle said: Lunch upgrade was yesterday, didn't you see all the food tweaks in the patch notes? (sorry couldn't resist ) how you play ONI on steam or on epic games launcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroturtle Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, teambooster said: but my game in steam doesn't update so you play the beta Yeah you got me there, I'm playing the beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcdejean Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I totally understand if the release needs to be delayed further to August. It seems there's likely still quite a number of backlogged bugs to work down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, paulcdejean said: It seems there's likely still quite a number of backlogged bugs to work down. Yeah there is a backlog to look into. However there is also the issue of newly discovered bugs, like the one I just found. For an official going out of early access, Klei likely need to have a test branch where people do crazy stuff for a while without finding new serious bugs. Even if the pipe layout is stupid (it made sense when I first crashed as in moving pipes), I think we can agree that no pipe layout should be allowed to crash the game. Now I assume the bug is fixed at some point and then the fix needs to be playtested for bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 It takes 90% of the time to do the first 90% and 90% of the time to do the last 10% If you’ve ever watched some quality woodworking they spend longer than you would think just sanding what looks like a finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaax Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 7:54 AM, teambooster said: klei where the launch upgrade Right now in the beta branch, and will be live when ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 19.07.2019 at 5:01 PM, teambooster said: klei where the launch upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teambooster Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Oxygen Not Included Launching July 30th! holy **** yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerViris Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 We would all Rather have a Better Game to play. A few more days isn't any problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlei Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just 1 question remains: Will sulfur have any use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOrange Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 But what time on the 30th of July? It's been the 30th for HOURS here in Australia. And OK, Griftlands is awesome, but dammit... Are we there yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, BlueOrange said: But what time on the 30th of July? It's been the 30th for HOURS here in Australia. And OK, Griftlands is awesome, but dammit... Are we there yet? They are in Canada, so they will use canadian time, not australian. Just because you aussies wont use proper clocks... I predict something between 16:00 and 23:00 central european time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slvrsrfr Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 pretty sure i'm in the same time zone, a few miles south. it's likely no sooner than 12 hrs from now. that'd be 6am for them, on the 30th. And i'm super eager.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOrange Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I knew that realistically, it would be the 31st by the time it reached the land of the future. But dammit, everyone else is whining, I figured I'd have a turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSugarFreeman Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 1:22 PM, MrBlei said: Just 1 question remains: Will sulfur have any use? Well from a quick glance at a random website I pulled up, it could probably be used for the production of rubber, fertilizer, sulfuric acid, silver polish, pesticides and herbicides, paper, food preservatives, detergent, cement and plaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkin Coaled Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 11 hours ago, BlueOrange said: It's been the 30th for HOURS here in Australia. Liar, you posted this when it was maybe the 30th at the date change line, still 29th in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slvrsrfr Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 i just woke up a bit ago for no real reason, here i am peering around in the forums. Sniffing for any clues. I am very excited for them. I hope it goes well. I hope they play it on strims thursday! Hint,Hint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOrange Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Darkin Coaled said: Liar, you posted this when it was maybe the 30th at the date change line, still 29th in Australia. Did not. It was 10am on the 30th. Is now 9:15pm on the 30th. I won't get the full version until the 31st, even though America will get it on the 30th. It's like how our simultaneous broadcast of Game of Thrones episodes happened on Monday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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