[Poll] On Food Sources

[GetNerfedOn]

everyone else talking about their favorite char and here i am polling for food opinions lmao

Anyways! vote freely and discuss in the comments!

[Dextops]

Bee boxes were and will forever be the best food source. Honey supremacy 

[Mike23Ua]

Where are the options for Beefalo & Catcoon? Meaty Stew is such a good dish to quickly fill up hunger.

[Jandri]

I'd say it's a bit too easy to turn monster meat into edible dishes with the crock pot, especially if you have a birdcage to turn your monster meat into eggs

[b l a n k]

I rely on hunts so much I would have to relearn the whole game if the feature was removed...

What being nomadic does to a mf

[Nogard78]

I don't really have a source of food that I relay on. I always have a full fridge from hound waves, something I pick up along the way and sometimes I use farms because they are fun. Also my entire base is under big trees so figs figs figs. 

As for balance I guess they could make some changes (hopefully without much lash out from community). Rework are fun. 

And about fun in coocking new and diverse non-meta food. I wish more people would try this. It is really fun. I remember playing Wortox back in a day and cooking barnicle linguinne(or however it is called) or playing as Warly, these were really fun times. Nowdays if I have some funky ingredments I might make something cool. 

Overall cooking in DST is fun but of courses could be better. 

[Nnumber3]

wish there was more hunting food animals, the only 1 is the koalephant (varg and ewesus don't really drop food) hunting is fun yes but after the 10th kill it gets boring as its the same thing every time, and koelphants spawn so much so that's what you're going to find mostly. be nice if there were more animals like a big No eyed deer that can use the fire attack in summer and the ice attack from the klaus fight, could drop gems and meat, maybe even a special antler that you could use as a axe and weapon, like the halberd from hamlet.

[JustAFlower]

As a Wormwood main, I rely only on cooked bananas.

[Nnumber3]

Love ocean fishing too, but i always need to find a excuse, like "im going to pearl" so i can fish on the way and while waiting for her to come out of her home.as its pitiful the amount of food it gives you compared to other sources. it's 1 of those rare times that a new way to get food is fully developed and engaging, just the amount of food needs to be tuned up, as freshwater fish and eels almost always beats it out, which is sad.

[Tranoze]

For food source, i have no clear primary source supply. I just eat whatever i found that grow nearby, either lichen, blue shroom, green shroom, berries, carrots.

Primary food for all stage of the game? I cant rely on one sole source.

If im in cave, blue shroom is healing food, lichen is hunger food.
If im in surface, i either eat farmland food or stone fruits other already farmed, or just pick berry, carrot, or honey by killing bees.
If im in ocean for short period, i often carry on some meat or some farmland food.
If im in ocean for long period, i found some honey and croc pot is quite good, as i can get monster meat and plant meat from waterlogged.

[Brago-sama]

Wormwoods got food solved via farms. When i play warly i love making all kinds of food farms, tho i usually settle on honey, leafy meat, and pig late game (year 2-3)

[Copyafriend]

Honestly for autumn and spring i almost exclusively forage for food, i sont even bother cooking it. Winter is typically monster meat meatballs with whatever filler i have left/ice if i’m feeling base-sitty

sanity is typically managed with cactus as i prefer basing in a desert (oasis is preferred over dragonfly because i like having an oasis base but tumbleweeds are very convenient, anything other than cactus can be transplanted)

and summer is whatever can be found in the caves, sometimes i leave 1 or 2 mushroom planters down there for filler/wormwood snacks, but green are handy for sanity and blue are good for healing. 
 

but honestly for the first year just use a shovel in a red mushroom biome once and you have filler for the whole year if you want. 
 

post first year..? It’s really random, i dont typically plan the pros/cons, i just pick one at random and either set up a pigmen farm or honey or a single spider den near the base that i combine with the aforementioned foraged food for meatballs.

as for healing i’ll normally just pick a decent healing food that i can mass produce and mass produce it, pierogis or fishsticks are both pretty common.

i dont do much “thinking ahead” i’m mostly surviving off of vibes

[Cheggf]

They aren't all equally good on purpose. Why would anyone ever put in the effort to make a reliable food source like a farmplot farm, apiary, or pighouse farm if random berry bushes were just as good? Their differences make them balanced, and there are plenty of options at all stages. Berry bushes, carrots, hunts, and monsters are all very easy to obtain with no setup but require a higher time investment whenever you want to get food and have other drawbacks. Pig/bunny farms and apiaries have the highest initial setup but the lowest investment whenever you gather. Farmplot farms are a middleground, with a moderate initial setup and moderate investment required every harvest. There's also Wormwood's freeplanting which is the absolute maximum one-time investment in order to not need to get food basically ever again. 

[lenship2]

smh where's the option for intentionally farming meat from the moonstone event

[GetNerfedOn]

3 hours ago, lenship2 said:

smh where's the option for intentionally farming meat from the moonstone event

Could only fit twenty options and of course dying and reviving with an LGA was a more important choice

[Masked Koopa]

I would definitely like to see some buffs to some of the farm crops, and ESPECIALLY most farm crop crockpot foods. It's such an involved way of growing food and yet it is pretty consistently meh compared to foods you can cook using basic ingredients. Pumpkin Cookies and Stuffed Eggplant come to mind.

I'd also like to see the spoilage window be bumped up for some foods, because 20 days is really not a lot, especially when a lot of that time is gonna be useless to a non WX player. Honey lasts for 40 days, why not let some foods last for 30 or 35 days? A food you can afford to not keep in a bwrap at least has some practical element to it I think, and would leave a niche open other than "food for x stat".

[Mysterious box]

2 minutes ago, Masked Koopa said:

I would definitely like to see some buffs to some of the farm crops, and ESPECIALLY most farm crop crockpot foods. It's such an involved way of growing food and yet it is pretty consistently meh compared to foods you can cook using basic ingredients. Pumpkin Cookies and Stuffed Eggplant come to mind.

I'd also like to see the spoilage window be bumped up for some foods, because 20 days is really not a lot, especially when a lot of that time is gonna be useless to a non WX player. Honey lasts for 40 days, why not let some foods last for 30 or 35 days? A food you can afford to not keep in a bwrap at least has some practical element to it I think, and would leave a niche open other than "food for x stat".

Honestly on average the stats on fruits and veg in the crockpot overall need to go up because it's really telling when it's generally considered not worth using the crockpot on Wurt when she even gets a hunger bonus on it.

[kiwikenobi]

As a Wilson main, I always make a birdcage for eggs and, in addition to monster meat from spiders and hounds, I'll use frog legs to make bacon and eggs, and that's pretty much all I ever need. Maybe an occasional bird or rabbit for a morsel if I have no frog legs. Every once in a while, I'll use a fish morsel if need be. Or if I have way too much monster meat, I'll just make meatballs from that and eggs. But I always have a bird in a birdcage for eggs, is the key thing, and that wasn't in the poll, so I'm explaining why I picked "other."

[Notecja]

There is one unmentioned food source...

Seeds. Like these are everywhere, when I was learning game these were my way to survive winter, and now after I learned crockpot cooking, food values and spend all time to fill my cookbook... I keep eating these damn seeds. Otherwise they just rot, and plaugue world with rot.
Also I consume from time to time that seed overflow from my friend's farming frenzy. Why bother with potatoes, when you have 57i325612 potato seeds?

[GetNerfedOn]

49 minutes ago, kiwikenobi said:

As a Wilson main, I always make a birdcage for eggs and, in addition to monster meat from spiders and hounds, I'll use frog legs to make bacon and eggs, and that's pretty much all I ever need. Maybe an occasional bird or rabbit for a morsel if I have no frog legs. Every once in a while, I'll use a fish morsel if need be. Or if I have way too much monster meat, I'll just make meatballs from that and eggs. But I always have a bird in a birdcage for eggs, is the key thing, and that wasn't in the poll, so I'm explaining why I picked "other."

That's understandable; i was genuinely torn on including Drying racks, Birdcages and Crock Pot Meals themselves given they're more of means of refining food and less food sources

 

That means i missed adding Tallbirds too drat

[goblinball]

I rely on farms, specifically dragonpies and only dragonpies.

after the second year I will have usually amassed enough dragonpies to the point that they are my primary source of hunger (excluding sanity food and the occasional random leafy meat from my Extremely Unnecessary Lureplant Farm)

Nothing in this game gives me more joy than farming dragonfruit.

[SapoLover]

Kelp. Easy to get; set it up, no more hunger/sanity issues. 

Spoiler

As a Wurt main, I set up pig houses to watch them suffer, burn to death and rip off their skin. Getting food for other players is a small bonus.

[Brago-sama]

One of the coolest things i ever found out about barnacles is that bacon and eggs only needs 1.25 meat. Such a good food source. Shame about that whole can't transplant exactly where you want

[Theukon-dos]

Whatever's convenient really. 

 

Food in DST is weird in the sense that the system is so simple that there's not really a reason to invest in "better" food sources because there's no real advantages to it. You can click a real good food once, or click a lesser food that you got in a quarter of the time, twice. 

 

That being said, I'm borderline insulted that Klei managed to break past this problem twice while simultaneously leaving nearly every source of ocean food as sub-par gas station sushi. 

 

Ocean fishing is slow, unintuitive, and gives less meat than just killing things on the mainland. Barnacles have a single good recipe and that still spoils faster than most dishes in the game. And figs have an extremely limited pool of dishes, most of which need you to go super far out of the way and have poor stat returns. IE Figgy Frogwich and Fig-stuffed Trunks

 

Meanwhile, Farming got reworked to have one, if not the highest return on investment in the game. Easily flooding your fridge with fruits and veggies if you put some leg work in. And Tallbird Eggs got a super cheap recipe in Tall Scotch eggs that gives 60 HP and 150 Hunger? Why couldn't the fig-stuffed trunks get that sort of stats? Why did it have to loose out on like half the total hunger of it's ingredients. To hell with it! Make the fig-stuffed trunk 80 HP restored sense apparently 60 isn't a rare number anymore. 

 

Also Klei has a very... weird tendancy to port DLC dishes 1-1 without ever considering the changes in context behind it. Particularly SW dishes.

Fish doesn't have a meat value in SW, but does in DST. But none of the SW dishes where changed to account for this. This has several ramifications, including

1. Surf 'n' Turf doesn't require any turf.

2. Surf 'n' Turf can be made without going to the ocean, requiring only 3 fish morsels and a meat/Monster Meat. This is despite the fact that it's the single best fish dish and should 101% require the ocean.

3. Because Surf 'n' Turf doesn't require any Turf, You can't actually make Sea Food Gumbo; an entirely worse dish I'd like to add; with seafood. You need atleast 1 eel in there to have the meat value low enough to not get Surf 'n' Turf instead. So not only is Sea Food Gumbo worse than Surf 'n' Turf, it's magnitudes harder to make. 

 

Also, Wobsters are much easier to catch than most ocean fishes, due to spawning on the shore. But wobster bisque still gives a great 60 HP. 

 

But probably the worst offender is Puffed Potato Souffle A 1-1 copy of the Sweet Potato Souffle stat wise just with Potatoes instead of Sweet potatoes. Except Sweet Potatoes where SW's equivalent to carrots, and potatoes in DST give way, way more stats than their tropical counterparts. Meaning that not only is Puffed Potatoe souffle way harder to get, it's also the single worst dish in the game due to how much lower it's stats are than the sum of it's parts.

 

It's just weird how Klei couldn't even put in the bare minimum to make sure those recipes still worked conceptually, y'know? 

[Dextops]

4 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said:

But probably the worst offender is Puffed Potato Souffle A 1-1 copy of the Sweet Potato Souffle stat wise just with Potatoes instead of Sweet potatoes. Except Sweet Potatoes where SW's equivalent to carrots, and potatoes in DST give way, way more stats than their tropical counterparts. Meaning that not only is Puffed Potatoe souffle way harder to get, it's also the single worst dish in the game due to how much lower it's stats are than the sum of it's parts.

You forgot about seafood gumbo which is so mechanically flawed it can only be made with eels (unless this was changed and I never noticed)