-Variant Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 First off I want to state I'm not against the change of the art in general. In fact, the new Werepig art is absolutely gorgeous, look at this! Absolutely gorgeous improvements. However, it's the change from Ruins Pink to Red that confuses me. I'm currently under the assumption the change was done at the request to make him better fit into the ruins, however this... doesn't work, since nothing in the Ruins is actually red. It's all Pink. The Ruins are under the effect of a strong colorcube which makes them appear visually red. Making something Red and putting it under this colorcube doesn't do anything but dilute the appearance everywhere else. Previously, in the old iteration of the Pink Werepig, if you were to put him in the Ruins he'd appear red like everything else! Also, personally speaking I find the Pink to be a way more interesting and unique color choice. Red feels are more generic, almost like an injured scar, even... I've made these images to showcase what I mean. In the previous iteration, he matched EVERYTHING Ruins related! This is awesome! He even glows red like many imagine when they think of the Ruins. I hope the team can consider finding a fun middle ground, I appreciate the read. TLDR: Red feels out of place and uninspired, the new art is gorgeous but the Pink felt more in-line with existing content. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Cox Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 He's pretty in pink. Please fix. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameoAppearance Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 It doesn't look bad in red, but instead of a supernatural effect it now looks like a perfectly natural scar from an injury. It's harder to tell that there's something spooky going on with him apart from how big he is. If that's intentional, then it's effective, but if not, it should probably go back to pink. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 The change to red also feels weird when you consider that Pure Terror and Dreadstone; both resources from and associated with the Nightmare Werepig, are pink aswell. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said: The change to red also feels weird when you consider that Pure Terror and Dreadstone; both resources from and associated with the Nightmare Werepig, are pink aswell. they also changed those to red Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, sylvia wander o said: they also changed those to red Oh really? Well, OP's point applies to those too then. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackE Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 The new colouring/texture for the Daywalker is gorgeous, but the removal of the pink from every item was definitely a mistake. it really does just look like a generic scar now, The pink made it stand out more in a good way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Oshiro Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 The problem is that Werepig are now set outside the ruins. Generally, due to the influence of colorcube, all pink things in the ruins are red. I think red is the representative color of nightmare energy. The reason is that the colorcube in the calm and warning stage makes the rune turf appear inert, while the color cube in the nightmare stage makes it appear "active" and emit red light. I think that the reason why Werepig were changed to red is to keep consistent with the ruins, as compensation for not being affected by the colorcube. Like the Nightmare Fissure outside the ruins, they are also red. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackE Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 yes but with red now, it looks like scars. The pink on the Daywalker looked unnatural, which is good, because it is unnatural. You're not wrong with the fissures, but I think pink is the right choice here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mr.Oshiro said: I think that the reason why Werepig were changed to red is to keep consistent with the ruins, as compensation for not being affected by the colorcube. Like the Nightmare Fissure outside the ruins, they are also red. I'm personally inclined to disagree. The red feels generic and doesn't look to help him fit in with the other ruins items. Also... while I'm here, I don't actually understand what people mean by the ruins looking red. It's never looked red to me, it looks very pink when I go in there in its active phase. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombobbit Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I loved the purple color of the werepig and the red looks plain compared to it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrimbles Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I had no idea people were complaining about the pink, it's super weird that it was changed. I even wondered if the red would fit better if he was under the effects of the games nightmare phase saturation modifiers, but nope, pink is much better. Odd, I hope it can be changed back, I just feel bad for the dev who has to revert the colors. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Oshiro Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, -Variant said: I'm personally inclined to disagree. The red feels generic and doesn't look to help him fit in with the other ruins items. Also... while I'm here, I don't actually understand what people mean by the ruins looking red. It's never looked red to me, it looks very pink when I go in there in its active phase. Sorry, there may be a problem with my description. In the active stage of the ruins, you see instead of . The new art is really not as good as the old art in the active stage of the ruins, although they are all red. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 "Ruins pink" is not an real official thing, it's a non-final effect. Actually only "Ruins red" :P Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I prefer pink. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capybara007 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 red wouldve been fine if it stayed on the surface Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 The pink/magenta colors for Daywalker and its resources worked better than red imo. If Klei is trying to do some "oooh these new resources are so evil that they glow red without the influence of the nightmare phase. maybe these are WHAT LURKS BENEATH THE RUINS!!!" stuff then... uhh ok I guess, but this is kind of a generic direction to go in. Nightmare fuel 2.0 and thulecite 2.0 that break the established color scheme. Plus red and black color combo reeks of a totally evil-in-a-cool-way OC do not steal, their eyes turn red when they're angry and they wear all black, very very evil and bad and- Same applies to the pig. Looked better in magenta, red could be mistaken for scars, all the stuff that folks have already said Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fill-Lips Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I think the red needs to glow imo, like people have pointed out, ruins pink is a by product of colour cubemap which makes the ruins red in the active phase. But nightmare pig doesn't have this glow, unlike the ruin red during active phase. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1623977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Something else I'd like to add is that; in color theory; the color Purple is most often associated with corruption and evil. Such as with Badeline from Celeste Or the corruption from Terraria So thematically, the pink/purple from previous versions of the Nightmare Werepig, Pure Terror, and Dreadstone makes much more sense than the current red. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1624048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Vapor Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Am I the only person who thinks it looks way better this way? From an artistic point of view. Sure, maybe give it some glow and maybe even a few shades more pink, but it looks a lot cooler. Instead of looking like one of those dime-a-dozen generic mods. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1624052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 i think that if they add a glowing effect like the one produced by the ruins filter it would look cool Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1624054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nick- Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 12 hours ago, Mr.Oshiro said: To me, it seems that nighmare fissures are the odd one out. Makes more sense to make them pink since everything else is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1624064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datanon Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 personally i think having the final effect being red is much better. pink is a nice color but i dont feel terrified with pink, red is better related to danger, which tells me i should be wary of it i 100% think it should match the color of the ruins, so if they arent spawning in the ruins with the effects/filters and such it should be red, not pink. now, if it DOES have the ruins effects/filters then it should have the same color as everything there, because otherwise its gonna look off Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1624118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackE Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 18 hours ago, Szczuku said: this is kind of a generic direction to go in. Nightmare fuel 2.0 and thulecite 2.0 that break the established color scheme. Plus red and black color combo reeks of a totally evil-in-a-cool-way OC do not steal, their eyes turn red when they're angry and they wear all black, very very evil and bad and- Same applies to the pig. Looked better in magenta, red could be mistaken for scars, all the stuff that folks have already said My thoughts exactly. The red looks too edgy, the pink is nice contrast at the very least Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1624165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I wasn't a fan of the pink for the aboveground, but I think if it is going to be in caves it could probably work if people really want it. Not a big fan of how the armour looks in pink, but if it were sourced from caves I think the colour would at least feel more justified. I do like the new colours, personally. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146382-the-change-of-art-colors-is-confusing/#findComment-1624167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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