DST/Terraria crossover? What? Is there something I missed?

[goblinball]

4 hours ago, Wendy C. said:

All crossovers are, is an excuse to directly rip-off assets and ideas from other games and place them into yours; such that you don't have to actually try to innovate or create anything new. 

This is a very cynical take tbh. Crossovers are just fun, and I think there can be more to them then just copy and pasting assets and calling it a day. When terraria had its dungeon defenders 2 crossover, it received a whole new event like nothing in the game, with tons of armor sets and a desperately needed expansion of the sentry sub-class. The music and sprites from the collab are all great, too. Collaborations are a chance for developers to take ideas and twist them in a way so that they are a fun addition to the game’s world. Crossovers are not “disgusting, tasteless, and utterly lacking in depth or creativity”; they have the potential to be the exact opposite.

[Baark0]

18 hours ago, Wendy C. said:

I absolutely despise crossovers with a burning passion and I hope there will be none whatsoever. 
All crossovers are, is an excuse to directly rip-off assets and ideas from other games and place them into yours; such that you don't have to actually try to innovate or create anything new. 
Surprise surprise, the cancerous tumor on gaming society known as Fortnite is over 97% crossover material, ripping off every movie franchise known to mankind. 
Instead of begging for a crossover, you all should ask for something of actual substance, something that will actually improve the game and make it better. 
I play "Don't Starve". I bought Don't Starve so I could play Don't Starve, because I like Don't Starve. 
Why would I want Terraria, a game I very specifically am NOT playing right now, to invade the other game I actually enjoy? 
You people don't make any sense. 

If I were watching The Lord of the Rings, and suddenly Chuck Norris and Luke Skywalker emerge from nowhere and roundhouse-kick Sauron's head off, I would walk out of the theatre in disgust. It is disgusting, tasteless, and utterly lacking in depth or creativity. And that's ALL crossovers. 

What the hell did crossovers do to you?

[Falkenpelz]

22 hours ago, Wendy C. said:

I hate all of you. 
This community is doomed. 

I love just how in character that is with your name.

Okay, I have never played Terraria and I don't think I'd hate a crossover, I just don't feel like the two universes would go well together. Doesn't Terraria have all that Cthulhu bodyparts stuff? To just stuff together two very different types of magic and worldbuilding because yes sounds like a bad idea.. 

[JeezSorry]

Imagine if its just the next equivalent to the gorge and forge event

[Jero-San]

On 9/24/2021 at 1:19 PM, deemo_ said:

This image is from an AMA done by the Terraria devs a while ago. Everything just makes sense for it to be a Terraria crossover. 
 

Obviously this could just be another Klei ruse and the super secret thing could be something else entirely, which doesn’t sound too bad, but the amount of evidence is pretty telling.

Do you have the link to this?

 

[SomebodyRandom]

2 hours ago, Jero-San said:

Do you have the link to this?

Here you go

[Jero-San]

3 hours ago, SomebodyRandom said:

Here you go

Thank you!

On 10/12/2021 at 11:02 PM, Wendy C. said:

I hate all of you. 
This community is doomed. 

even if i don't get what is your problem with crossovers, i respect that you dont like it

but why do you have to be so harsh with people who are excited for it, a statement like "the community is doomed" over something that brings joy to a lot of them just makes you look like a toxic person

I get that you dont like crossovers, and even if i dont agree with your points, i respect them

but i dont think its neccesary to treat the people who are excited for it like that

[QuQuasar]

On 10/14/2021 at 6:09 AM, Baark0 said:

What the hell did crossovers do to you?

Crossovers killed their parents, so now they prowl the streets of Gotham fighting corporate marketing executives.

[Wendy C.]

On 10/13/2021 at 1:09 PM, Baark0 said:

What the hell did crossovers do to you?

They killed my enjoyment for many, many things. 

On 10/13/2021 at 5:05 PM, Falkenpelz said:

I love just how in character that is with your name.

I take myself very seriously. 

[Catteflyterpill]

On 10/12/2021 at 8:22 PM, Wendy C. said:

I absolutely despise crossovers with a burning passion and I hope there will be none whatsoever. 
All crossovers are, is an excuse to directly rip-off assets and ideas from other games and place them into yours; such that you don't have to actually try to innovate or create anything new. 
Surprise surprise, the cancerous tumor on gaming society known as Fortnite is over 97% crossover material, ripping off every movie franchise known to mankind. 
Instead of begging for a crossover, you all should ask for something of actual substance, something that will actually improve the game and make it better. 
I play "Don't Starve". I bought Don't Starve so I could play Don't Starve, because I like Don't Starve. 
Why would I want Terraria, a game I very specifically am NOT playing right now, to invade the other game I actually enjoy? 
You people don't make any sense. 

If I were watching The Lord of the Rings, and suddenly Chuck Norris and Luke Skywalker emerge from nowhere and roundhouse-kick Sauron's head off, I would walk out of the theatre in disgust. It is disgusting, tasteless, and utterly lacking in depth or creativity. And that's ALL crossovers. 

Word of advice, it's usually best to avoid absolutes. Sure some franchises just use crossovers as a marketing ploy and make them feel forced and uninteresting to the world. But crossovers can also be a really cool chance to see how different styles and ideas are reimagined. In this sense they're not 'ripping off' anything, if the assets are reimagning ideas to fit stylistically. It's kind of like a "Draw This in Your Own Style" challenge. Sure some people just do the same exact thing and that's never interesting, but it's incredible to see the creative routes people might take to make things their own. Still a distinctive character or concept, but now a work of the artist's creativity.

They aren't going to make Don't Starve into Terraria, or just have pixelated Planteras floating across the screen. I totally get not liking crossovers, as I normally don't, but a lot of the time having enjoying yourself comes down to opening yourself to new experienes and opportunities. Sometimes we're the ones forcing ourselves to not have fun. Maybe give it a try when things come out? I hope it's better than you expected and you find it's a nice addition to the game.

[Wendy C.]

17 minutes ago, Catteflyterpill said:

Maybe give it a try when things come out? I hope it's better than you expected and you find it's a nice addition to the game.

My optimism died along with Abigail. I don't see this going well at all, and the implications for the future disgust me. 
I'm predicting it now: within five years, the game will be nothing but crossovers and monetization. 
Such is the way of Modern Games, to have the soul forcibly sucked out and shredded into money. 

[ALCRD]

On 10/13/2021 at 4:02 AM, Wendy C. said:

I hate all of you. 
This community is doomed. 

Never change, Wendy 

[Mike23Ua]

18 minutes ago, Wendy C. said:

My optimism died along with Abigail. I don't see this going well at all, and the implications for the future disgust me. 
I'm predicting it now: within five years, the game will be nothing but crossovers and monetization. 
Such is the way of Modern Games, to have the soul forcibly sucked out and shredded into money. 

Im not too worried about that, 5 years is a long time.. they could completely shutdown the console platforms capable of playing the game by that time. Enjoy what you have while you have it.. I’m sorry that this Cross-Over upsets you, but.. hopefully you end up pleased with it.

Crossovers aren’t terrible, HOW they’re implemented makes or breaks the deal.

Klei has been telling a “Multiverse” story since Dont Starves very inception: Technically they can make anything fit into DST and explain it all away by lol’z Multiverse shenanigans.

I really loved the Art design and Gameplay of Max Curse of Brotherhood- I would Adore a Crossover with that I also encourage anyone who was a fan of DS’s original darker creepier vibe to give Max a try (the hilarious part in all that is Max is ALSO a game rated for children..) so I’m failing to see why Klei won’t add more mildly disturbing content into DST a Teen rated game.

Hopefully if they DO these Terraria and Max Curse of Brotherhood crossovers- They’ll bring back some of the creepier vibes DST lost along the way.. And Just LOOK AT the Hallowed Nights announcement thread, there’s a quite bizarre looking eyeball popping in to see what poor Wilson is up to.

Im sorry crossovers disappoint you, But.. as for me I am HOPEFUL this Crossover reinstalls some of the more bizarre weird and mildly disturbing atmosphere/content DST lost between DS’s original design.

(and I would say creepy looking eyeball popping in to watch what I’m doing is well on its way! )

[Catteflyterpill]

1 hour ago, Wendy C. said:

My optimism died along with Abigail. I don't see this going well at all, and the implications for the future disgust me. 
I'm predicting it now: within five years, the game will be nothing but crossovers and monetization. 
Such is the way of Modern Games, to have the soul forcibly sucked out and shredded into money. 

k.

[minespatch]

1 hour ago, Wendy C. said:

shredded into money. 

Spools?

[LinknAllie]

1 hour ago, Wendy C. said:

My optimism died along with Abigail. I don't see this going well at all, and the implications for the future disgust me. 
I'm predicting it now: within five years, the game will be nothing but crossovers and monetization. 
Such is the way of Modern Games, to have the soul forcibly sucked out and shredded into money. 

I get where you're coming from.

[ADM]

Oh boi... (someone send me that from Terraria Twitter)

[IDontUseThisAcc]

On 9/24/2021 at 6:58 AM, SinancoTheBest said:

never done before secret event

Didn't they have a crossover with TF2 way back when?

[Wendy C.]

31 minutes ago, Former Furry said:

Didn't they have a crossover with TF2 way back when?

It's more accurate to say TF2 gave a shout-out to Don't Starve. 
Don't Starve received nothing from that deal, and it was never planned for there to be. 

No, Pyro was *NOT* going to be in the game, the Developers have said so many times. 

[cropo]

You may have to start getting used to crossovers. There is very little they can add or change at this point in the game besides more quality of life updates.

 

We already had a major content update with the sea, which was received with mixed reception. We now have 2 ''final bosses''. Definitive lore additions are going to get rarer and rarer since so much has been revealed already that revealing anymore would spoil all the mystery. Having the players defeat Charlie in some epic final showdown would either require them to end the storyline alltogether, or just throw in a contrived next-level threat which you could argue would be just as repetitive and toxic as crossovers.

 

They also can't really add many more things inbetween early and endgame because a majority of items already have a role and introducing more items would be redundant at best, and would devalue current items we have at worst. There's very little room left to innovate content because any angle they could take would threaten to cannibalize other areas of the game. If they ever added Shipwrecked or Hamlet, they'd cannibalize the community since it would divide players immensely if they didn't release it for free, which considering the astronomical task it would be to add them is out of the question. There's very little they can do with new characters at this point since every role and interesting perk has been achieved, Wandas perk is literally being able to fast-travel, that's her power....

 

I would argue that it's going to take a lot less than 5 years for a larger amount of crossovers to happen. It's inevitable.  But Klei has usually had a semi-decent track record of maintaining balance and fidelity to the games art style and game loop, they've definitely made huge mistakes and ruined fun in certain areas of the game but they've persevered a lot better than most devs on the market today so I don't think crossovers are going to be a big deal.

[Wendy C.]

2 minutes ago, cropo said:

You may have to start getting used to crossovers. =

Any remaining scrap of hope I had for a good ending to all this has been utterly incinerated. 
All that's left is disdain and hatred. 

[Mike23Ua]

I highly doubt DST is going to become Crossover Mania.

Although- Some games (like Lego dimensions) entire theme is to BE one huge Crossover.

From a Lore point we don’t actually KNOW What the Constant is or how it connects to the Gorge/Forge/Shipwrecked/Hamlet we don’t know how that time line interacts with the real world or any other potential multiverse crossover shenanigans.

All we know is it’s a strange place, an alternative realm, another reality- For all we know Klei may be wanting to cross DST into other franchise to EXPAND its Lore, not Decimate it…

I guess we will find out soon if cross-overs are looped into the games own lore, or if they’re just a fun little side distraction to the main attraction.

[cropo]

14 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

I highly doubt DST is going to become Crossover Mania.

Although- Some games (like Lego dimensions) entire theme is to BE one huge Crossover.

From a Lore point we don’t actually KNOW What the Constant is or how it connects to the Gorge/Forge/Shipwrecked/Hamlet we don’t know how that time line interacts with the real world or any other potential multiverse crossover shenanigans.

All we know is it’s a strange place, an alternative realm, another reality- For all we know Klei may be wanting to cross DST into other franchise to EXPAND its Lore, not Decimate it…

I guess we will find out soon if cross-overs are looped into the games own lore, or if they’re just a fun little side distraction to the main attraction.

You're speaking from a Watsonion perspective, I would actually be very hostile against crossovers if they tried to -seriously- make them a part of the canon in Don't Starve. You can add whacky, non-canon content just fine.

 

From a doylist perspective we do know the mechanics of the constant: They aren't disclosed so they can be used to do anything they want in the future without contradicting previously established lore.  Dead by Daylight devs tried to do the exact same thing with their ''we don't understand the entitys realm'' and trying to make all of their crossover characters canon despite the established mechanics and lore in each respective crossover characters universe not being able to mesh well at all with the universe of that game. There's no reason they can't just say ''This is non-canon fun'' and leave it at that.

[Zeklo]

30 minutes ago, cropo said:

From a doylist perspective we do know the mechanics of the constant: They aren't disclosed so they can be used to do anything they want in the future without contradicting previously established lore.

We have a Gateway capable of linking multiple vastly different realms, a Shadow Throne capable of bestowing the power of creation, and apparently entities capable of granting mortals the ability to tear through time and space.

I really don't have a problem with the way they are [seemingly] doing it. The Eye of Cthulhu is very obviously peeking out of a portal.
We already got things like Imps that come from who-knows where. It's not all that different.

[cropo]

14 minutes ago, Zeklo said:

We have a Gateway capable of linking multiple vastly different realms, a Shadow Throne capable of bestowing the power of creation, and apparently entities capable of granting mortals the ability to tear through time and space.

I really don't have a problem with the way they are [seemingly] doing it. The Eye of Cthulhu is very obviously peeking out of a portal.
We already got things like Imps that come from who-knows where. It's not all that different.

Any of the threats in terraria would absolutely decimate anything in the Don't Starve universe in a second.  It's like putting Dragonball Z characters in another world.  I get that it'd be cool as a fun crossover event but making a contrived explanation for how these godly-level threats from other games are introduced to the constant and ''weakened'' to justify them being in the constant without being able to blow everything up with a glance would tarnish the game in my opinion.