Charsis Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I agree with this Too much randomly elaborate perk for characters that is all over the place. Single player OG mechanics much more simple and better to understand and more fun to work with I think. What @Cyberboy2000 say on this topic I agree 100%, is too much and really the new transformations not necessary. The beaver actually look like a werebeaver curse, the other two look more like basic pseudo anthropomorphic characters and it is too much. Or at least the goose is, moose look more like a full furry character. Klei has lots of unimplemented content and removed content before and I would like if this transformations just got removed because Woodie is, or was about getting that wood, nothing else. Maxwell is the reason he fall short on being main best wood collector. If both of them more like single player counter part, Woodie would be main guy to go for wood. Maxwell just too good. There is also the skeletons later game and bearger, but that is complete other topic. Really, just make Maxwell more of better at most things but not best at anything I think is good for his puppets. When Maxwell rework come around, make him like single player, but allow minions to also dig once when Maxwell digs and follow combat pattern of player somehow when in combat may be, and may be not die in 2 days still, but who knows what is better for balance here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Make. Maxwell. A. Magician. Make him a magic-based character with efficiency with the magic tab. He doesn't need to be a log collector. He's a dapper aristocrat, god dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frashaw27 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Canis said: Make. Maxwell. A. Magician. Make him a magic-based character with efficiency with the magic tab. He doesn't need to be a log collector. He's a dapper aristocrat, god dammit. I think the codex is fine as his role as magician as he is making more peiple and making them serve him. I also see it fitting with his aristocratic persona as people of high standard won't usually do manual labor and get other people to do it. While you can whip Wesii to do your work, its much more simpler just to get your workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Lakurion would be sad. 10/10 would nerf maxwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilobit Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I think this post really highlights the state the game is in currently. People want characters to be redone based around the attributes of characters who're going to be redone, so that the game can be... balanced. But they're going to be redone... just not NOW. So it's a really weird thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thomas Die Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Come on ADM think about it Magic powers not wood power M A G I C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodieMain45684 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Honestly I don't mind Maxwell staying where he is in regards to wood chopping. It gives the player more variety when approaching a problem (how to get WUD?). I DO think that it would be cool to have Maxwell do some more neat tricks with magic than what he already does. I do not per-se think that he needs a nerf though... He feels like a risk reward type character. The risk being 75 hp, and the reward being his shadow abilities. If they were to give him some INSANE magic powers then I would understand a nerf, but for now, he's pretty cool to me, even though I'm from the opposite camp (camp W00die). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. KatKit Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Maxwell isn't a wood collector. His harvest power is good because he has bigger downsides than Woodie. His powers should be stronger than other characters to make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Cpt. KatKit said: Maxwell isn't a wood collector. His harvest power is good because he has bigger downsides than Woodie. His powers should be stronger than other characters to make up for it. Mmm... Honestly I don't think so, the power of Woodie is itself full of consequence on his health and other factors, Maxwell's Shadows power have no malus, if you can see as me that a low sanity can be a very good point for him. Shadow's have no limited use and can be summoned, removed very easely and Woodie have no much quick control on it. So even if both have good attributes, Maxwell's once is the more easy to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunazone Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I don't see how he's a better collecter if it takes him a proverbial boatload of nightmare fuel to make the collection faster; if Woodie can just do it any time and place regardless of him being a werebever. I think the wiggle room Woodie has should make him better in general at the collection of wood. Maxwell should not be nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frashaw27 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, Squeegee said: proverbial boatload of nightmare fuel It's 8 fuel for a full team? You also get 1/2 of it back if you kill off the puppets so I don't see how it takes a lot of nightmare fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunazone Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, Frashaw27 said: It's 8 fuel for a full team? You also get 1/2 of it back if you kill off the puppets so I don't see how it takes a lot of nightmare fuel. It's the fact you need resources that aren't super easy to come by to collect a common resource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. KatKit Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 10 hours ago, ADM said: Mmm... Honestly I don't think so, the power of Woodie is itself full of consequence on his health and other factors, Maxwell's Shadows power have no malus, if you can see as me that a low sanity can be a very good point for him. Shadow's have no limited use and can be summoned, removed very easely and Woodie have no much quick control on it. So even if both have good attributes, Maxwell's once is the more easy to use. His downside is having horrible max hp. Not fragmenting his sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkShark Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Clearly Maxwell should be able to pull a rabbit out of his hat. Now that's what I call a magician. How do they do it!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoscopeFelix Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I hope in maxwells rework that he can enslave small willed creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Die Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, NoscopeFelix said: I hope in maxwells rework that he can enslave small willed creatures. wow , dude that's messed up i like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, NoscopeFelix said: I hope in maxwells rework that he can enslave small willed creatures. Maxwell and his army of Picos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoscopeFelix Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, minespatch said: Maxwell and his army of Picos. Now THATS terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeagleSnorf Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 All I read was “Rework Maxwell to be worse” and I stopped (of course I read the whole title but c’mon) aren’t these character reworks supposed to make the characters better? Otherwise why would they bother reworking at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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