Junksteel Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Hello colony managers, After the full release of QoL II I'm considering to drop my 1700 cycle colony to start over. (that itchy!! is it just me?) I have hundreds of hours spent in the game already but I feel there is so much to learn still (this tells a lot about the replayability of this incredible game). I do better each new save I start and I've been increasing the number of duplicants I can take care of. As I'm no engineer nor super creative inventor, I need to take inspiration from others work to improve myself in this game (truely amazing systems I meet here everyday, thanks for sharing). Differently from the single systems people most commonly post, I would really love to see pictures of full old well stablished bases to take ideas of better ways to develop my own next colony. I think my colonies don't age well. Things are too far from a main core and duplicants spend most of their time traveling and sleeping. Simple tasks in space biome take an eternity. Also, I feel like maybe I'm doing excessive exploration and digging way too much. My map is ugly and inefficient. Do you have an old colony you are proud of? I would love to take a look. Cheers! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vad0 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Yes, i'm happy on most of the things there. Of course, i'd could do better now. Im at around 1200 cycle. Got 2 liquid hydrogen rockets, 16 dupes, enough food and O2. But started another base last night. I think, i can do better Got electrolyser and Dreko farm running by turn 45. Working on my food supply. Lacking mushroom seeds. Dupes are so slow and stupid. It's lots of fun to start over. I like the early game because of struggle. You always short on something. After 400 cycle or so everything settles down, all you can do is improving things and space program ofc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgamer123 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 i got mine a 2400 cycle base (maybe upload later when I got the mood lol) copy a bit of stuff from everyone .and stubborn on some very stupid ineffective way on certain problem just because I feel it look pretty. I do super careful on dig abysstile out once I hit 400 cycle so most of the map is no open atm (still 1 chron vent not open yet,maybe there some time I will do gas cow) even using debug mode to restore when I break the nature environment in the wrong way lol 13 guy only. I was very happy on the outter part of the base,but due to the main base(this was my first game too)was build when I was newbie....there still a bit of problem not fixed. If i do a new base(mostly with after the full release) I will make the core base a bit better,most important I will drop the print pod and build some where else,It don't fit most of the time,and I cannot remove it later even I got a better design in my mind that I just needddd the print pod move 1 block to the left etc. The Mid left is all pet Nat gas main power plant .the left bot yellow is 150C pet pool I dun know how many there. in between is slicster for Co2 recycle.the orange gas next to it is my first oil well .the oil will drop to the mid bottom section and pump into a ruin that have a volcano next to it for oil to pet and pump back to main power source( 4 nat gase gen and 3 pet gen).the mid bottom section try to make use of the 2 oil well( still doing it slowly),it keep making steam......due to I put steam vent water to it,but I dont want to cold down those water .... core base is middle with a big roof capture H2.most guy use transit tube reach top for space there is a Iron volcano between core base and the oil sector .using it to boil oil to pet too.another iron volcano in the left side of the H2 roof of my core base(nearly the pools of mixed Ph2O and H2O) using steam gen for cooling.right side is a mostly unused just 1 steam vent pump water to core base switch to oil well (bottom)right now but under re-design due to many reason. The unused right and other place is free wild sleet farm mostly.a pool of water in middle right is tamed pacu. there also a wild decko farm between core base and power main power plant.below the big orange gas room there is a huge Ph2o pool made from power gen water and map water ..about 20 wild pacu live there give me lime There a AETN next to main power plant but I cannot think of a way to use it so it unused for 2000 cycle(this was the first one I discovered lol) another 1 next to a slush near the upper iron volcano ,I use it to make more ice. the final one AETN is near the middle top you can see a large pool of mixed.I use it to make more ice (I was plan to make liquid h2 there b4 but somehow drop a lot water in it lol )and pre-cool H2 that going to liquidfy. that AETN is the only connect point to space so all air run pass it will cold down to -10.but there was so much battery out there the space sector was 70C up haha the left 2 rocket is pet engine going to make a third rocket using H2 in eft far left of space sector.plan to open a new path from there to main power plan and pump pet from there. addition notes:I use the space ruin for solar battery room Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junksteel Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 What? Is it possible to build the printing pod elsewhere?? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgamer123 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Junksteel said: What? Is it possible to build the printing pod elsewhere?? no,except you debug it. What I mean is my next new game will build somewhere else far from print pod as core...my current base gone tho a huge remake somewhere in 1000 cycle,but the printing pod stuck there hence some of my base setup cannot update/change due to this. EDIT: you can put a massage table on each side of print pod and art on top of table and box it in as a massage center room Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, Junksteel said: What? Is it possible to build the printing pod elsewhere?? No, but you do not need to build your base around it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vad0 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gurgel said: No, but you do not need to build your base around it. well, its in the middle of friendly biome and You cannot move your base to the jungle or any other biome till later in the game. In my last one, i moved barracs to space just for giggles. but it happened after cycle 800 for sure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullematsch Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 If you don't mind me linking a video, this is a tour of my last colony: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junksteel Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 @Mullematsch, thank you for sharing. I already saw some of your videos and they are... impressive. As inspiring as they are I'm affraid I'd need a second or third brain to follow some of your designs. This base is so compact and well designed that I have the impression you had the perfect blueprint of it in your mind before placing the first tile. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullematsch Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Junksteel said: @Mullematsch, thank you for sharing. I already saw some of your videos and they are... impressive. As inspiring as they are I'm affraid I'd need a second or third brain to follow some of your designs. This base is so compact and well designed that I have the impression you had the perfect blueprint of it in your mind before placing the first tile. I wouldn't go that far . Half my design are copied from the forum and the other half don't work too well. The oil boiler I build is absolutely terrible and I used Saturnus power switch magic and completely misunderstood how it works. But I am finally getting it and in general this forum is a great place to learn and get inspiration. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 NO I keep running the game in the background while I do something interesting, waiting for the game to gather resources, so I can FREAKING build something more. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 53 minutes ago, Mullematsch said: If you don't mind me linking a video, this is a tour of my last colony: I saw the video last night. I love the pixel artwork. Very nice job. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpongledd Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 This is my last base: I also got an updated save file, where i cleaned all debris, stored it, some prototype build for volcanos and oil cooker, implemented a base cooling system to keep everything around 22degree and some other minor stuff. In case you are more interested in "cleaned" base. Im waiting for the official release since I dont feel like there is more for me to learn. The only things i would do different in the next base are: - Cooling down Oxygen with an pipe heat exchanger (i saw a thread some days ago, where our techies discussed different patterns, effectivness etc.) - Implement my own oil cooker / sour gas producer Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroturtle Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I think I'm on like my 4th or 5th base to reach 1500+ cycles. I generally restart a new base with each update. I tend to screenshot a lot of my mini-systems and then reuse them in future bases if they've worked well. Sometimes I tweak them to make them work even better, it's definitely a iterative process. I imagine others have a similar playstyle, and that's why you see these bases that seem so streamlined and well thought out. I know each of my bases have been better then the previous base. For example, I have a certain design I've settled in on for my main base, and from cycle 1 I'm building toward this design. So by the time I get to cycle 1000, I have a very organized central base that looks like it's been planned out. That's because it has, but also because I've built the same thing numerous times while occationally tweaking it to my liking. Certain things like my battery/transformer setup and steam geyser setup I've built so many times I don't even need to look at screenshots and can just queue up all the construction and have them built very quickly. I've even played the same seed over again from the start. It's amazing how much better it turned out the second time after having experience with the exact layout on the previous base. I also reached the same point progression-wise in about 2/3 of the cycles, since I didn't waste time figuring things out the 2nd time through. Don't get me wrong though, this is just how *I* play the game, and people all have their own style. Sometimes I envy the folks who are able to just build whatever with no regards to organization or asthetics. My OCD doesn't allow that and everything I build has to be fully planned out, which takes forever sometimes, but it's what I do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junksteel Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 @hpongledd Nice. Amazing base! I am definitely interested in any stuff you guys are willing to share. Pictures, videos, save files. Anything will be useful and very well appreciated. Also, if you don't mind to tell, what's your reference for rocketry gimmicks? I failed trying to make liquid oxygen consistently. I'm drawing very nice ideas from your base. Edit: Just downloaded your save. Can't wait to get home and take a deep look inside it. Big thanks.@Nitroturtle Great to read that. I like to replay in the same seed as well as I know where are the crucial points I need to reach out. Organization and aesthetics are also very important to me even not having mastered them yet. I admire your symmetry devotion and the beauty of the stuff you share.Thanks for motivating me to keep doing what I'm doing. Pretty inspiring work and words. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpongledd Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Junksteel said: @hpongledd Nice. Amazing base! I am definitely interested in any stuff you guys are willing to share. Pictures, videos, save files. Anything will be useful and very well appreciated. Also, if you don't mind to tell, what's your reference for rocketry gimmicks? I failed trying to make liquid oxygen consistently. I'm drawing very nice ideas from your base. Edit: Just downloaded your save. Can't wait to get home and take a deep look inside it. Big thanks. As soon as im home i can send you the updated save file. Need to take a look into it myself, but i dont think there is a lot more you can draw out from it compared to the "official" one. But the previous base, has more of a "natural" approach to the game, which is in other ways nice, atleast for me. This could be useful too. Core concept for liquid O2/H2 is from @Lifegrow, I dont know if he posted it somewhere in the forums. @Lifegrow you have a link to your build? Maybe a bit too far atm, but maybe also useful. In my next base i'll use those two things here: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, hpongledd said: Core concept for liquid O2/H2 is from @Lifegrow, I dont know if he posted it somewhere in the forums. @Lifegrow you have a link to your build? Theres the vid, there is a forum post here too somewhere Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenMadness Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I always restart the game before I get to that stage lol. I'm never satisfied by how my base looks and I try to design a new one in a new game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1157961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 My last base was 620+ cycles. I.. just.. can`t... resist... to start over. Just checked the performance (went to 30fps from 16). My bases are always such a mess. Last one had insane amounts of water (3 polluted water +1 slush) and i was literally getting flooded. Didn`t have a good concept to fix most of the issues and decided to start over and try to avoid them. As i usually do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1158044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 18 hours ago, Junksteel said: After the full release of QoL II I'm considering to drop my 1700 cycle colony to start over. (that itchy!! is it just me?) Your decision, but MK2 is not worth the work. Visuals are nice yes, but gameplay sucks for me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1158134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junksteel Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 Hey everyone, thank you for the replies so far. I was lucky enough to put my hands in stuff that will be game changing for me. @Sasza22 I feel like starting over is pretty cool. That dream "this time I'll make things right" is a carrot on a stick that I don't mind to follow. I really feel I am better and more aware of game mechanics each time I restart. This is my third base which survives beyond a 1000 cycles but has so many problems to fix that I am more than happy to drop it.@melquiades That's pretty cool! How many cycles are you at? I'm curious to see how a eternal base looks like! @Oozinator I'm kinda new to the game, I don't have enough experience to see the flaws (ignorance is a bless sometimes). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1158204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemisis311 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 3:39 AM, Junksteel said: As I'm no engineer nor super creative inventor, I need to take inspiration from others work to improve myself in this game (truely amazing systems I meet here everyday, thanks for sharing). I'm a little late to the party, but I'm also one that *needs* inspiration from others. I like to take in bits and pieces and put the parts I like together. This was my last base that was heavily influenced from random bits of everyone else (and even made a critique post before doing it in survival). I don't have references of who I got what exact thing from, but 90% of ideas are based off something clever I saw somewhere else. My longest run so far is still a heavy work in progress and I haven't gotten around to the automated shipping rooms or cleaning up the messes. So it isn't the neatest looking thing to be proud of. (couple future shipping rooms, yep stolen from someone else). Spoiler I'll post the full thing along with some of the best parts and how they connected that worked out really well in survival. As much as I want to keep things clean and organized I always end up building random junk everywhere lol. I'm super happy with how the home base layout worked in the long run (though next round I think I'd make the chlorine food chamber larger to hold ingredients instead of the bottom of my base, and instead stick mushroom farm and submerged slime storage in the bottom CO2 sink). Spoiler Overview: cycle 1670, Only touched on steam rockets so far. Overall base layout was pre-planned for 12 dupes (3 schedules of 4). 1670 cycles now and I never did get around to the jukebot automation lol. There's still a TON I haven't done yet, like a proper aquatuner setup for water going into the kitchen (currently in the P/H2O dump on the right, that will be located in the vacuum above right hand geyser). Secondary priority bridge water reservoir below geyser goes to aquatuner then kitchen. Rest of water goes into bulk below. I originally did the weezewart above geyser thing, but then realized why not just use water headed to be deleted anyways to condense the steam. The one on the right is PH2O headed from base loop into sieve. The left NG you'll notice the weezewart... I stole that idea, I believe, from Brothgar. At times it packs up like 50k+ gas into the chamber above. Ingredients from wild farms is stored in the CO2 sink, cooked food is auto-shipped from the kitchen into chlorine storage attached on the left, and auto-shipped into receptacle in a mini CO2 sink in the great hall for ultimate freshness. PH2O geyser bulk storage sent to clock automation alternating sieves (keeps the area cool), condensing steam, and sent into electrolyzers with priority bridge. I wanted to include the left refinery section in here... I got this idea from another post and it's one of my favorites, 10/10. I produced petroleum early and transported it with pitcher pump and used manual power to get it running early game. During the phase of mass producing gold and steel that turbine was running nonstop, keeping the heat under control, and providing me with full power for many cycles. Haven't bothered with Power control station in the generator room yet, I have more power than I know what to do with lol. Power room idea was a combination of two different ideas I've seen, and then came up with the fertilizer below (I'm sure I'm not the first). PH2O on liquid sensor automation, priority goes to tanks->fertilizer then overflows down to bulk PH2O storage. The automation door in the NG says if the above room is lower than 5k and lower is over 7k to open. Currently it's 20k top and 88.4k in the fertilizer room lol. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1160460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilibat Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I never make it to long term. Maybe once the game actually releases I will. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1160492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFrancis Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I do like my long term base but the FPS is what kills it for me in the end. Even keeping the complexity of the base down and not using builds that are CPU hogs (looking at you morbs) once you start dipping below 20 fps it just becomes less enjoyable. Below is my base, I know I'v stolen bits and pieces of other peoples designs to help stick it all together. Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1160522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junksteel Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Thanks everyone for all the feedback. I am truely inspired for all the posts and started a new run. I came up with this crazy idea of building a base with round rooms only. It's not very efficient but look gorgeous and I'm in love with it. I'll post the results once I have decent progress. I'm around cycle 350 now.@JohnFrancis I'm a loyal subscriber of your channel. I'm learning a lot from it. Keep it up! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103124-do-you-like-your-long-term-base/#findComment-1160538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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