They changed the Algae Terrarium

[Deustodo]

It wasn't in any of the patch notes (I think), but now Algae Terrarium now consume only a fraction of the water they receive, most of it gets converted into polluted Water inside the "building", and then needs to be emptied by a Duplicant. I guess they are more viable now?

[Kabrute]

yeah they are balanced finally, yay

[LaShomb]

Is that a positive 333.33 mg/s for carbon dioxide in the effects? Does it now produce CO2?

[absimiliard]

Looks like it, I wonder if it's an error in the documentation or if someone accidentally snipped out a "-" from the code itself.

 

If it's the code that's .. not great.

[ColBBQ]

No, they don't emit CO2.

 

[blash365]

Has to be a typo. The usual CO2 producers are made of ooze.

[onebit]

30 minutes ago, ColBBQ said:

No, they don't emit CO2.

 

You tested or are you saying that's how they should work?

[Deustodo]

Have about 11 of them in my base, they don't emit CO2, they consume it. or try to.

[ColBBQ]

36 minutes ago, onebit said:

You tested or are you saying that's how they should work?

Tested it but still the bottom three of the oxyenators due to overpressure stress.

[goboking]

That makes them more viable as a temporary solution in the early game, but long term they're even more useless now than they were before.  The problem wasn't just the water consumption, it was the delivery time required to keep them watered.  Now that workload is doubled if we have to manually clear out polluted water.

[Kabrute]

will sweeper arms load bottle emptiers? Also set a liquid vent over your terrarium and drip feed it water

[trukogre]

6 minutes ago, goboking said:

That makes them more viable as a temporary solution in the early game, but long term they're even more useless now than they were before.  The problem wasn't just the water consumption, it was the delivery time required to keep them watered.  Now that workload is doubled if we have to manually clear out polluted water.

I disagree, I think they're more viable now over any time frame.  Is it viable to build a ton of them and/or rely on them for your primary oxygen source? No, but it never was.  They're now more useful to me, for the use I put them to.

[FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX]

2 hours ago, onebit said:

You tested or are you saying that's how they should work?

yes

[WanderingKid]

11 minutes ago, goboking said:

That makes them more viable as a temporary solution in the early game, but long term they're even more useless now than they were before.  The problem wasn't just the water consumption, it was the delivery time required to keep them watered.  Now that workload is doubled if we have to manually clear out polluted water.

You could hose them down via flooding, requiring only  algae deliveries.  All this means is the end of the terrarium pit will have a PH2O output and a filter now to recycle the H2O back in while sending the PH2O elsewhere.  Bit more power requirements on water circulation for a lot more return.  Early game is usually much better dealt with by simply digging a CO2 pit and moving on with life. 

What I'm interested in is the 40g of O2 for 30g of Algae with almost no water waste (10g/s insetead of the 300 g/s it used to be).  Deoxydizer drops 500 g/s O2 for 550 g/s Algae.  Considering usually that 10 g/s of the H2O would net to 8.88 g/s of O2 and 1.12 g/s of Hydrogen, it's actually a minor gain now, especially early game.  No power costs, no heat generation, and you can bulk flood large quantities of them.

This... might actually become good!

[vonVile]

Who do you get Dupes to empty it? I turned up Life Support and Tidy on a Dupe and gave it a P9, but they won't touch it.

[Kabrute]

do you have a bottle emptier set to pwater?

[calecaz]

19 minutes ago, vonVile said:

Who do you get Dupes to empty it? I turned up Life Support and Tidy on a Dupe and gave it a P9, but they won't touch it.

Good question.   I've made someone jobless and cycled though all the priories and no one wants to touch it it seems!!   its driving me crazy... must be a bug.

[KittenIsAGeek]

My dupes had no problems at all emptying them.  Make sure you have a bottle emptier set for polluted water.

 

[calecaz]

i do have emptier.  They also wont deliver PW to my hydroponic reeds.   Something else must be going on here... probably operator error.

[Man in the Mist]

If you have hydroponic tiles then a liquid pipe is required.  Duplicants will only manually deliver to regular farm tiles.

[calecaz]

lol ... operator error,  as usual.   ty

[vonVile]

1 hour ago, Kabrute said:

do you have a bottle emptier set to pwater?

Yes, I have 2 set up for my PW reservoir to use for my bathroom system. Maybe it was a fluke, because when I loaded the game the Dupes finally did it.

[Kabrute]

it is mass positive under a light though not 10%

nvm it just took a minute to get up to speed. 

[TheScaryOne]

Been complaining about these for a while, glad they're taking a crack at balancing them. Sad that it's MORE STUFF NOT IN THE PATCH NOTES.  (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻) 

 

Edit: Also I'm having a very hard time with sweep and bottling orders in general with the MK1 update.

[Grimgaw]

1 hour ago, TheScaryOne said:

Sad that it's MORE STUFF NOT IN THE PATCH NOTES.  (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)

'Patch' isn't out yet. It's a preview. Be glad that they threw together an overview of features, because that's already generous.