Zephyr4IK Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 This is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsp98 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, LionelWinchester said: Wilson state it in the game that he know Willow, so probably it'll be mixed. Maybe WX was one of his creation ? Wickerbottom's the annoying lady across the street ? idk, i'm high of blue shrooms right now. Wickerbottom might have been messing with the books Maxwell was borrowing from her library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhareth Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 15 hours ago, shawshank said: Warlie counting, that Wiliam convert to Maxwell, Charly could convert to Malificient or so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelWinchester Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 21 minutes ago, 9screamingkittens said: wait, what? When Wilson examine Willow's Lighter he said "It was her lucky match" - or some sort, hinting he knows him before he got transported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaterion Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, LionelWinchester said: When Wilson examine Willow's Lighter he said "It was her lucky match" - or some sort, hinting he knows him before he got transported her* you keep using "him" for a female when it should be "her", just sayin.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
378139_1452783892 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 LOL! 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LionelWinchester Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, Aquaterion said: her* you keep using "him" for a female when it should be "her", just sayin.. ahaha i was replying while playing dst, so have to make the reply quick and sweet - don't have much time to think about grammar. Beside, i only did it once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilys48 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 LIGHTER = "It's her lucky lighter." found it in Wilson's speech file, I suppose that's what LionelWinchester is referring to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhareth Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 thoughts about lore: nor Willson nether Maxwell must be first prisoners of that world. That could be Wilbur nert Wodlegs (in very past, and then they was hibernated for a long) and Walany and Warlie looks more modern than Wilson and co. (serf board preaty new thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Dhareth said: thoughts about lore: nor Willson nether Maxwell must be first prisoners of that world. That could be Wilbur nert Wodlegs (in very past, and then they was hibernated for a long) and Walany and Warlie looks more modern than Wilson and co. (serf board preaty new thing) Maxwell probably is though. Remember? When he got there all there was was void, dust, and "them"(shadow creatures). He made this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tainted-Petals Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, AnonymousKoala said: Maxwell probably is though. Remember? When he got there all there was was void, dust, and "them"(shadow creatures). He made this world. But his in game speech files negate that. He couldn't have been the first there (though the hall he's in might have been the dust, shadows and void he mentions) I say this because he has no idea who made Marble Pillars, merm were there before he was, and we have him make other references to things he has no idea about, implying that he's lying about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Tainted-Petals said: But his in game speech files negate that. He couldn't have been the first there (though the hall he's in might have been the dust, shadows and void he mentions) I say this because he has no idea who made Marble Pillars, merm were there before he was, and we have him make other references to things he has no idea about, implying that he's lying about that. Not saying it's relevant, but Charlie seems to have a thing for marble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tainted-Petals Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, Zeklo said: Not saying it's relevant, but Charlie seems to have a thing for marble. Well to be fair, those marble pillars, merms and other things I mentioned sort of where around in the first DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 But his in game speech files negate that. He couldn't have been the first there (though the hall he's in might have been the dust, shadows and void he mentions) I say this because he has no idea who made Marble Pillars, merm were there before he was, and we have him make other references to things he has no idea about, implying that he's lying about that. I was alwaysd under the impression he made most of the world, with Them changing things here and there, aka, the merms and pillars. 1 minute ago, Zeklo said: Not saying it's relevant, but Charlie seems to have a thing for marble. O **** you got a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Tainted-Petals said: Well to be fair, those marble pillars, merms and other things I mentioned sort of where around in the first DS Hence why I said "Not saying it's relevant." Thought to be fair as well. Charlie has always existed. Just as the Grue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth143 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 You guys realize that Charlie could've appeared to Maxwell while he was on the throne but it's implied that she never did, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhareth Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, AnonymousKoala said: Maxwell probably is though. Remember? When he got there all there was was void, dust, and "them"(shadow creatures). He made this world. before him world could be another (remember SW) and could become dust, being forbiden for a long (monkey could be creature from ancient myth time, and world forbiden for centeries, before Maxwell arive) (and remember, few things was here before Maxwell) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahlsen Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Quoth143 said: You guys realize that Charlie could've appeared to Maxwell while he was on the throne but it's implied that she never did, right? That's a question I didn't dare to ask, why didn't she free him ? Hard feelings ? I read here that she wasn't necessarily angry at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth143 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, Bahlsen said: That's a question I didn't dare to ask, why didn't she free him ? Hard feelings ? I read here that she wasn't necessarily angry at him. I don't know, those lines said in Maxwell's speech lua kind of says a lot about her feelings towards him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaterion Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Do we know if Charlie was next to him on the throne helping him out or something similar? I know we didn't see this, but it could be a possibility no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Aquaterion said: Do we know if Charlie was next to him on the throne helping him out or something similar? I know we didn't see this, but it could be a possibility no? It's a possibility that's crossed my mind. Then she might be mad at him for leaving the throne, because by extension leaving her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somsnosa Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Quoth143 said: You guys realize that Charlie could've appeared to Maxwell while he was on the throne but it's implied that she never did, right? Maybe he changed her?? That explains why he knew the Grue was her and why he's always apologizing... he knows what he did (but he was probably under the influence of THEM...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (I was going to make a summary thread but...) Regarding the issue of Maxwell turning Charlie into the Grue... I have to say NO O__O If you remember the video "The Final Act", you can see that both of them were forced into the book... He loved Charlie, but only he could resist They're total influence... Now what I believe is, that Charlie, being mortal, had no chance against Their will and so, was corrupted, and became Their puppet... Maxwell did not want the one he loved to become the Night Monster.. but he had no choice... his regret when inspecting the Codex Umbra says it all... now, to the current puzzle... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maxwell only had his power because of the throne and the Codex Umbra... As it stands... or in this case, sits, Charlie, even without the throne... was able to manipulate shadows and open portals... she herself was given shadow powers... even without the throne or the book... she had the power of the NIght Monster... But the payment was too steep... herself... her very being... her personality... her sanity... They had now owned her... But what I loved about the video is... at the end... her two conflicting sides... merged into one... the Grue and Charlie, both conflicted, fighting for the right to dominate... became one... She now has both aspects of Charlie, the one who had compassion, who loved Maxwell... And the Night Monster... destined to hunt down the puppets for They're enjoyment... she was theirs now... Though she is not bound to the Nightmare Throne like the previous puppet master, Maxwell... They give her free reign... Her powers are not bound to the throne... she was now both the Night Monster and The Puppet Master... Though still bound to this world... Her freedom is more than the survivors... With her now being One... what could be the fates of the survivors? [end scene] (I kinda have more to say but leaving it open-ended sounded good XD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (Had to edit the post and add more stuff so please refresh if you want to read the whole thing O__O) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MycoLogical Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 So is New Reigh a DLC/update? Does it come before or after Through the Ages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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