MycoLogical Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 BACKSTORIES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, MycoLogical said: BACKSTORIES!!! YES! INDEED, AT LAST! IT'S BEEN SO BADLY NEEDED But this leaves me with a question. Who's the Grue now if Charlie is controlling it all? Does she manifest herself on the islands to retain that whole shtick? Which I think anyone on the throne is capable of. Or is the theory about there being more than one Grue accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MycoLogical Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, Silentdarkness1 said: YES! INDEED, AT LAST! IT'S BEEN SO BADLY NEEDED But this leaves me with a question. Who's the Grue now if Charlie is controlling it all? Does she manifest herself on the islands to retain that whole shtick? Which I think anyone on the throne is capable of. Or is the theory about there being more than one Grue accurate? It's been three years; but we are finally getting into the meat and potatoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 More like Meaty Stew, amirite o3o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4T3RGR3NAD3R Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It kind of bugs me how we spent so much time with the jury rigged portal but in the comc it only worked once before floridization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisbird Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Gyths said: Wow mate, that's some pretty deep shnazz you went on there. I anticipate DST Adventure mode (if it ever becomes true) as the struggle to fight Charlie (The new villain of the DS franchise, perhaps?)-- or maybe, the actually truth of the matter? I think DST Adventure mode, or whatever the equivalent ends up being, won't be them struggling to fight Charlie. It'll be the survivors trying to break Charlie free of Their influence and then, whenever the end game happens (whether in DST or in some later expansion), it will focus on taking on Them. After all, Charlie's not the real villain any more than Maxwell was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maslak Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Wanted to make one last joke, extremely funny, but... I forgot what I wanted to say. Darn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Well of course. That's what I meant by TLoS: ANB shenanigans. Not fighting to stop her, but fighting to free her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkoun Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 There's something that doesn't add up though... My understanding is that Maxwell was released first, and then Wilson was released by Charlie moments after that- However, the puzzle clearly shows that Wilson had been camping a few days before Maxwell had come through the portal on the first panel. Furthermore, Maxwell should have awoken beside his Door upon being released. On the assumption that this isn't a "time works differently here" thing, one explanation for the time gap is that the portal we see in the first frame is Maxwell reentering adventure mode- hence why we don't see the door as he appears. If we assume that a few days passed before he did so, that would also explain how Wilson managed to set himself up before Maxwell arrived. This might seem like a tiny detail, but it does raise some important points. Firstly, why did Maxwell come back? (Charlie talks about how Maxwell "hasn't escaped it's pull" of the nightmare throne, but maybe he's trying to right what Wilson did?) Why is Wilson still inside Maxwells door? (Presumably Charlie intentionally left him inside adventure mode, but was that out of pity or was it because it's easier to influence things closer to the throne?) Since the jury rigged portal is built inside Maxwells door, does that mean DST takes place inside adventure mode? I dunno, probably doesn't matter- just seemed like an interesting idea :V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I think it's possible that the camp was set up before Wilson went through the Adventure Mode portal, and it was still there when he got kicked back by Charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaAtia Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Honestly I think Charlie IS the villain. Atleast this form of her. She didn't feel pity for Wilson like how Wilson felt for Maxwell. She wanted two things. Power and Revenge. Charlie knew she could gain this from the Nightmare Throne. She followed Wilson this entire time so he could clear the dangerous path to Maxwell and all she has to do is just wait for the perfect moment to strike. When someone inexperienced is on the throne. Wilson was just that. Notice how the shadows didn't have to force her in like how it does when a character gets to the throne, she casually made her way up. She orchestrated this entire coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, AquaAtia said: Notice how the shadows didn't have to force her in like how it does when a character gets to the throne, she casually made her way up. I think that's because Charlie is "part shadows". So to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaAtia Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, Zeklo said: I think that's because Charlie is "part shadows". So to speak. Yeah that's definitely true however she exactly knew what she was getting into yet she still did it. She didn't spare a second to think it over. Also now that I think about it. Did the Good version of Charlie saved Wilson by instead of flat out killing him, sent him back to the Don't Starve World. Unless in the lore, it's akin to the game where you just get sent back anyways if you die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, Zeklo said: I think that's because Charlie is "part shadows". So to speak. This. She's one of THEM. They won't argue against one of their own taking the throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaAtia Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Silentdarkness1 said: This. She's one of THEM. They won't argue against one of their own taking the throne. I was thinking about that. Do you think Maxwell is actually the hero by sitting on the throne instead of Them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 There is no hero here. He's on the throne as a result of his own foolish mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaAtia Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Silentdarkness1 said: There is no hero here. He's on the throne as a result of his own foolish mistakes. Yeah you're correct. Anyways, new question to discuss. What will the world look like now with a member of THEM on the throne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoshiEmblem Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Silentdarkness1 said: There is no hero here. He's on the throne as a result of his own foolish mistakes. "I came here to practice dark magic and I'm honestly feeling so attacked right now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Well, I think it might end up looking more 'developed', generally. Charlie seems to love neo-classical structures with vines and corruption and stuff all over it now. Something extravagant. Although honestly, i'm not expecting too many serious in-game changes as far as gameplay is concerned, because the balance in-game is tender enough without making a hundred different changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulingu Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 This timeline was posted by @Kevin on Sep 26 2014: 1890s - 1906: William Carter origin story1906: William and Charlie enter the DS world. 1906 - 1910ish: Some crazy stuff happens that we haven't told you about yet.... 1910ish - 1921: The various playable characters get pulled into the DS world.1921: Wilson gets pulled in (Forbidden Knowlege trailer).*THE ORIGINAL GAME + ROG STARTS HERE*?: Wilson lives in DSworld for a while. Dies a lot, eventually finds Maxwell's door and confronts Maxwell?: Wilson replaces Maxwell on the Nightmare Throne, Maxwell becomes Waxwell.?: Some other crazy stuff happens that we haven't told you about yet.... ?: The DST plotline begins Kevin, are you planning on updating it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoshiEmblem Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I feel like around the other characters are getting pulled into the game, Wilson is slowly becoming more isolated from his family/ everybody around him, leading him to live alone in the woods. This is around the time religion and science first started having major conflicts, since Darwin's Theory of Evolution was gaining momentum, and was causing fractions between those that were and weren't religious. Possibly why he was another good candidate for Maxwell; someone who was trying to make advancements to amend the fact that he had been neglected from everybody else in his life for what he had chosen to believe in. Could also explain why he was so happy to see Charlie; for once, somebody was genuinely smiling and being nice to/around him. But, ah, that's mostly what I like to imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagle Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 22 hours ago, Ajosen said: maybe clicking on the H,E,I,R in charlie. or the roses on those letter boxes? MY FRIEND, YOU SOLVED THE FINAL PUZZLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaAtia Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 What confuses me is that wasn't there a comic (around the time DST was announced) where Wilson built the Together Portal before Charlie took the throne, not him and Maxwell? Are we just going to disregard that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battal Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Miss said: This timeline was posted by @Kevin on Sep 26 2014: 1890s - 1906: William Carter origin story1906: William and Charlie enter the DS world. 1906 - 1910ish: Some crazy stuff happens that we haven't told you about yet.... 1910ish - 1921: The various playable characters get pulled into the DS world.1921: Wilson gets pulled in (Forbidden Knowlege trailer).*THE ORIGINAL GAME + ROG STARTS HERE*?: Wilson lives in DSworld for a while. Dies a lot, eventually finds Maxwell's door and confronts Maxwell?: Wilson replaces Maxwell on the Nightmare Throne, Maxwell becomes Waxwell.?: Charlie removes Wilson from the throne and takes her place on it.?: The DST plotline begins That's where I'd place these events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Artifact Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, AquaAtia said: What confuses me is that wasn't there a comic (around the time DST was announced) where Wilson built the Together Portal before Charlie took the throne, not him and Maxwell? Are we just going to disregard that one? Actually, that comic displays exactly the same scenario.... just that Maxwell is standing slightly offscreen earlier in the topic, somebody posted them side by side, and you could see that it really was the exact same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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