HeilerderWelten Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Hi Klei and Forum Members (and folkes of Capy, if you visit the DST part of the Forum) ^__^ Since ROG and Caves got added to DST, I really love it the most of all Don't Starve experiences. Personally I play DST most of the time alone (or with my wife), especially when I want to play more than 4 seasons and DST is my preferred version of the game. There are several reasons why I like DST more than DS ROG: - Beefalo riding - collecting items with spacebar, even if you have an item on the mouse cursor - digging up tree sapplings for twigs - a more natural generated world (the bioms seem bigger and more natural placed) - more contend in caves (Hutch, mushroom spider spawners, etc.), more creatures (Ewecus), more items (brush, saddle, moonwalls, etc.) - for my taste a better balanced Woodie - and the most important part, many creatures have double or even more health, that provides a bigger challenge than singleplayer if you play solo But there is one big part of DS ROG Singleplayer missing in DST, there is no Summer giant, that forces you to prepare for it in Summer. Now my suggestion: Klei, please consider that the Dragonfly visites 1 of the player bases (maybe the biggest one, or the one nearest to the magma biom) on a random day of summer. You have 5 choices to "deal" with her: 1. Put 20 ashes near the Dragonfly on the ground, she will eat it and falls asleep, she will return to her magma biom after she awakes. 2. Fight! Do atleast 1750-2500 damage and she will fall on the ground and drops a Dragon Scale, she will fly back to her magma biom. 3. Lure her in other mobs, sleeping Beargers, Tentacles, Pigs, Tree Guards until she looses 1750-2500 health and dropes her Scale. 4. Ignore her, she will burn down trees, gras, bushes, maybe your base, after eating 20 ashes, she will return to her magma biom. 5. Die... than point 4 will happen I guess. ^_^ You can only get her gold, gems, meat, her egg and the fame if you kill her 27500 health version in the magma biom, but atleast you have something special to do in summer and you can get 1 Scale, to craft a Scale Mail for the big rumble with her babys. Just look at her, she is so sad... at the moment everybody just ignores her because she is green. T__T I guess most people hate the Dragonfly, but if we are all honest, 20 ashes is not much to pacify her, and if she would visit you atleast 1 time in a year, summer would finally get a little bit more identity back. Thanks for your time folks. ^_^ (Picture: "No one loves Dragonfly" by keterok) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PillsStealer Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I agree, one of the reasons what made summer difficult in normal don't starve was the dragonfly. Now, you can easily skip summer and go to the caves. However, maybe include a new type of boss or nerf the dragonfly. A 27500 health boss going to a player by himself doesn't seem fun at all. Right now summer is quite dull and boring, (I go to caves and try to find the Ruins). Lets get some more excitement by having a monster come and murder us. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-740239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeilerderWelten Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 14 minutes ago, PillsStealer said: I agree, one of the reasons what made summer difficult in normal don't starve was the dragonfly. Now, you can easily skip summer and go to the caves. However, maybe include a new type of boss or nerf the dragonfly. A 27500 health boss going to a player by himself doesn't seem fun at all. Right now summer is quite dull and boring, (I go to caves and try to find the Ruins). Lets get some more excitement by having a monster come and murder us. That beeing said in the scenario above, she would only have 1750-2500 health and after loosing that amount of health, she would go back to her magma biom. I actually like her as a boss, so it would be sad in my opinion, to take the Summer Giant title away from her. ...that beeing said, I like her enraged form a bit more... she looks dangerous as heck when she burns in anger. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-740245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 AAAAHHH This drawing is adorable!! Poor Dragonfly though @__@Then again, she can decimate all of them at once so I don't really know what to feel about this anymore XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-740541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethlin Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Yeah I would like a summer giant, whether it be a new one or making the dragonfly the summer one again and adding a new desert boss. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-740644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangStarrWoWp Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 15 hours ago, HeilerderWelten said: There are several reasons why I like DST more than DS ROG: - Beefalo riding - collecting items with spacebar, even if you have an item on the mouse cursor - digging up tree sapplings for twigs - a more natural generated world (the bioms seem bigger and more natural placed) - more contend in caves (Hutch, mushroom spider spawners, etc.), more creatures (Ewecus), more items (brush, saddle, moonwalls, etc.) All of these should be in DS RoG in the first place. It sounds like they decided put in more time into DST and gave DS RoG less attention in return. I have had zero issues with DST but everytime I play DS RoG I run into all sorts of bugs (bugs that have been reported and have still not been fixed). I don't see why they can't make both games good aside from just not wanting to 'waste' time on the singleplayer game to make it just as decent. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-740655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi01 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 If dragonfly would leave the desert in summer, she shouldn't burn things down when players don't fight her. That was one of the main reasons why she got moved into the desert. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphKastro Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I haven't been watching the streams, so I don't know the inside stuff of what is happening, but I noticed the devs are rather quiet these days about gameplay. I can only wonder(and bribe @nome for answers) what is happening behind the curtains. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted March 30, 2016 Developer Share Posted March 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, RalphKastro said: I can only wonder(and bribe @nome for answers) what is happening behind the curtains. Through the Ages? I heard they'll be revealing a bit more about it soon... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer nome Posted March 30, 2016 Developer Share Posted March 30, 2016 2 hours ago, RalphKastro said: and bribe @nome for answers Ooh, ooh, what're you going to bribe me with??? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedChris Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, nome said: Ooh, ooh, what're you going to bribe me with??? One of my drawings, enjoy it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiddyGuy Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Chris1488 said: One of my drawings, enjoy it. Omg that is super cool looking @Chris1488! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serph Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 In big servers (+8 people), it's common to see multiple bases for different groups of players, having a super giant going after 1 arbitrary group on a random summer day while the others stay fine isn't fair. At least Deerclops gives a long warning, Bearger isn't naturally agressive and Goose/Goose can't wreck your base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonseye Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I still feel that the Ancient Guardian should be the huge hp boss, and Dragonfly should have been just a normal giant, but what's done is done. But since the Dragonfly most likely isn't going to be changing, what w/ the resources put into giving her a unique biome, I would still absolutely love for the Ancient Guardian to be an even harder challenge than DST Dragonfly, perhaps w/ some new added mechanics for the fight. Also, give us a new Summer giant to fight! ...man, I sound pretty demanding. I don't mean to be. : / Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerelyMelly Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 51 minutes ago, nome said: Ooh, ooh, what're you going to bribe me with??? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyD Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I suggest we bribe him with art and likes to his post, shower him in the loving warmth of forum love. XD now @nome cough up the answers! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer nome Posted March 31, 2016 Developer Share Posted March 31, 2016 Well, quite a few of us doing the final stages of getting Shipwrecked out the door - that releases pretty soon you know, and DS releases take a SHOCKING amount of effort! Several of us are hard at work on PS4, trying to get that into everyone's hands as soon as possible. DST has to release, so some of us are finishing off the remaining things to make that happen. There's this skinny, dapper guy who's very demanding about not being left out of the fun anymore. Vito of course has to develop the entire game by himself Then there's a fair few folks who're hard at work on stuff I can't tell you about. And finally there's me, on occasion I find time away from goofing off on the forums to work on a little gift for our loyal fans. And also boring stuff involving databases. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celophone Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, nome said: There's this skinny, dapper guy who's very demanding about not being left out of the fun anymore. MAXWELL IS THAT YOU?! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, nome said: There's this skinny, dapper guy who's very demanding about not being left out of the fun anymore. 14 minutes ago, nome said: a little gift for our loyal fans MAXWELL AND LOYAL SKINS!! ... 17 minutes ago, nome said: DST has to release, so some of us are finishing off the remaining things to make that happen. 17 minutes ago, nome said: Then there's a fair few folks who're hard at work on stuff I can't tell you about. TtA?! O__O Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soto8969 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 45 minutes ago, nome said: Well, quite a few of us doing the final stages of getting Shipwrecked out the door - that releases pretty soon you know, and DS releases take a SHOCKING amount of effort! Several of us are hard at work on PS4, trying to get that into everyone's hands as soon as possible. DST has to release, so some of us are finishing off the remaining things to make that happen. There's this skinny, dapper guy who's very demanding about not being left out of the fun anymore. Vito of course has to develop the entire game by himself Then there's a fair few folks who're hard at work on stuff I can't tell you about. And finally there's me, on occasion I find time away from goofing off on the forums to work on a little gift for our loyal fans. And also boring stuff involving databases. Are you giving Potato Cups? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohaneBrote Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 9 hours ago, nome said: And also boring stuff involving databases. DATABASES!? What kind of databases!? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanandLink Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 10 hours ago, nome said: And finally there's me, on occasion I find time to be the most amazing klei dev that has ever existed, ever. I mean really! I helped that RyanandLink guy out with finding the problem of his lag! Oh, and also boring stuff involving batman, wigfrid, and that one guy that was puking down the sidewalk on the street the other day. Well said nome! I agree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer nome Posted March 31, 2016 Developer Share Posted March 31, 2016 2 hours ago, JohaneBrote said: DATABASES!? What kind of databases!? Why, I'm glad you asked! These days I'm splitting myself between fighting with various columnar datastores (redshift and bigquery to be precise) for analytics purposes and writing multi-stage-commit rules for dynamodb to give us transactionality when the database itself only provides full ACID semantics on a per-row basis. To give an example that doesn't reveal upcoming things, with the trade-inn as it stands today we have to modify 10 different rows in an effectively atomic fashion or we would wind up with nasty race conditions that could either steal people's items or give them too many (which believe you me we see naughty people trying to trigger all day long in our logs!) but since dynamodb provides no native transaction support and the generic transaction library amazon wrote imposes unacceptable levels of overhead and is written in the wrong language for us, we do it ourselves with multi-stage commits. First we create your new trade-inn item in an "embryonic" state where it can't actually be used, and reference within it which other items are to be ground for its creation. Now here's where it gets interesting - should that first step fail we've effectively done nothing, so no need to recover from that condition, but assuming that this first step succeeds we now begin a two stage idempotent process. First we go through all nine source items and... hey, why is everyone asleep? 1 hour ago, RyanandLink said: And finally there's me, on occasion I find time to be the most amazing klei dev that has ever existed, ever. I mean really! D'awwwww, I love it when you guys lie on my behalf. Almost as much as I love bribes! Speaking of, no need to stop with the bribes just because I already spilled the beans. So far I've only told you guys about the DS/DST team.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 1 minute ago, nome said: D'awwwww, I love it when you guys lie on my behalf. Almost as much as I love bribes! Speaking of, no need to stop with the bribes just because I already spilled the beans. So far I've only told you guys about the DS/DST team.... 2 minutes ago, nome said: nasty race conditions that could either steal people's items or give them too many (which believe you me we see naughty people trying to trigger all day long in our logs!) *cough* Do those logs happen to say someone's IP address? <.< ... Not that I've tried or anything O__O Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanandLink Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 "Oh Igniculus, fly on by With the help of the cool Nome we shall find the highest of high." - "Arrg! Is that the antagönist tö Nöme's saga? " - Must I go on? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/65846-dragonfly-visits-your-base-in-summer/#findComment-741830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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