Roosev Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 All of those suggestions are pretty good.What about Wendy though?I think that she either should have more base sanity or it should lower slower.I mean, if she knows that supernatural kind of stuff exists, she probably shouldn't be as startled.P.S: What about adding eyes to the female characters? I think that they look soulless without them ;p Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticFox789 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 All of those suggestions are pretty good.What about Wendy though?I think that she either should have more base sanity or it should lower slower.I mean, if she knows that supernatural kind of stuff exists, she probably shouldn't be as startled.P.S: What about adding eyes to the female characters? I think that they look soulless without them ;pLook at the DS style about eyes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVexon Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 BALLOONS!!!!!Wes will be awesome! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotheran Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Maxwell should be able to summon his own hounds. A new class of hound called shadow hounds.Actually all things considered Maxwell's realm is not actually the shadows. That's his Malefactors' realm, as Maxwell's examine text of most of the cave stuff suggests, only what's in the light of the sun is within Maxwell's view and grasp. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.MonsterMeat Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 A quick suggestion for Woodie I thought of (if he gets implemented):Pros: *Treeguards fight for him, at a small cost of sanity*Starts off with a luxury axe OR *Fire fuel lasts longer (can't decide, pick the one you like best)Cons:*Lower max sanity*Sanity goes down while having living logs in inventoryFeedback is appreciated Tree guards fight for him? Really? Why would a tree guard fight for someone that has a living of CUTTING Trees! At the cost of "small" sanity! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Bard Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 flight make it happen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConeyKrab Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Maybe he studies trees or something, I don't know. Just a quick idea that I thought of.Too bad he's portrayed as an axe-wielding maniac of a lumberjack? People always seem to focus on mehtastic tree-cutting perks, overlooking the fact that he seems to have anger issues. Besides, it seems that the devs already know what they're doing with him.Also, back to Wendy; maybe in addition to having higher base sanity, rain could cause little-to-no detriment to her sanity? Considering that she is both goth and rather poetic, I'd think rain would be her ideal weather. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avarwen Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) Hey Wendy players...Tell me about all of the things that annoy you about Abigail!She could be a little faster her lagging behind can be a pain when you are trying kill things since she tends to show up after the monster is dead.The random appearances can be a pain after a while, I'd like to be able to summon her maybe I could craft a bow that summons her and as you mentioned she should have a cool down time after that maybe every three days.Give her more HP she's too easy to kill once a monster targets her I'd also like her to do more damage 20 or 25 would be good and to balance it out maybe her attack speed could be a little slower than Wendy's.The fact that she can hurt you can be a pain as well maybe I could craft a friendship bracelet that degrades over time but keeps her from harming me or other friendly creatures in my employ. Edited June 17, 2013 by Avarwen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximum124 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Maybe he studies trees or something, I don't know. Just a quick idea that I thought of.Or maybe hes the LORAX IN DISGUISE[ATTACH=CONFIG]9283[/ATTACH]I'm not funny 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrD518 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Maxwell and Wolfgang should be able to grow beards! Maxwell should begin to lose his dapperness as his beard grows, cuz it makes him less dapper!- - - Updated - - -Maxwell and Wolfgang should be able to grow beards! Maxwell should begin to lose his dapperness as his beard grows, cuz it makes him less dapper! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximum124 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Maxwell and Wolfgang should be able to grow beards! Maxwell should begin to lose his dapperness as his beard grows, cuz it makes him less dapper!- - - Updated - - -Maxwell and Wolfgang should be able to grow beards! Maxwell should begin to lose his dapperness as his beard grows, cuz it makes him less dapper!I don't think thats gonna happen, mainly because growing a beard is Wilson's perk and what sets him apart from the other characters.(plus puny beard hairs do not grow on Wolfgang's mighty skin) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumpy Treeguard Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 you guys think that inifinate lighter is op?, her sanity is lower, and since the low radius of light, it will cause her sanity to drop hella fast in the night. so hope you dont mind going insane in order to survive 1 night without wasting resources Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpNomo Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I want to see how easy Adventure Mode gets with WX-78. Seeing as how there are so many clockworks, you would easily get to the max within the first 3 levels at most. A Cold Reception would pretty much be game over, though. You'd have to find pig skin, stat! And a science/alchemy machine. I am not sure it would even be possible to make an umbrella before the rain would drain you of your 100 starting health. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I want to see how easy Adventure Mode gets with WX-78. Seeing as how there are so many clockworks, you would easily get to the max within the first 3 levels at most. A Cold Reception would pretty much be game over, though. You'd have to find pig skin, stat! And a science/alchemy machine. I am not sure it would even be possible to make an umbrella before the rain would drain you of your 100 starting health.Perhaps you could start out with the umbrella blueprint? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpNomo Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Perhaps you could start out with the umbrella blueprint?That is a good idea. But it might be op if you get it as all characters. If they made it so that only WX-78 started with the blueprint (because of his special weakness to rain), then it would help balance it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jac Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) Hey Wendy players...Tell me about all of the things that annoy you about Abigail!1. Slow. Even without walking cane or road, Wendy still needs to wait often for Abigail to catch up, or else Abigail will just get lost. I could use that time to gather more resources, but doesn't help when I am trying to get to a place before night comes (extremely dangerous if I try to get Abigail across a swamp alive). In addition, if Abigail accidentally move through a beefalo, the slowness + AoE damage means she will grab all the herd's aggro, without hope of ever shrugging them off. All she wanted is to play with her sister. :(2. AI is glitchy at times. Abigail sometimes just sits then when you ordered attack a monster close to her. She also backs away after attacking higher hp targets for a while. This occurs most often when attacking spiders (won't move onto a close spider after killing the first few, have to move her further from spider to attack again), and spider nest (backs away even with Wendy standing out of the web).3. Some area doesn't spawn Abigail at all.4. Kills your small birds. I can actually live with the unpredictable spawns, critter murders, and slow movements if there's a better maneuverability. Such as a move command (which can be used on pigs too, as they are intelligent) to a place close by (about the distance you update objects into your map). -Pigs will still run straight towards hostile monster and attack them on sight, including Abigail.-As for Abigail, she can still kill your small birds if you're not careful; but you can actually move her out of the small birds' way now (small birds aren't that intelligent, so move command won't affect them). -If you're not using the move command, or is too far from Abigail, she will just resume follower mode, which can result in all sorts of drama. Now, although it's still annoying that she spawns on unwanted times, you can put in the effort to make sure she doesn't mess things up for you.*Move command won't be an issue to having pig followers during dusk / night as the pigs auto-aggro on Abigail as soon as she spawn. The only change with move command is that you can move Abigail to the pig(s) you want to prioritize.*Ctrl + right click isn't used as of now, could be used for move command.**Maybe add in that when you are way too far from Abigail (via walking much faster), she will randomly aggro nearby monsters and bring them to you. XD Edited June 16, 2013 by Jac Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepys Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 The stat boost thing for W78 sounds cool but i like the weather function but if your gonna give w78 so many cool features your gonna have to up your game for everyone else and go diablo 2 on us klei Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepys Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 you also forgot how she already is immune to the charlie i think she is getting nerfed slightly for the added fun of more fire, and ps look at what W78 ( who is already the best character) PS. we can has wickerbottom buff ;D Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalShotgun Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 When balancing Wickerbottom, I think it would be interesting to keep her focus on crafting and, somehow through her intellect and books, gains the ability to lower or, in some cases, even eliminate the amount of certain ingredients you need for some things. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MycoLogical Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 When balancing Wickerbottom, I think it would be interesting to keep her focus on crafting and, somehow through her intellect and books, gains the ability to lower or, in some cases, even eliminate the amount of certain ingredients you need for some things.Welcome!that does seem to be a common request and I am all for it...but I think she needs something with a bit more...'ooof' Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalShotgun Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Welcome!that does seem to be a common request and I am all for it...but I think she needs something with a bit more...'ooof'Perhaps a breakdown system that returns the components of an item, with durability items giving you varying amounts based on the durability of the item? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumina Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 For Wickerbottom, i love the idea she could craft items only obtained by loot.As a slurtle helmet, a tentacle spike, this sort of things.Maybe as a little advantage. It lack of something greater. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticFox789 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Just noticed that with the upcoming WX-78 change, my craftable Gears mod is gonna be way too OP... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticFox789 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 The stat boost thing for W78 sounds cool but i like the weather function but if your gonna give w78 so many cool features your gonna have to up your game for everyone else and go diablo 2 on us kleiTHE NEW CHAR IS REVEALED!It's WX-78's brother, W78! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MycoLogical Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 THE NEW CHAR IS REVEALED!It's WX-78's brother, W78!Be nice; don't tease Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/19/#findComment-207877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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