NoodlemanNed Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I was playing with the beta and noticed that the ui for the new inspiration thing applied to wigfrid (not wilson). Is this just a bug or will there be a possibility of every character getting their own set of customizable perks? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just-guy Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I think they just updated the character inspect UI. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twitchgabo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I hope they do. It would be AMAZING Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell_winters Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I think the tree was a compromise between keeping Wilson beginner-friendly and giving him late game stuff, so that newbies won't have access to irri gems and cheap marble. Other characters don't need it and it would be pretty annoying. Imagine if Wicker lost the ability to craft her books and you had to replay the game basics with her to regain them back. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, maxwell_winters said: I think the tree was a compromise between keeping Wilson beginner-friendly and giving him late game stuff, so that newbies won't have access to irri gems and cheap marble. Other characters don't need it and it would be pretty annoying. Imagine if Wicker lost the ability to craft her books and you had to replay the game basics with her to regain them back. I can’t play the beta so I can’t accurately judge how the Wilson Rework actually works, but.. I have played every other rework and most of them (If not all of them..) follow the same pattern: The reworks made the character need to gather resources they originally did NOT Need or fill up inventory spaces with new craftable items. (example Wendys Rework now has anyone who actually wants to EFFECTIVELY play Wendy strolling around in graveyards engaging in Wendy exclusive find lost stuffs mini games to obtain a Wendy Exclusive crafting ingredient (mourning glories) in order to craft and fill up your inventory slots  with Ectoherbology potions to use on Abigail. In addition to this: Wendy’s now also need to gather Ashes & Flower Petals to build Sisturns. Wickerbottom: A full Library of Books, Wolfgang: Work Gym Ingredients and Dumbells..) I’m on console and can’t play the Wilson Beta but I also don’t know how I feel about a character specific skill tree that does NOT having him needing to gather and fill his inventory up with resources or craftable items he didn’t originally need. This has been the trend of EVERYREWORK- Willows now need to seek out Beefalo Fur & Beard Hair, Hounds Teeth & Silk to craft Bernie Dolls and Sewing Kits. So I’m really confused as to why Wilson would have a Skill tree that persists through game saves.. or for that matter how it even works, and if it’s fair to other characters who need to now juggle a variety of resources around in their very limited inventory slots to get the most potential out of their reworked playstyles. I will not be able to accurately judge this information until this rework leaves Beta and arrives on Xbox consoles.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
july401 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Cool thoughts! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzzydzzy Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I absolutely think so. Joe mentioned the next roadmap is delayed due to it containing spoilers related to this next update. I have a feeling that the roadmap will involve a second wave of refreshes to all characters which will just involve them getting a skill tree with added progression and leveling up. WHICH I AM ALL FOR. Of course, this could also be related to the new boss that's been added but I don't understand how a vague description of a content update in the roadmap would be spoiled by the Wilson Refresh unless it involved skill trees for all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, dzzydzzy said: I absolutely think so. Joe mentioned the next roadmap is delayed due to it containing spoilers related to this next update. I have a feeling that the roadmap will involve a second wave of refreshes to all characters which will just involve them getting a skill tree with added progression and leveling up. WHICH I AM ALL FOR. Of course, this could also be related to the new boss that's been added but I don't understand how a vague description of a content update in the roadmap would be spoiled by the Wilson Refresh unless it involved skill trees for all. inb4 Wurt learns punch mining, chopping, and proper fish care Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatAndRun Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 My goodness, the possibilities... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornete Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, dzzydzzy said: I have a feeling that the roadmap will involve a second wave of refreshes to all characters which will just involve them getting a skill tree with added progression and leveling up I think I would be really disappointed if after several years of half the focus being on characters, that they decide to go over them, again. And I doubt it'll happen, the reworks were something even Klei had mentioned they were a bit tired of a while ago. I think the next roadmap spoiling the next update has to do with the giant Nightmare Werepig, Horror Fuel and Dread stone. These are pretty heavy lore-wise, and getting a whole new type of fuel after all these years I imagine has some pretty massive implications for the future of the game. I would guess the next arc focuses on a lot of nightmare related content, like how RoT focused on lunar content(to an extent). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosePapp Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I really hope they don't. Don't starve thrives on simple systems, newbies have a hard time getting everything as is. Besides, what could it accomplish? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzzydzzy Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Hornete said: I think the next roadmap spoiling the next update has to do with the giant Nightmare Werepig, Horror Fuel and Dread stone. I just don't understand how any of what you just said could be spoiled with the way Klei usually phrases their Roadmaps. In 2022 all we were told was Year of the Catcoon + 2023 "Year of the...." event Four Character refreshes ending in Q1 2023 Three QOL updates More Cawnival games and prizes Three "setting the stage" Content updates If they wanted to avoid spoilers it would have been very easy. What wouldn't be easy to hide are additional char refreshes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 hours ago, dzzydzzy said: I absolutely think so. Joe mentioned the next roadmap is delayed due to it containing spoilers related to this next update. I have a feeling that the roadmap will involve a second wave of refreshes to all characters which will just involve them getting a skill tree with added progression and leveling up. WHICH I AM ALL FOR. Of course, this could also be related to the new boss that's been added but I don't understand how a vague description of a content update in the roadmap would be spoiled by the Wilson Refresh unless it involved skill trees for all. that could be pretty nice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I hope not. Re-refreshes for those who need it desperately (Willow, Woodie, Winona, maybe Walter) Then focus on other things. While I love character refreshes I remember it being mentioned the devs were getting tired of it. There is also the little thing that some people (at least I assume more than me) look forward to the bigger updates rather than a refresh for a character they don't have any interest in playing. It is important to take a look at all the characters but once all of them are set in stone, the star of the show is what the survivors interact with within the Constant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Evelo said: Woodie, Winona Winona first. Which would be synchronicity. Going from the one that started it all to the character who started off the investigation in Together("next of kin"). We might finally get a comic and more in world uses for the idols if they did some more tweaks for Woodie. I'd love to see the idols given a use in a short or comic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Maxwell's skills will let him chop trees and mine rocks with his chin. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowick Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I personally think this would be incredible, a skill tree system in Don't Starve has endless potential throughout the cast! Imagine a skill for Willow that would allow her to refuel her lighter! A skill tree for Winona that could upgrade her catapults and spotlight! AAAAA Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, KM_Harrowick said: I personally think this would be incredible, a skill tree system in Don't Starve has endless potential throughout the cast! Imagine a skill for Willow that would allow her to refuel her lighter! A skill tree for Winona that could upgrade her catapults and spotlight! AAAAA maybe only Wilson would keep the perks/perk points between the worlds though? cause, as much as I love this idea, it could get a bit insane and even, excuse me for this one, "op", if some characters got even more power right from the day 1. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornge Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 The fact that you can use the tree before you spawn in with a button in the character menu basically confirms that this is going to affect the other characters. It's easy to imagine everyone having a button like that eventually. This being restricted to Wilson is like if only Wilson was allowed to wear skins Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Honestly if Winona gets perk tree with Wilson it could be cool. Like crafting more of walls or other structures, reduced costs on generators and building essentials? I dunno. Willow could benefit from a perk tree just so her bernie could be more buffed and work anytime she'd like him to. Maybe Warly and the food he makes he'd love even more to feel more filling and spices affecting him more. General comfort of a lot of characters you play could have perk trees, feeling like you're progressing as you play is nice. While I guess it's mostly solely a Wilson thing right now - his perks are kinda weird. Useful ig for newbies by a small margin while being useful swap character for pros? I'm kinda tired of swap characters tbf. I get there being one or two but myself I'd want those whom need some bit of work to have more meaning to wanting to play those characters. The only good ones right now I play I feel are Maxwell, Wanda, Wolfgang. Playing solo and trying to be efficient in time and things I wanna do is why I ever play those chars. At least those are my takes as one of fairly old players around here. Nice to have characters that feel nice and comfortable and it's annoying to waste time and not have fun while at it and ya'll know how much time this game can eat up when playing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanitar Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I hope no. I don't want this game to turn into an RPG, I want this game to remain uncompromising survival Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Ornge said: The fact that you can use the tree before you spawn in with a button in the character menu Or you know to be able to pick which perk you want to use before you start Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Ornge said: The fact that you can use the tree before you spawn in with a button in the character menu basically confirms that this is going to affect the other characters. It's easy to imagine everyone having a button like that eventually. This being restricted to Wilson is like if only Wilson was allowed to wear skins that is like saying that every character will get a beard and a personal item with skin because there are a beard menu and a "change inital item skin" button... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I sure hope not. This skill tree is by far the least Don't Starve thing they've ever done. Adding an AK would be about as fitting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_NiX Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Officially no. But people will probably mod it on their own, just to spice things up or to add progression system. I believe there was a leveling mod at some point. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146188-will-everyone-get-a-skill-tree/#findComment-1622391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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