[Suggestion Poll] Increasing marble shrub yield

[Juny Pear]

With the new Marbell™ being added for Wolfgang, as well as his negation of Marble suit's speed penalty when mighty, I figured I might make a suggestion poll on something I have been wondering for a while.

Marble shrub droprates. While marble can offer some very nice benefits, sadly the speed at which it is renewable is really slow and there is just a lot of decor options that are tied to marble, not to mention the marble suit that is (at least from my experiences currently) still fairly underutilized despite a relatively recent recipe change cutting the recipe in half.

I personally may not care as much for the benefits of marble suits but I do think they would be nice for Wolfgang players and I can never say no to more readily available decor options myself, so I figured I would ask in a poll what people think.

[O_Atoba_Azul]

Personally, reducing the amount of work needed is enough.

[lowercase skye]

i just wish marble beans were obtained in some way other than crafting marble into them... feel like its lame that to farm marble you simply craft marble into a marble seed that grows more marble

[Mr.Tarunio]

making it grow just a tad faster would make it nice.

[Maxil20]

The main things I would change is making it so tier 3 marble trees have the drop rates changed to guarantee a marble bean + marble with a 50% chance to get a second piece of marble, and making them grow a tad bit faster. 
 

It’s a bit funny the turf changes happened, since one of my biggest reasons I farmed marble in the first place was to get a lot of marble flooring, and farming it now will be much easier as you get 4 times as much with the same amount of effort. I certainly would like to see a bit of improvements to the shrubs still though, especially since marble armor is pretty important for Wolfgang.

[goblinball]

I remember in one megabase server I was in we had set up a big marble farm because we really needed marble for something (I can’t remember what, might’ve been statues or a farm or smth). We were able to get a ton of marble, however mining all the marble shrubs took soooooo long; it was just minutes of sitting there hearing the pickaxe mining noise over, over, and over as my character slowly whittled away at the army of marble shrubs. There are probably already a few ways to remedy this such as merms, however I didn’t have wurt unlocked at the time so mining for minutes at a time was what appeared to be the best option. Making shrubs give more marble would help remedy this issue and ensure players won’t have to go through the pains I did (or at least ensure they only need to go through a lessened version).

[BezKa]

I'd rather have them grow quicker. And on marble turf they could grow into the tall variant that naturally spawns in set pieces

[Cheggf]

Marble isn't a rare item that's difficult to get. If you smash the surface statues you can get like two stacks, then turning that into beans will give you approximately infinite marble, especially since its main use, flooring, now gives 4x as much for the same price. It's just really laborious to mine.

You can get infinite marble if you wait a long time for them to grow then put a real life weight on your spacebar as you lift real life weights for the several real life centuries it takes to harvest a field of marble shrubs. I'm fine with how it is now but wouldn't be opposed to changes that cut down on all that clang clang clang clanging you gotta do.

[omegapent]

what about more yield but require a living log for bean(s)?

[SinancoTheBest]

5 minutes ago, omegapent said:

what about more yield but require a living log for bean(s)?

ow dear Charlie no, can't have the marble trees be a drain on living logs, we need as much marble as we can get for marble suits, statues etc. I think the overall speed of growth and tediousness of the process is fine. It feels quite unique to the material and gives a good use to reanimated skeleton. Though it'd be great if, as Maxil said, fully grown shrubs had a 50% chance of dropping an extra marble so that the yield would require less "replanting half of the yield" like the old farms.

[Wonz]

It's more like time consuming in annoying way to farm. I can plant all I have wait 15 days and let bearger mine it then leave moleworms pick up marble while I pick up the beans. Much faster than pickaxe I just can't figure out how can it be OP to increase yields but for sure I can figure out it would save us tons of time so we can actually spend less time on tedious minning and picking up to have more fun instead.

[. . .]

It should drop at least +1 marble when it's in its 2nd and 3rd stage.

[SonicDen220]

No preference. I wouldn't mind more marble per harvest, but it's fine right now. I recommend dropping 1 gunpowder and planting several marble shrubs around it (you can plant 8 with geometric placement at least), I learned that from Jazzy. It's going to save you a ton of pickaxe uses and time. So, for the price of 5 gunpowder and a stack of marble, you can pretty much double your marble.

[SecretPizzaMan]

7 hours ago, SonicDen220 said:

No preference. I wouldn't mind more marble per harvest, but it's fine right now. I recommend dropping 1 gunpowder and planting several marble shrubs around it (you can plant 8 with geometric placement at least), I learned that from Jazzy. It's going to save you a ton of pickaxe uses and time. So, for the price of 5 gunpowder and a stack of marble, you can pretty much double your marble.

You can also use bearger.

[reallychina]

No. Marble is fine. It's supposed to be rare early game.

since growth rate is exponential, it's not rare either after a couple of harvests

[lakhnish]

33 minutes ago, reallychina said:

since growth rate is exponential, it's not rare either after a couple of harvests

If growth rate is exponential, then so is time spent mining the damn thing lol

[maradyne]

For flavor I would love if moon magic was involved in prototyping/crafting it, and that could be an exchange for granting marble faster/in larger amounts, but I'm certain that people would get angry over that change.

[SinancoTheBest]

36 minutes ago, ALCRD said:

Mining out a marble shrub farm without help of at least 2 Pigs/Merms is a big oof.

What are 2 pigs going to do? Watch you sweat, cheer you from behind as "friend" and scatter in panic when it's dusk? Didn't know they were capable of mining Marble Shrubs. Unless you're Wurt with trusty Merm aides ready on the double, Reanimated Skeleton and Shadow Thurible will be my preferred way of mining them. Before that's available, gold pickaxe manual labor it is, hope Warly added some sweeteners to the Asparagus Soup.

[ALCRD]

48 minutes ago, SinancoTheBest said:

What are 2 pigs going to do? Watch you sweat, cheer you from behind as "friend" and scatter in panic when it's dusk? Didn't know they were capable of mining Marble Shrubs. Unless you're Wurt with trusty Merm aides ready on the double, Reanimated Skeleton and Shadow Thurible will be my preferred way of mining them. Before that's available, gold pickaxe manual labor it is, hope Warly added some sweeteners to the Asparagus Soup.

Whaa? Pigs can't mine? Guess i confused Pigs with Merms i thought they were the same in that regard but nope Pigs can only chop trees. Merms can chop trees mine boulders , ice and marble shrubs. 

 Mandela Effect again.

EDIT:

Tho IMO pigs should be able to mine too.

They still wouldn't overshadow Merms due to fear of dark which greatly reduces labor time compared to Merms that aren't such pansies.