Wolfgang's Character Refresh is Coming Next Week!

[Milordo]

1 minute ago, Dextops said:

because kiting with a marble suit is stupid why not just wear a football helmet a marble suits purpose is to tank using it to kite makes no sense

Marbe suit protects more right? I could have more marble suits than football helmets, having more protection. Why should i tank, when i can kite with marble suit? Or i don't know, why not use them together? Why don't have more options in the game for more strategic gameplay?

But hey, you're the most well pro player in all Don't Starve toghether, you don't have skill issues like us, right?

[ArubaroBeefalo]

1 minute ago, Dextops said:

even if it does last longer it doesn't have enough incentive to actually maintain it

that is true and i hope klei adds more strongman perks to the mighty form (i, for personal taste, another downside than just more insanity from darkness)

[Dextops]

Just now, Milordo said:

Marbe suit protects more right? I could have more marble suits than football helmets, having more protection. Why should i tank, when i can kite with marble suit? Or i don't know, why not use them together? Why don't have more options in the game for more strategic gameplay?

But hey, you're the most well pro player in all Don't Starve toghether, you don't have skill issues like us, right?

because if you're kiting you shouldn't be getting hit in the first place

[ArubaroBeefalo]

Just now, Dextops said:

what?

"wanda has no downsides" "wolfgang is unplayable without speed" "wendy doesnt need micromanaging abigail hp" and many more

Just now, Dextops said:

because if you're kiting you shouldn't be getting hit in the first place

but if you get hit that armor is making you lose only 0.05% of damage and, since last a lot, you dont need to replace it as often as other armors

[Dextops]

Just now, ArubaroBeefalo said:

that is true and i hope klei adds more strongman perks to the mighty form (i, for personal taste, another downside than just more insanity from darkness)

if they do i think it should be the opposite for wimpy form to have even more reason to be mighty or above since speed is the most prominent topic ive been mentioning ill be using that as an example
speed up in mighty form
speed down in wimpy forn
gives more of a reason to stay out of wimpy form and gives more of a reason to be in mighty form so you actually have to actively work out or else you'll be a really bad character 

[Seero]

Just now, ArubaroBeefalo said:

"wanda has no downsides" "wolfgang is unplayable without speed" "wendy doesnt need micromanaging abigail hp" and many more

I think you misunderstand my meme

but yes wolfgang is unplayable without speed 

(i'm never gonna play him again)

without mods at least

someone make a mod that adds his speed when you go mighty pls

[Milordo]

5 minutes ago, Seero said:

 

I made this meme for fun, no hard feelings

@csc_unit

you should edit it with him eating all the threads about Wolfgang.

[Dextops]

1 minute ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

wanda has no downsides" "wolfgang is unplayable without speed" "wendy doesnt need micromanaging abigail hp" and many more

that has been one person at most my complaints have not been anything like this 

[ArubaroBeefalo]

Just now, Seero said:

I think you misunderstand my meme

but yes wolfgang is unplayable without speed 

(i'm never gonna play him again)

without mods at least

someone make a mod that adds his speed when you go mighty pls

no, no, i got it is just that i laught at my home imaging the same meme applied to the other comments, even more because of that the dude say "is so easy to manipulate people"

saying x2 speed is the same crime tho

1 minute ago, Dextops said:

that has been one person at most my complaints have not been anything like this 

wasnt just one person and i didnt say that you did it so dont defend yourself

[sudoku]

39 minutes ago, Ohan said:

What if the other survivors gained sanity while watching Wolfgang do his tricks on his gym?  

yeah there r several such group sanity perks like wendy walter and wes but i think it would be cute. The sanity could increase in relation to the heaviness of his weights. 

No offense but these types of sanity boosting perks are copouts when they run out of ideas and easily the weakest perks they can give a character

[Dextops]

2 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

wasnt just one person and i didnt say that you did it so dont defend yourself

just assumed since im the main person speaking out against mostly because i have no life and nothing better to do

[Milordo]

26 minutes ago, Orty97 said:

I like your points. But the new perk with armor just takes Wigfrid's role - tank-, isn't it?
 

Tecnically not. Wigfrid still has natural armor in her kit + armor + healing hitting enemies + normal healing + songs for healing and sanity.

This change for marble suit was only for only to be coherent to Wolf's design on having strong muscles. It's better to kite with marble suit.

[red_mars35]

Interesting rework, still i feel like he kinda lost some of his identity: he's not the highest dps, not the best tank, not the fastest

he's kinda good dps and kinda tanky but fast as everyone else with some minor buffs

[DajeKotlyar]

Don't you ever think that Wolf needed a nerf?

He was too strong. Now he is more balanced

[Duck986]

11 minutes ago, Seero said:

someone make a mod that adds his speed when you go mighty pls

this topic is such a hell that I'm absolutely sure there will be a mod for an old Wolfgang like it was with Woodie

[Seero]

1 minute ago, Duck986 said:

this topic is such a hell that I'm absolutely sure there will be a mod for an old Wolfgang like it was with Woodie

it doesn't need to be old wolfgang

it can be current wolfgang with the speed boost (when he is in mighty of course)

and maybe 250 health

what if:

bring back speed boost

but the piggy back/marble suit make you have only 1x speed

so you have wilson speed when wearing either one of those

but walking cane speed without them

 

[Milordo]

2 minutes ago, DajeKotlyar said:

Don't you ever think that Wolf needed a nerf?

He was too strong. Now he is more balanced

I don't know because then we need to re-open the discussion about "what is op? what is balance?,ecc...".

Yes, tecnically he was but i don't care at this point. However one thing i care is to make him more interesting and more fun (the gym is debatable in terms of fun, yes) and i will never stop to say it, i'm even more happy that many of Toros' ideas made to the game.

He is a really Wolfgang main veteran, he knows what he's talking about and so i gave him more weight, since he has many more hours combined than every one of us here in Wolfgang. 

[ShadowDuelist]

27 minutes ago, Seero said:

it doesn't need to be old wolfgang

it can be current wolfgang with the speed boost (when he is in mighty of course)

and maybe 250 health

what if:

bring back speed boost

but the piggy back/marble suit make you have only 1x speed

so you have wilson speed when wearing either one of those

but walking cane speed without them

 

Why not middle ground? Like 10% speed boost when mighty. Enough to make a difference but more of a side perk.

Or like pig princess suggested somewhere, that since he is a coward he gets more speed but only if insane (and thus running fast out of being terrified)

[Dextops]

3 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said:

Why not middle ground? Like 10% speed boost when mighty. Enough to make a difference but more of a side perk.

i think better is 1.25 when mighty .75-85 when wimpy and just regular speed for regular form

[Orty97]

One thing i know for a fact would make it more fun is making whimpy harder to avoid. Make us relish when we are in normal mode, and love when we are in mighty form. I don't know exactly how they should do it, but i'm 99,99% sure that would be for the best.

[ShadowDuelist]

7 minutes ago, Dextops said:

i think better is 1.25 when mighty .75-85 when wimpy and just regular speed for regular form

Considering how easy is now to stay in mighty form that will make him one of the fastest with less effort characters. Isn’t the point of his character be mighty? Not speedy

[Dextops]

Just now, ShadowDuelist said:

Considering how easy is now to stay in mighty form that will make him one of the fastest with less effort characters. Isn’t the point of his character be mighty? Not speedy

problem is there is no point to maintaining mightyness and being wimpy doesn't have a good enough downside

[ShadowDuelist]

1 minute ago, Dextops said:

problem is there is no point to maintaining mightyness and being wimpy doesn't have a good enough downside

Could be +10% speed mighty and -10% speed wimpy. 
And still leaving room for the effort invested into being speedy for Wormwood. 

Getting best speed and best damage sounds meh

[Dextops]

Just now, ShadowDuelist said:

Could be +10% speed mighty and -10% speed wimpy. 
And still leaving room for the effort invested into being speedy for Wormwood. 

Getting best speed and best damage sounds meh

he doesn't have best speed walter does and he has to work even less for it also it'd bring more use to always having a gembell on hand instead of when you're only in combat

[Guille6785]

38 minutes ago, Milordo said:

He is a really Wolfgang main veteran, he knows what he's talking about and so i gave him more weight, since he has many more hours combined than every one of us here in Wolfgang. 

bruh