Developer Ipsquiggle Posted June 18, 2021 Developer Share Posted June 18, 2021 Hey everyone! Today's patch fixes several crashes and issues when playing the Base Game, so that should work much better now if you try it. There is a known issue that OSX versions of public_test crash if you have any mods subscribed. Take care and have a good weekend! New and Improved Added Starmap Interplanetary Payload inflight sound Base Game: All traits, including skill-granting traits, which aren't specific to Radiation or Multi-Asteroid space have been merged down to the Base Game Base Game: Radioactive Contaminants are no longer present in the base game Base Game: Rads tool is no longer available in the base game sandbox tools Increased the amount of Cobalt Ore in the Swamp Classic Style Terra Cluster’s second asteroid: Worldgen: Removed Jungle and added Forest. Worldgen: Moved starting location down so it doesn’t appear right below the crust. Bug Fixes Base Game: Removed a number of Spaced Out!-specific entries from the Codex Base Game: Storages no longer drop their contents when loading a base game save into the preview build. Base Game: Removed message saying 0 research modules installed on the base game starmap screen. Base Game: Suit durability is "Indestructible" by default in Base Game Base Game: Fix crash when building a Molecular Forge in Base Game Base Game: Remove Spaced Out! recipes from the various cooking stations, preventing crashes. Base Game: Removed the artifact analysis skill from the Aesthetic Design skill Base Game: Fixed issue causing some Spaced Out! content to show up in the codex when playing the base game Entombed Building Diagnostic now works Various typo fixes and description tweaks Performance Improved performance of opening the Load Game screen by 50% Fixed stutter at the Main Menu caused by the Resume Game button refreshing. Also improved its performance by 70% Fixed a performance issue with the Entombed Buildings Diagnostic View full update 14 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 ohh, I forgot all about this until now! Spoiler 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacio_ultanca Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 awesome and rad updates! Love the changes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaneLuxis Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) the hydrocactus is without debug mode still inaccessible? cheers Edited June 18, 2021 by KaneLuxis Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumPion Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Any word on game crashes due to deconstructing rocket gas cargo module ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Ipsquiggle Posted June 18, 2021 Author Developer Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, QuantumPion said: Any word on game crashes due to deconstructing rocket gas cargo module ? This has been fixed but unfortunately didn't make it in time for today's build. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroely Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 What about the Moo Moonlet? I've been unable to discover its surface on the last few colonies. Some say it's because of the natural gas buildup from falling mooteors... I also notice spikes in my calorie generation and calorie consumption graphs (upwards of 80kg of meat at a time) that the game attributes to butchering for meat and rotting meat, though I never got that meat myself. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboking Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Ipsquiggle said: Worldgen: Removed Jungle and added Forest. So classic-style Terra now has guaranteed pips and arbor trees? That's great. 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck986 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 8 hours ago, Ipsquiggle said: Base Game: All traits, including skill-granting traits, which aren't specific to Radiation or Multi-Asteroid space have been merged down to the Base Game Poggers, time to reload my game until I get +15 husbandry. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 8 hours ago, Ipsquiggle said: This has been fixed but unfortunately didn't make it in time for today's build. Hope this can be fixed as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDeusMachina Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Ipsquiggle said: New and Improved Also noticed ninja update on the art of some of the new teleporter POIs, see images below. By the way, the new teleporter POIs are really nice, they look great and I love that they only yield a small amount of glass now (2x5kg of glass in the POI from the screenshot below). It makes it more challenging to get the first solar panels up and running. Seeing how good they are in the DLC, I think it is a nice change. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmidt81 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Classic Style Terra Cluster’s second asteroid: Worldgen: Removed Jungle and added Forest. Klei whats Up to you ?! You are The best !!!! Feedback included !! 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotintin Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Klei, I wish every developer was like you. It's an awesome experience playing your games and taking part in this early access. Although your team doesn't post on the feedback and forums much, it's obvious you guys are paying attention to the discussions we're having and implementing changes that check your boxes as well. Keep up the amazing work! 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebbie Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 8 hours ago, NeoDeusMachina said: Also noticed ninja update on the art of some of the new teleporter POIs, see images below. By the way, the new teleporter POIs are really nice, they look great and I love that they only yield a small amount of glass now (2x5kg of glass in the POI from the screenshot below). It makes it more challenging to get the first solar panels up and running. Seeing how good they are in the DLC, I think it is a nice change. Several 50kg to 2 5kg is a big leap. I think those panes should really be 20kg each, and even then, this is a big move away from ONI stuff being a little on the heavy side. Also, if we could build those ourselves, I absolutely would as a less labor-intensive alternative to drywall that would look pretty nice if it shows the background behind. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDeusMachina Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nebbie said: Several 50kg to 2 5kg is a big leap. I think those panes should really be 20kg each, and even then, this is a big move away from ONI stuff being a little on the heavy side. Also, if we could build those ourselves, I absolutely would as a less labor-intensive alternative to drywall that would look pretty nice if it shows the background behind. I agree that this is a big leap, but in this case I personally think it was necessary since the glass forge and the solar panels both require materials research. The new glass panels give a little bit of glass, without allowing us to bypass the need to do the research to setup panels for our base or our rockets. They also add up, because there are teleporters on the second asteroid with the teleporters as well. I don't know, maybe you're right and they should have a higher mass, 8*20kg=160kg on the starter asteroid + 9*20kg=180kg on the second asteroid, which would be enough to build a single panel. At that point, we still need to make a glass forge because 1 panel is not going to get us very far, so does it really matter? Currently, we get 85kg total, and I personally think it is fine. That free glass was just way too much. On your second point - if we ever get the chance to build those glass walls as background and they are transparent, I am moving all my bedrooms in space!! 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian.oni Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 21 hours ago, Ipsquiggle said: Removed Jungle and added Forest Nice to see this change but I'm guessing this is to address the lack of any source of pips off a classic style terra start? Can you speak to whether you guys have plans to add biological resources to the space POI fields? This change means pips from space might not be necessary, but the issue of not being able to get voles (if only for the achievement) off of the spaced out style starts would still remain. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroely Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Brian.oni said: Nice to see this change but I'm guessing this is to address the lack of any source of pips off a classic style terra start? Can you speak to whether you guys have plans to add biological resources to the space POI fields? This change means pips from space might not be necessary, but the issue of not being able to get voles (if only for the achievement) off of the spaced out style starts would still remain. I am glad they added a forest biome to the classic asteroid, but yeah, I'd like to be able to get more Wheezewort seeds and other equally unrenewable creatures. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebbie Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 On 6/19/2021 at 12:02 PM, NeoDeusMachina said: I agree that this is a big leap, but in this case I personally think it was necessary since the glass forge and the solar panels both require materials research. The new glass panels give a little bit of glass, without allowing us to bypass the need to do the research to setup panels for our base or our rockets. They also add up, because there are teleporters on the second asteroid with the teleporters as well. I don't know, maybe you're right and they should have a higher mass, 8*20kg=160kg on the starter asteroid + 9*20kg=180kg on the second asteroid, which would be enough to build a single panel. At that point, we still need to make a glass forge because 1 panel is not going to get us very far, so does it really matter? Currently, we get 85kg total, and I personally think it is fine. That free glass was just way too much. On your second point - if we ever get the chance to build those glass walls as background and they are transparent, I am moving all my bedrooms in space!! I don't think making us do even more radiation-based research to get just 1 solar panel is okay. Their plan seems to be to keep solar panel ridiculously overpowered, but make it "lategame" by making us do a ton of busywork to enable it. It would be better for gameplay if solar was less good (longer night is the obvious one), but came earlier, so bases had more options. All pushing solar back is doing is once again making coal the only decent option early on. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDeusMachina Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Nebbie said: I don't think making us do even more radiation-based research to get just 1 solar panel is okay. Their plan seems to be to keep solar panel ridiculously overpowered, but make it "lategame" by making us do a ton of busywork to enable it. It would be better for gameplay if solar was less good (longer night is the obvious one), but came earlier, so bases had more options. All pushing solar back is doing is once again making coal the only decent option early on. We can still get solar MUCH earlier in the DLC than we ever could in the base game. I get your point though - I guess we can agree to disagree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) On 6/19/2021 at 12:22 PM, NeoDeusMachina said: Also noticed ninja update on the art of some of the new teleporter POIs, see images below. By the way, the new teleporter POIs are really nice, they look great and I love that they only yield a small amount of glass now (2x5kg of glass in the POI from the screenshot below). It makes it more challenging to get the first solar panels up and running. Seeing how good they are in the DLC, I think it is a nice change. 3 tile doors? are we expecting some monster sized radiation dupes in future? Hulk maybe? Edited June 20, 2021 by gabberworld Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRup Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, melquiades said: Is it intended that i can no longer load my old save game (that i still use while i wait for world gen to settle) on the new test branch?: Hide contents Is this truly THE END for my colony? EDIT: I managed to load an even older save of this same colony, way way older. what am i missing? wtf? I won't say ask "El Gabo"... But I can say that at some point the save file was "saved" on a higher version than it currently is... So it was saved in 466292 at some point and you're trying to load it in a computer with version 460672 ... (this is also seen in the bottom of your screenshot) I'm not completely familiar with all game versions but current base game version should be CS-466292... I would dare say that you need to update the game on that computer... Hope this helps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1470899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 14 hours ago, JRup said: I won't say ask "El Gabo"... But I can say that at some point the save file was "saved" on a higher version than it currently is... So it was saved in 466292 at some point and you're trying to load it in a computer with version 460672 ... (this is also seen in the bottom of your screenshot) I'm not completely familiar with all game versions but current base game version should be CS-466292... I would dare say that you need to update the game on that computer... Hope this helps. I would guess that it's a difference between current main game branch vs Spaced Out branch with disabled Spaced Out DLC. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1471056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Ipsquiggle Posted June 21, 2021 Author Developer Share Posted June 21, 2021 @melquiades This happens sometimes if you've got the DLC turned off and switch between the "None" and "public_test" branches in steam. If you encounter this issue again, turn on/off the public_test branch and you should be able to play your save again. There's going to be some hiccups of this sort while the mergedown gets sorted out, sorry for the confusion. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1471065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Ipsquiggle Posted June 22, 2021 Author Developer Share Posted June 22, 2021 13 hours ago, melquiades said: so i am at loss now =( If you post your save here, I'll take a look! 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1471357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Ipsquiggle Posted June 23, 2021 Author Developer Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/22/2021 at 12:04 PM, melquiades said: Thank you very much! I'll post it as soon as I get back from work. @Ipsquiggle Here it is, i disabled all mods before saving in the stable branch. (that was a lie, the mods got disabled, not were not, saved without them)Thank you very much. I have lost count how many times this save has been saved by your help already. final final no va mas.sav 86.54 MB · 1 download Well, I was unable to determine why your save in particular was having this problem, I nonetheless fixed the crash it revealed. It will be fixed in the first patch after tomorrow's release! 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130959-spaced-out-update-468398/#findComment-1471811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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