Male_zvire Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Game version R2-267379, new world, "standard" Borg cube,... after 50cycles im still at same temperature 10.4dgrC ?!? Borg cubes are dead in this game version, or i have something wrong? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
onebit Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 They fixed the bug. What's your next choice, personally? I cool oil or petrol with wheezeworts in hydrogen, myself. Base and machinery are cooled with liquid pipes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Drip cooling exploit is removed as of Ranching Mk2. There are several methods for eliminating heat, but for simplicity, the best method is to dump your heat into a liquid via the aquatuner, and destroy or convert that liquid for a net loss of heat energy. Easiest and most accessible method is to sink it into a pool of pH2O, and when the pH2O gets over 100oC, run it through a water sieve for that fixed 40oC output. My favourite method is to dump the heat into a huge tank of pH2O, and run the hot pH2O through fertilizer synthesizers, gaining fertilizer and natural gas for power. If you keep your NG generators cold via cold water dripping or hydrogen, the generators will output cold pH2O, keeping the whole system cool. Another easy method is to sink the heat into crude oil, then turn the crude oil into petroleum, sink MORE heat into the petroleum, then burn the hot petroleum in a generator. I don't like this method because its horridly inefficient and requires dupe time to maintain. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumPion Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I don’t think water sieve has a fixed output anymore. In my base it is outputting water at the same temperature as the input PW. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyMonroe Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 you can use building temp or fixed temp output solutions for massive cooling still. Minor cooling can be achieved by wheezes and AETNs. A self-contained ph2o boiler setup technically destroys heat but it's not a huge amount, although such a build is much easier to do now that we have radiative pipes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 i use this: Spoiler 80C water in and 54C Out Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 3 hours ago, landromat said: i use this: Hide contents 80C water in and 54C Out ewwwwww you done goofed somewhere in your liquid piping... Eurgh Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 3 hours ago, landromat said: i use this: Hide contents 80C water in and 54C Out ....only 26 C of cooling? I mean, I know that particular AETN template is a hot mess, but.... With all those Wheezeworts in there too... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wachunga Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, PhailRaptor said: ....only 26 C of cooling? I mean, I know that particular AETN template is a hot mess, but.... With all those Wheezeworts in there too... Water holds a massive amount of heat. AFAIK AETNs do 80kW of cooling, each of the 11 wheezewort does 12kW in hydrogen for a grand total of 212kW. Specific heat of water is 4.179, so 1kg/s can be cooled 50C or 1.95kg/s 26C. That looks like more than 1.95kg/s so I would guess he is slowly heating the chamber, but the numbers are in the right ballpark. The takeaway is that wheezeworts and AETNs are actually underpowered. IMO fixed temperature outputs like the sieve should eventually be changed, but not until better cooling solutions come into play. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Lifegrow said: ewwwwww you done goofed somewhere in your liquid piping... Eurgh i use half of water for oxygen production, oil and skimmer Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, landromat said: i use half of water for oxygen production, oil and skimmer Well you're not splitting your supply properly buddy - t-junctions are the devil Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 8 hours ago, Lifegrow said: Well you're not splitting your supply properly buddy - t-junctions are the devil oh, i'll try something else. Somebody reported about this bug? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 14 hours ago, landromat said: i use this: Hide contents 80C water in and 54C Out Try to set automated timer for the pump 25 sec pumping >5 sec idle.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 11 worts and an aetn for only 26 degrees? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, Soulwind said: 11 worts and an aetn for only 26 degrees? this was my thought too, yikes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giltirn Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Denisetwin said: this was my thought too, yikes. It makes me glad that the community are now finally waking up to the lack of decent cooling solutions that don't use exploits. Drip cooling was *waaaaay* overpowered and completely skewed the game difficulty. Maybe now there will be a push for legitimate solutions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Male_zvire Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 Drip cooling is dead... damn. I missed this information Thanks... Wheezeworts must go back... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1033997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 You can still achieve some very good cooling via aquatuner setups, but now you have to pay for it with power. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1034005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Oozinator said: Try to set automated timer for the pump 25 sec pumping >5 sec idle.. how can i do it without building 12 timers? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1034074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 20 hours ago, Lifegrow said: Well you're not splitting your supply properly buddy - t-junctions are the devil fixed. Fun fact if you connect pipe bridge instead of pipe to t-junction it works fine Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1034096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Exactly - this is why I said avoid t-junctions There are many threads on basic piping techniques mate, bridges are very powerful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1034110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadelink Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Hmm, I tend to sink a lot of heat into CO2 then eliminate it through Co2 filters. A lot comes hot off coal power plants anyway. I have occasionally thought of pumping chlorine/hydrogen mixes out of some of my cooler 'gardens' and back in again to keep the temperature there up to 50-60c, but never really had the need. My current base with the double steam vents enclosed in a giant abysillite tank just stay hot till cooled and pumped, a longish vent with weezeworts recondenses and cools to keep liquid in, which gets pumped to cooling tanks in a cold zone. My base is pretty much always cooled by low temperature oxy thats drawn from cool zones and pumped into another bit of the cool zone from the generation area (or generated in the coolzone if I'm not short of coolspace). Nothing like a -5c oxygen stream on that hot stove to stop it overheating the living area. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1034169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yeah whenever I have a T junction now I use some form of bridge or other similar device. Lets it flow smoothly! Thanks to my fav streamer for that! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1034192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoazureus Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 maybe this can solve the problem of T junctions... Spoiler A liquid splitter : Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90632-borg-cube-is-dead/#findComment-1034450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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