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5 minutes ago, loled said:

Woodie always chooped faster. But after not playing for some months i see other characters take bit longer than what they used to, while he is still very fast.

iS it an awkward way to give him a bonus.

nope.

3 minutes ago, loled said:

I now he sucks i just noticed taking 3-4 seconds to chop a tree when i was taking 2-3, it felt diffferent (i was with wilson) while woodie is still 1-1,5 sec.

Woodie doesn't suck. It was probably just lag when you were playing as Wilson.

@Chris1488 @thesamon When people say "Woodie sucks", and I've gotta say I agree here, they don't mean he's unplayable. People play Wes, after all. What they mean is that he has no role. Anything he does another character does better. If you wanted a beard, Wilson does that better. If you wanted fast chopping, Maxwell does that better. If you wanted easier sanity management, Maxwell does that better, too. If you wanted a werebeaver that actually had a purpose other than to punish you, well, you're out of luck, because the werebeaver is awful (you could also point out some parallels with WX-78's overcharge and the werebeaver... and guess what, WX-78 does that better; one The End Is Nigh charges him for over a YEAR, makes him immune to cold, darkness, and makes him faster than the werebeaver). For Woodie to "not suck", the werebeaver needs to be useful (or he needs to just be completely redesigned, I guess, but that's no fun).

@rezecib That's true. But otherwise as a character alone he's quite alright. Fast chopping, gains sanity from planting cones (equivalent to picking flowers), a minor insulation, can become a "hammer" if needed (on cost of some sanity ofcourse)

I see your point, but personally I think he's fun to play as is.

 

Woodie is fun, dammit.  I can't even get mad at the extreme sanity/health/hunger drain that happens after he changes back, 'cos that is SO RIGHT for were...thingie lore.  In sympathetic werewolf stories--which I'm a major sucker for--the well-intentioned but uncontrollable main character will commonly wake up, after the night of the full moon, dazed, disoriented, and beat up, with blood on them in various places that they don't know whose it is, random twigs and leaves in their hair, etc...so...it makes sense.  It may be annoying in a gameplay way, but it makes SO much _story_ sense I LOVE it.  I wouldn't have it any other way.

...even if it does get me killed.  A lot.  I first unlocked Webber with Woodie--he was the one I was playing when I found Webber's skull.  Unfortunately, this happened shortly after a werebeaver transformation and I didn't KNOW that a bazillion spiders would all erupt out of the grave, so...half-health, no-armour Woodie was not long for this world. But I still got Webber out of the deal.  :)  (Not to mention, DYING in order to save another doomed, messed-up character is very, _very_ Don't Starve.)

...Notorious

2 hours ago, TheKingofSquirrels said:

Nope, Woodie still sucks.

*starts a day 1 server and a Woodie joins*

*seconds in, he turns into Werebeaver*

What a noob, I initially thought...

*3 days later, still werebeaver, he returns to the surface*

Day 4, he had a magil, 2 sets of crowns, a suit, and a bat-bat. He rushed ruins asap.

Ahh what a gimmick, he utilized nightvision/speed for his advantage.

*~6 days later...*

He has scalemail and a lavae. He killed dragonfly. Theory was he kited Dragon for the first few rounds then reverted back to his old self to panflute.

10/10 wood lumber as Woodie for acorny pun and jedi powers.

may the forest be with you

8 hours ago, Gyths said:

*starts a day 1 server and a Woodie joins*

*seconds in, he turns into Werebeaver*

What a noob, I initially thought...

*3 days later, still werebeaver, he returns to the surface*

Day 4, he had a magil, 2 sets of crowns, a suit, and a bat-bat. He rushed ruins asap.

Ahh what a gimmick, he utilized nightvision/speed for his advantage.

*~6 days later...*

He has scalemail and a lavae. He killed dragonfly. Theory was he kited Dragon for the first few rounds then reverted back to his old self to panflute.

10/10 wood lumber as Woodie for acorny pun and jedi powers.

may the forest be with you

Can we please post this on every "woodie sucks" thread? :)

But that narrative doesn't make any sense. He would've had to convert back to craft or even pick up anything in the ruins, and he would've needed a light source to do so. Additionally, any other character could have done that more easily than a Woodie, they just need to grab a lantern first. The werebeaver can't even heal, and has terrible grass-suit armor. Does anyone even make grass suits, ever?

For example, WX could do this much more easily with almost no preparation. Get a few torches and a hammer, find an ancient pseudoscience station, hammer it to become overcharged, make the ruins your playground.

As has been said many times before, Woodie isn't unplayable. If you're literally a god, then you'll still be a god with Woodie. He just pales in comparison to any other character.

1 hour ago, rezecib said:

But that narrative doesn't make any sense. He would've had to convert back to craft or even pick up anything in the ruins, and he would've needed a light source to do so. Additionally, any other character could have done that more easily than a Woodie, they just need to grab a lantern first. The werebeaver can't even heal, and has terrible grass-suit armor. Does anyone even make grass suits, ever?

For example, WX could do this much more easily with almost no preparation. Get a few torches and a hammer, find an ancient pseudoscience station, hammer it to become overcharged, make the ruins your playground.

As has been said many times before, Woodie isn't unplayable. If you're literally a god, then you'll still be a god with Woodie. He just pales in comparison to any other character.

When did woodie change that everyone suddenly want him to change. Isn't he like this since beginning of DST?

2 hours ago, rezecib said:

For example, WX could do this much more easily with almost no preparation. Get a few torches and a hammer, find an ancient pseudoscience station, hammer it to become overcharged, make the ruins your playground.

Hammering an ancient altar in the ruins doesn't shoot lightning for whatever reason. Wish it would :(

I wasnt lagging with wilson. Also i do agree woodie sucks. Some people, out of respect for everything, they favor the bad choices just because they dont want to insult them.

No going to harvard school for example, on AVERAGE is not the same with going a local, village university or something.

Same here, yeah yeah all characters be awesome if you are awesome with them. Well then again, if you can be same awesome with half hours invested in another character, the first one sucks. I would just wish, woodie, wouldnt NEED to eat wood and/or didnt lose hp while in werebeaver mode.

58 minutes ago, loled said:

I would just wish, woodie, wouldnt NEED to eat wood and/or didnt lose hp while in werebeaver mode.

I'm glad he does. It changes things up a bit, and i'd rather have a wooden snack than having to refrain from having to chop wood AT ALL while waiting for the meter to go down. 

I like the control you have over him in DST than the standalone version, where you have to skip one day after transforming back to Woodie.

11 hours ago, t0panka said:

When did woodie change that everyone suddenly want him to change. Isn't he like this since beginning of DST?

When Klei added the new Maxwell to DST, Woodie lost the only advantage he had over other characters which was being able to chop wood faster than any other character.

Maxwell's chopper minions were nerfed down to normal person chop speed, so even with 3 summoned, he's only matching woodie... before Woodie transforms (you can -easily- chop 'til you transform and keep going until you turn back with no real penalty, since you get a billion pinecones from it) at which point Woodie blows him away.

However, Maxwell's minions can also chop whilst you do other things if you plan for that. On the flipside, they cost nightmare fuel and Maxwell has a piddly 75 max hp. They actually -are- stunningly similar characters though, since the main draw of Maxwell is woodcutter minions and they both have no sanity worries. (duelists are neat but costly and don't help against any of the actual tougher enemies- it just sorta evens out the 75hp and has some fun value?) But a lot of people I think would pick Maxwell over Woodie anyway because they think he's more neat? When it comes to wood Woodie's still much better and has double the hp.

...I like Maxwell over Woodie mostly just because of personality/design differences :S

4 hours ago, Tumalu said:

But a lot of people I think would pick Maxwell over Woodie anyway because they think he's more neat?

Well he does have the perk of being able to read Wickerbottom's books, and seeing as to how he has built in sanity regen it would make a lot of sense of being a wood gatherer and avid book reader than just solely a wood gatherer.

4 hours ago, Tumalu said:

...I like Maxwell over Woodie mostly just because of personality/design differences :S

Same I love being a dapper chap, who looks good with hairy potter glasses. ;)  

20 hours ago, rezecib said:

But that narrative doesn't make any sense.

I actually didn't think about it as quickly as I wish I'd had, and went to try it out myself. First thing I noticed is that at least playing on a controller (not sure why it would be different for M/KB but never know) he can't even use the sinkhole. Next thing that came up is that I got lucky enough to get a terrorbeak on my tail. Werebeaver actually doesn't get any armor at all anymore, so unless you're hosting the game, trying to fight a terrorbeak is suicide. Cue 4 days straight of running around with it behind me. Found the ruins, but couldn't do squat. Even after the terrorbeak FINALLY went away, there were clockworks near anything of interest. I assume now this story was a joke (possibly a practical joke) or something. Even if you went down with a light source in your inventory and 10 stacks of pine cones you'd be hard pressed to get anything productive done, much less THAT productive.

1 hour ago, TheHalcyonOne said:

I assume now this story was a joke (possibly a practical joke) or something.

Yeah, I'd knew it would bring much skepticism. Perhaps I should've elaborated on many concepts of said story, and hopefully I could get in touch with the Woodie master himself (by this point I'm poking him with every nerve I have), so right now I can't confirm much what I have. I've seen him relatively enough to ensure trust in his strategy, hence his whopping 2.4k hours.

Right now, I could only predict either a client decked full of mods, or just some cheesy strategy. Sorry for your run through the ruins @TheHalcyonOne, I got to at least prove myself right than to barge in with a narrative.

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