loled Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Woodie always chooped faster. But after not playing for some months i see other characters take bit longer than what they used to, while he is still very fast. iS it an awkward way to give him a bonus. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedChris Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, loled said: Woodie always chooped faster. But after not playing for some months i see other characters take bit longer than what they used to, while he is still very fast. iS it an awkward way to give him a bonus. nope. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Nope, Woodie still sucks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedChris Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, TheKingofSquirrels said: Nope, Woodie still sucks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loled Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 I now he sucks i just noticed taking 3-4 seconds to chop a tree when i was taking 2-3, it felt diffferent (i was with wilson) while woodie is still 1-1,5 sec. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedChris Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, loled said: I now he sucks i just noticed taking 3-4 seconds to chop a tree when i was taking 2-3, it felt diffferent (i was with wilson) while woodie is still 1-1,5 sec. Woodie doesn't suck. It was probably just lag when you were playing as Wilson. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesamon Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 "Woodie sucks" I've never really played Woodie until very recently, and boy, I actually like him. He doesn't suck in the slightest Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezecib Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 @Chris1488 @thesamon When people say "Woodie sucks", and I've gotta say I agree here, they don't mean he's unplayable. People play Wes, after all. What they mean is that he has no role. Anything he does another character does better. If you wanted a beard, Wilson does that better. If you wanted fast chopping, Maxwell does that better. If you wanted easier sanity management, Maxwell does that better, too. If you wanted a werebeaver that actually had a purpose other than to punish you, well, you're out of luck, because the werebeaver is awful (you could also point out some parallels with WX-78's overcharge and the werebeaver... and guess what, WX-78 does that better; one The End Is Nigh charges him for over a YEAR, makes him immune to cold, darkness, and makes him faster than the werebeaver). For Woodie to "not suck", the werebeaver needs to be useful (or he needs to just be completely redesigned, I guess, but that's no fun). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeadatrix Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 49 minutes ago, Chris1488 said: Woodie doesn't suck. It was probably just lag when you were playing as Wilson. Did someone insult my boy? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesamon Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 @rezecib That's true. But otherwise as a character alone he's quite alright. Fast chopping, gains sanity from planting cones (equivalent to picking flowers), a minor insulation, can become a "hammer" if needed (on cost of some sanity ofcourse) I see your point, but personally I think he's fun to play as is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainChaotica Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Woodie is fun, dammit. I can't even get mad at the extreme sanity/health/hunger drain that happens after he changes back, 'cos that is SO RIGHT for were...thingie lore. In sympathetic werewolf stories--which I'm a major sucker for--the well-intentioned but uncontrollable main character will commonly wake up, after the night of the full moon, dazed, disoriented, and beat up, with blood on them in various places that they don't know whose it is, random twigs and leaves in their hair, etc...so...it makes sense. It may be annoying in a gameplay way, but it makes SO much _story_ sense I LOVE it. I wouldn't have it any other way. ...even if it does get me killed. A lot. I first unlocked Webber with Woodie--he was the one I was playing when I found Webber's skull. Unfortunately, this happened shortly after a werebeaver transformation and I didn't KNOW that a bazillion spiders would all erupt out of the grave, so...half-health, no-armour Woodie was not long for this world. But I still got Webber out of the deal. (Not to mention, DYING in order to save another doomed, messed-up character is very, _very_ Don't Starve.) ...Notorious Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyths Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 hours ago, TheKingofSquirrels said: Nope, Woodie still sucks. *starts a day 1 server and a Woodie joins* *seconds in, he turns into Werebeaver* What a noob, I initially thought... *3 days later, still werebeaver, he returns to the surface* Day 4, he had a magil, 2 sets of crowns, a suit, and a bat-bat. He rushed ruins asap. Ahh what a gimmick, he utilized nightvision/speed for his advantage. *~6 days later...* He has scalemail and a lavae. He killed dragonfly. Theory was he kited Dragon for the first few rounds then reverted back to his old self to panflute. 10/10 wood lumber as Woodie for acorny pun and jedi powers. may the forest be with you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faintly Macabre Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 To answer the original question, the answer is no. Client/server stuff just makes mining and chopping slower. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0panka Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 8 hours ago, Gyths said: *starts a day 1 server and a Woodie joins* *seconds in, he turns into Werebeaver* What a noob, I initially thought... *3 days later, still werebeaver, he returns to the surface* Day 4, he had a magil, 2 sets of crowns, a suit, and a bat-bat. He rushed ruins asap. Ahh what a gimmick, he utilized nightvision/speed for his advantage. *~6 days later...* He has scalemail and a lavae. He killed dragonfly. Theory was he kited Dragon for the first few rounds then reverted back to his old self to panflute. 10/10 wood lumber as Woodie for acorny pun and jedi powers. may the forest be with you Can we please post this on every "woodie sucks" thread? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezecib Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 But that narrative doesn't make any sense. He would've had to convert back to craft or even pick up anything in the ruins, and he would've needed a light source to do so. Additionally, any other character could have done that more easily than a Woodie, they just need to grab a lantern first. The werebeaver can't even heal, and has terrible grass-suit armor. Does anyone even make grass suits, ever? For example, WX could do this much more easily with almost no preparation. Get a few torches and a hammer, find an ancient pseudoscience station, hammer it to become overcharged, make the ruins your playground. As has been said many times before, Woodie isn't unplayable. If you're literally a god, then you'll still be a god with Woodie. He just pales in comparison to any other character. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0panka Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 1 hour ago, rezecib said: But that narrative doesn't make any sense. He would've had to convert back to craft or even pick up anything in the ruins, and he would've needed a light source to do so. Additionally, any other character could have done that more easily than a Woodie, they just need to grab a lantern first. The werebeaver can't even heal, and has terrible grass-suit armor. Does anyone even make grass suits, ever? For example, WX could do this much more easily with almost no preparation. Get a few torches and a hammer, find an ancient pseudoscience station, hammer it to become overcharged, make the ruins your playground. As has been said many times before, Woodie isn't unplayable. If you're literally a god, then you'll still be a god with Woodie. He just pales in comparison to any other character. When did woodie change that everyone suddenly want him to change. Isn't he like this since beginning of DST? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterStuffed Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 hours ago, rezecib said: For example, WX could do this much more easily with almost no preparation. Get a few torches and a hammer, find an ancient pseudoscience station, hammer it to become overcharged, make the ruins your playground. Hammering an ancient altar in the ruins doesn't shoot lightning for whatever reason. Wish it would Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0panka Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Weird Wanderer said: Hammering an ancient altar in the ruins doesn't shoot lightning for whatever reason. Wish it would + it spawns lot of monsters and lvl1 WX will die quickly Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loled Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 I wasnt lagging with wilson. Also i do agree woodie sucks. Some people, out of respect for everything, they favor the bad choices just because they dont want to insult them. No going to harvard school for example, on AVERAGE is not the same with going a local, village university or something. Same here, yeah yeah all characters be awesome if you are awesome with them. Well then again, if you can be same awesome with half hours invested in another character, the first one sucks. I would just wish, woodie, wouldnt NEED to eat wood and/or didnt lose hp while in werebeaver mode. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesamon Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 58 minutes ago, loled said: I would just wish, woodie, wouldnt NEED to eat wood and/or didnt lose hp while in werebeaver mode. I'm glad he does. It changes things up a bit, and i'd rather have a wooden snack than having to refrain from having to chop wood AT ALL while waiting for the meter to go down. I like the control you have over him in DST than the standalone version, where you have to skip one day after transforming back to Woodie. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallishbird Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 11 hours ago, t0panka said: When did woodie change that everyone suddenly want him to change. Isn't he like this since beginning of DST? When Klei added the new Maxwell to DST, Woodie lost the only advantage he had over other characters which was being able to chop wood faster than any other character. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-783994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumalu Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Maxwell's chopper minions were nerfed down to normal person chop speed, so even with 3 summoned, he's only matching woodie... before Woodie transforms (you can -easily- chop 'til you transform and keep going until you turn back with no real penalty, since you get a billion pinecones from it) at which point Woodie blows him away. However, Maxwell's minions can also chop whilst you do other things if you plan for that. On the flipside, they cost nightmare fuel and Maxwell has a piddly 75 max hp. They actually -are- stunningly similar characters though, since the main draw of Maxwell is woodcutter minions and they both have no sanity worries. (duelists are neat but costly and don't help against any of the actual tougher enemies- it just sorta evens out the 75hp and has some fun value?) But a lot of people I think would pick Maxwell over Woodie anyway because they think he's more neat? When it comes to wood Woodie's still much better and has double the hp. ...I like Maxwell over Woodie mostly just because of personality/design differences :S Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-784050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiddyGuy Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Tumalu said: But a lot of people I think would pick Maxwell over Woodie anyway because they think he's more neat? Well he does have the perk of being able to read Wickerbottom's books, and seeing as to how he has built in sanity regen it would make a lot of sense of being a wood gatherer and avid book reader than just solely a wood gatherer. 4 hours ago, Tumalu said: ...I like Maxwell over Woodie mostly just because of personality/design differences :S Same I love being a dapper chap, who looks good with hairy potter glasses. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-784121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faintly Macabre Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 20 hours ago, rezecib said: But that narrative doesn't make any sense. I actually didn't think about it as quickly as I wish I'd had, and went to try it out myself. First thing I noticed is that at least playing on a controller (not sure why it would be different for M/KB but never know) he can't even use the sinkhole. Next thing that came up is that I got lucky enough to get a terrorbeak on my tail. Werebeaver actually doesn't get any armor at all anymore, so unless you're hosting the game, trying to fight a terrorbeak is suicide. Cue 4 days straight of running around with it behind me. Found the ruins, but couldn't do squat. Even after the terrorbeak FINALLY went away, there were clockworks near anything of interest. I assume now this story was a joke (possibly a practical joke) or something. Even if you went down with a light source in your inventory and 10 stacks of pine cones you'd be hard pressed to get anything productive done, much less THAT productive. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-784133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyths Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, TheHalcyonOne said: I assume now this story was a joke (possibly a practical joke) or something. Yeah, I'd knew it would bring much skepticism. Perhaps I should've elaborated on many concepts of said story, and hopefully I could get in touch with the Woodie master himself (by this point I'm poking him with every nerve I have), so right now I can't confirm much what I have. I've seen him relatively enough to ensure trust in his strategy, hence his whopping 2.4k hours. Right now, I could only predict either a client decked full of mods, or just some cheesy strategy. Sorry for your run through the ruins @TheHalcyonOne, I got to at least prove myself right than to barge in with a narrative. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/68156-did-woodie-get-an-indirect-bonus/#findComment-784144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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