Mather Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Just loving the new Willow upgrades! ...I'd better stay away from my berry bushes when I go insane... o_O Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orima-Kazooie Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Wow,I love the new Wolfgang art! But his wimpy version reminds me of someone...I do sincerely hope I am not the only one who saw it! Let me help you seeing what I mean [ATTACH=CONFIG]9717[/ATTACH]He has the WHe could be a character Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orima-Kazooie Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 What I posted is simple biology. If you want to talk about more advance genetic structures and how each allele affects the coding of a gene we can discuss in a new topic. But for time sake I used the example of dominant and recessive alleles to code for a particular colour. If the allele coding for a specific colour is dominant then that colour will be expressed. Look it up in any basic GCSE biology book.Dude don't talk to me about sciences; I think I must've misread your post. I thought you were saying that being caught in the fire destroyed the genes responsible for dark hair which would be total bull****. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozyhut3 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I was thinking, is the whole "calories burn faster with increased mightiness" thing going to make Wolfy UP? Simply put, if you're not feeding Wolfgang 24/7, he's going to have LESS power than the other characters, with no added benefits. :/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddivyansh12 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 [MENTION=8]Kevin[/MENTION] what about our puppet master... What changes he will experience ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyRabbit Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Wolfgang art (at the extremes - there's another build in the middle that's still being worked on)YES XD That's exactly what I thought! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConeyKrab Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 [MENTION=8]Kevin[/MENTION] what about our puppet master... What changes he will experience ?Kevin said that the new character is too complicated, so Maxwell (he's been referred to by name even by the devs in this thread, you don't have to worry about spoilers anymore) is going to have to wait for the next update.Personally, I wouldn't mind them getting the new character done, launching the beta build on Mon/Tues, and then working on Maxwell and releasing the build with him in it on Wens/Thurs. But then again, I don't know how long it'd take to code changes for Maxwell, or how long it'll take to fix bugs and balance issues with everything else. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amkar Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Wolfgang art (at the extremes - there's another build in the middle that's still being worked on)[ATTACH=CONFIG]9677[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]9678[/ATTACH]Hungry Wolfgang looks so cool! I love him even more now, even after quite a nerf! Any chance you could let us know what his hungry negatives will be? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeetle Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Hungry Wolfgang looks so cool! I love him even more now, even after quite a nerf! Any chance you could let us know what his hungry negatives will be?he's weaker than wilson (unless kevin decided to change what he said would most likely happen) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgtotoro Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Sounds good I like the infinite ballons Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amkar Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 he's weaker than wilson (unless kevin decided to change what he said would most likely happen)I knew that, I mean as in like an actual number. Like, 25% weaker? 50%? Just curious, especially since Wx78 has his numbers set out already. Considering he's a strongman, it would be a bit strange if at maximum hunger he was weaker than fully upgraded Wx78. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaka10777 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Considering he's a strongman, it would be a bit strange if at maximum hunger he was weaker than fully upgraded Wx78.I think it balance in that way. Wx78 is the character who has highest health, hunger, and sanity with full upgrade, but when come to strength Wolfgang still is strongest with full hunger. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I think it balance in that way. Wx78 is the character who has highest health, hunger, and sanity with full upgrade, but when come to strength Wolfgang still is strongest with full hunger.This! People forget that the awesome thing about Wolfy is the damage bonus. Health can be kept in check with armor, and god knows how many Honey Ham's were used at full health... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummbar7 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ya, Wolfgang still has the damage advantage. Plus, he get's all this from the start, whereas WX78 will take time to get powerful. For newer players Wolfgang's setup is probably better. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaka10777 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ya, Wolfgang still has the damage advantage. Plus, he get's all this from the start, whereas WX78 will take time to get powerful. For newer players Wolfgang's setup is probably better.Or maybe worst if they can't find enough food to fill his mighty stomach. Think about if they go to challenge adventure mode and first world is King of Winter... lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozyhut3 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 It would appear that the changes are more or less finalized. Place your bets on who's going to be UP/OP! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConeyKrab Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 It would appear that the changes are more or less finalized. Place your bets on who's going to be UP/OP! Or we could not derail this thread and wait for Monday/Tuesday to have legitimately backed opinions and experience playing with the changes? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozyhut3 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Or we could not derail this thread and wait for Monday/Tuesday to have legitimately backed opinions and experience playing with the changes?That's too long a wait for some of us. Also, how exactly would it derail the thread? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Head Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 it would appear that the changes are more or less finalized. Place your bets on who's going to be up/op! They're all OP! O.M.G Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cacahuatoforo Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Will Wolfgang's "voice" change tone with decrased mightiness?I think it should be smoother, in a Wolfgang-ish way Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREU Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 No abigil is cool a gosht much better and usufel willow too wolfgang kinda nerferd nut in OP he goed to normal a good one wilson is the 1 one so he is good like this wes very cool not total usuless now u can have fun with balowns and WX-78 OMFG JESUS GET AN UMBRELA U ARE GOOD! JUST DESTROY A PIG HOUSE AND KILL SPIDRS, GET SOME SILK CONGRATULATION U ARE GOD, i was going to bet adventure mode with wendy as she is now (have more than 20 gears arounds ) but going to wait for the GOD ROBOT Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Or maybe worst if they can't find enough food to fill his mighty stomach. Think about if they go to challenge adventure mode and first world is King of Winter... lolHa, no problem if you're good at the game. ONLY MIGHTY PEOPLE CAN PLAY AS WOLFGANG NOW! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Head Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ha, no problem if you're good at the game. ONLY MIGHTY PEOPLE CAN PLAY AS WOLFGANG NOW!Damn straight! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson240 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Just a few suggestions for each characterWilson: Balanced.Willow: Keep her as she is; pretty useful now.Wendy: No sanity penalty when digging graves.Wolfgang: Loss of hunger when fighting. (Like 2.5 per. Second)Wx-78: No health loss from rotten or any health taking foods.Wickerbottom: Balanced.Wes: Can be trapped in a box (can't get out of the box after 10 second but monsters leave him after about 5 seconds.)-Cooldown: 1-5 minutes.Maxwell: Can't think of any ideas for him; needs more of a reward for him being the last adventure mode character, otherwise in a nutshell: buff him a bit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krac Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I have a suggestion for Maxwell. Since the grown up tallbirds tend to murder their adoptive parents, he could be able to raise his failed and embarrassing experiment as a permanent pet. If he has 2 they jelausly fight each other to the death. And hire merms.It will be so fun to use the hideous monsters as minions c: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/20709-character-rebalance-discussion-thread/page/40/#findComment-214905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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