DVGMedia Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) Spoiler Posted 57 minutes ago I'm actually glad you replied @JoeW I understand the frustration of the OP, but I also always try to keep myself calm and my tone kind, this is why I usually don't reply to posts with an aggressive tone. I believe I was rude only one time in these forums towards the work of the staff, and apart from this exception, I always tried to see things from Klei's side, not only as delevopers, but also as full-time workers who invest their time and resources into a product. This is why I respect that the team is keeping their own pace at addressing issues, and that not everything has to go according to what the playerbase expects. However when a certain popular discussion or suggestion gets ignored by the staff in a platform specifically targeted at providing a place for (constructive) discussions, player feedback, and keeping an active community, I think it is fair for one side to feel left out from the conversation. In this community, I've realized that more people than one might assume are open towards a middle ground solution, and I believe that constructive discussions start at a point where all sides feel that their voices are heard almost equally loud. Again, I don't support an aggressive tone, however most people don't just go rage on others without a proper reason. This is the point I'm trying to make here. 2 hours ago, JoeW said: what causes your comments to be taken "one ear and out the other". On the other hand, while I think it is fair for you to paraphrase the OP's post in such a way in this specific scenario, this reply and the topic itself also raise the question on what one should be doing to get their voices heard to the developer team at all, especially in situations where the developer team seems to be content with the end results while a part of the community thinks that there is a game-breaking issue or an intended/unintended design that raises concerns where a certain aspect of the game is headed towards. The OP did get their answers in the end, and ironically we can see how this happened. No one expects a full transparency from Klei's side, but had the community have gotten an answer sooner, even a small one, I doubt this whole conversation would start in the first place. The core issue here is that a certain part of the community feels like their ideas don't matter at all, and to be honest I can relate to this. Even when we make a suggestion or post a bug report in the most civilised manners, the default result is either getting completely ignored (not even getting a "known issue" tag for example), or getting made fun of or sometimes even getting flamed by other forum users. When the staff stays silent in these scenarios, how is it even possible for the side with the "controversial" arguments to even get their voices heard, or to prove that their arguments are not controversial in the first place? The playerbase needs the feedback from the developer's to make their suggestions, and I don't think pointing out every aspect that we think is relevant is going to create the environment for a constructive discussion, exactly because of the situation I explained earlier. However, since we are going over to the forums to give our feedback and we keep on doing this despite the negativity and/or the indifference, I think it should be clear that we are doing this because we care about how the game developes, and seeing just a small amount of support from the staff for "controversial" people like us would not only help a lot in building a healthy environment for constructive discussions, but would also help us feel to be a part of a larger community. I hope I was clear enough in voicing my concerns here, and hope for any kind of feedback because I'm starting to feel like joining the forums and expecting to get heard by the staff was a big mistake on my part. This says the concern more eloquently than I do but if you want rage keep scrolling lol Honestly I cant believe this really is the case. Is this the reason klei is not talking? Because this is really how they want the game to play? A reason why people complain is because what was taken was actually something good in the game. Being able to have the animation be faster is good.... like just because the animation is slightly slower its a bug? LIke gosh dang are you guys actually developers? there is absolute reasons why the cancellation exists. It makes the game run and feel better to play..... The only real way the creators get to hear what happens in the game is through the players so Im here as a player to say klei Don't be head strong about this. Listen to the players that got 6 7... 8 years playing your game. alot of the times things seem like it goes one ear and out the other. It almost seems like you got distracted by trying to make the game look good. but completely ignored on how it plays. Edited January 26 by DVGMedia adding spoiler 11 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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