HowlVoid Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dollmaker said: Idk, that guy is really skinny, must be someone wearing a similar outfit if anything Wimpy Wolfgang? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollmaker Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, HowlVoid said: Wimpy Wolfgang? Is that even actually canon though? Its usually always Mighty Wolfgang who is shown in just about anything, shorts, art, etc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanKSB91 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Dollmaker said: Is that even actually canon though? Its usually always Mighty Wolfgang who is shown in just about anything, shorts, art, etc. I mean maybe he wasn't always big and that came with his years training in the circus. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblinball Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, lakhnish said: Wolfgang disappears circa August 23, 1904, as per William Carter Puzzle #4, which tells us a newspaper clipping about his disappearance due to a "dangerous obstruction on the tracks" (and is what I think the short will be about, ie him being sucked to the constant). We do also know that Charlie and Maxwell get sucked into the constant on April 17, 1906 thanks to this trailer, also courtesy of the William Carter puzzles. Wait, does this mean that Wolfgang has been in the constant longer than maxwell, and likely didn’t get sucked in by striking a deal with maxwell? I knew about the train fiasco but I never put the pieces together, I’m really excited for his short now! Also this implies poor Wolfgang didn’t even get told “you don’t look so good” by maxwell once he got sucked in the constant and was just stuck there by himself for an indeterminate amount of time (time in the constant is weird and independent of regular time iirc). Perhaps that’s why he’s scared of the shadows, he’s the only one of the survivors (excluding maxwell) to witness their uncontrolled wrath without someone on the throne to keep things in shape. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollmaker Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, IanKSB91 said: I mean maybe he wasn't always big and that came with his years training in the circus. Then why portray him as wimpy when hes is the Strongman already? I just feel thats just some random dude (in the poster) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanKSB91 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dollmaker said: Then why portray him as wimpy when hes is the Strongman already? I just fell thats just some random dude (in the poster) I guess you're right, that could be just an acrobat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 The figure on the poster seemed like Wes to me at first glance, so I've just kind of been assuming it was him. They wouldn't necessarily have to be familiar with eachother just because they worked in the same place...but it would provide for some potential connections regarding why they ended up in the Constant. Witherstone sold props; could've been involved with the circus as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollmaker Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, maradyne said: The figure on the poster seemed like Wes to me at first glance, so I've just kind of been assuming it was him. They wouldn't necessarily have to be familiar with eachother just because they worked in the same place...but it would provide for some potential connections regarding why they ended up in the Constant. Witherstone sold props; could've been involved with the circus as well. If i recall Wes ended in the constant by pure accident. He wasnt even chosen by Maxwell. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, Dollmaker said: If i recall Wes ended in the constant by pure accident. He wasnt even chosen by Maxwell. Yea, he ended up being taken in place of Witherstone, who...kind of had a loan shark vibe going on, and William owed money to. Wes himself was down on his luck; there may have been events that led to that...and he seems to have a bad luck streak in general, getting mixed up in misfortune as a matter of course. Thing is, Witherstone sold the kinds of things that a circus would also be interested in...so there may have been a point to showing him in Wes's trailer. The circus comes up again in the William Carter puzzles; the crash between a circus train and a passenger train being the moment that the aforementioned vanished, and The Great Maxwell emerged. Strong indications that he was, in fact, on that train via the images revealed at that time...along with the poster that's been shown here again. It's also the moment that he found a certain book. Regardless of what happens with Wolfgang, actually... We might get some Codex Umbra lore here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, maradyne said: on that train via the images revealed at that time...along with the poster that's been shown here agai Train crash as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coward Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Wolfgang was taken into the constant because he was probably hired as a debt collector for Mr.Witherstone (the guy that is almost got abducted in Wes' trailer), to knock out some money from William aka Maxwell. This is supported by one of the pics from William Carter puzzles. First two pages are important here: first page shows us that William has an overdue debt to Witherstone, since this is 1900s, 7 dollars is a serious sum of money. Second page is probably from Wolfgang, notice how it has spelling mistakes and how crudely it is written, it means that person who wrote this letter is either uneducated or not a native English speaker, or both (Wolfgang is most likely German). So the reason why Wolfgang got into the constant is the same as one as why Witherstone was almost abducted: Maxwell is just a vile man that wanted revenge (and playthings to torture in his world). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Dollmaker said: Is that even actually canon though? Its usually always Mighty Wolfgang who is shown in just about anything, shorts, art, etc. I don't see why it wouldn't be canon? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eughstein Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Wolfgang theory:He's hungry Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 is what makes me want this update that much i hope throne maxwell fan service, they nailed it with wigfrid's Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. brj Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 hours ago, lakhnish said: Wolfgang disappears circa August 23, 1904, as per William Carter Puzzle #4, which tells us a newspaper clipping about his disappearance due to a "dangerous obstruction on the tracks" Pretty sure it was Maxwell who disappeared during the crash, not Wolfgang. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakhnish Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, mr. brj said: Pretty sure it was Maxwell who disappeared during the crash, not Wolfgang. Oh shoot, I think you're right, since it describes a tall, nervous fellow, with an English accent. It couldn't be Wolfgang then. I've been misunderstanding it the whole time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas IV Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Thank you guys, this is really cool. Say no to War Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I love Don't Starve shorts and I love the circus so I'm very excited for it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 hours ago, lakhnish said: Wolfgang disappears circa August 23, 1904, as per William Carter Puzzle #4, which tells us a newspaper clipping about his disappearance due to a "dangerous obstruction on the tracks" (and is what I think the short will be about, ie him being sucked to the constant). I believe the missing man here refers to William Carter because it says the missing man was tall and had a British accent. William dropped out of sight for a while after the accident, then returned with the Codex Umbra. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakhnish Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Cassielu said: I believe the missing man here refers to William Carter because it says the missing man was tall and had a British accent. Yeah I realized that thanks to @mr. brj responding earlier. 3 hours ago, lakhnish said: 3 hours ago, mr. brj said: Pretty sure it was Maxwell who disappeared during the crash, not Wolfgang. Oh shoot, I think you're right, since it describes a tall, nervous fellow, with an English accent. It couldn't be Wolfgang then. I've been misunderstanding it the whole time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prajdo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Years ago I thought Wes and Wilbur were from the same circus as Wolfgang. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Prajdo said: Years ago I thought Wes and Wilbur were from the same circus as Wolfgang. Same; now thinking that his bad luck may have been due to exposure to the Codex/Shadows during the time before the crash. ...actually, the circus could go out of business due to Wolfgang going missing at a later date. Huh. Hope we get some new knowledge from this trailer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I love that the new teaser image confirms what I suspected all along: That ALL of the BIGTOP skin collection skins are from Wolfgang’s circus.. Thats a really huge lore drop- And it also makes all of his upcoming changes make more sense: He’s Always had his Circus/Gym Gear… same as how Willow has ALWAYS Had Bernie… They Just weren’t officially added to their gameplay: Until their DST Reworks. (you can prove this by looking at the character select screens from the original Dont Starve.. they’ve always been portrayed with these belongings/items.) This is how KLEI has always seen their characters outside of Gameplay, and it’s great their finally trying to implement that personality into their actual gameplay. Also Wolfgang’s “grows mightier on a full belly” compendium description is still intact: He still needs to burn through Hunger Meter to gain Mighty workouts- the more hunger meter he burns through the more mighty he gets (like how tents exchange HP & Sanity for Hunger) He STILL gets mightier the fuller his stomach is… Klei knows what they’re doing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. brj Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 hours ago, lakhnish said: Oh shoot, I think you're right, since it describes a tall, nervous fellow, with an English accent. It couldn't be Wolfgang then. I've been misunderstanding it the whole time. Still, Wolfgang was most probably in the very same train, and I hope we will get to see the Codex Umbra in the animated short. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Bun Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 17 hours ago, Dextops said: i really want to see his military background and not much else my worse fears are "wolfgang works at circus goofs up gets scared by something is fired and maxwell makes a deal with him" but i doubt that'll happen Same, I really hope that maybe it shows a little of the fact he was apart of the War or even the famine and thats why he feels like he must constantly be strong and the reason why he constantly eat from the PTSD he experienced. I know the trailer obviously wont show that and why (I believe he fled to the circus due to the fear of war and ran from it.) he joined the circus and got into the constant. It may just be light hearted and not say much more than the obvious, Wolfgang is strong man. 17 hours ago, VirgilEngineer said: I want this skin in the game, maybe make a nice Football Helmet skin to go along with it I've dreamt for this skin for yearssss, so glad we got Rose but would love this tooooo 17 hours ago, GetNerfedOn said: But the date where maxwell was taken, which was the San Francisco eq in 1906, came before WW1 which started 1914 The constant exist in its own bubble and time does not move, thats why its called the Constant. A long time ago it was already stated that everyone was taken from different times. Wolfgang was more than likely in WWI and grew up in the late 1800's and early 1900's. So yeah, and just as an extra reminder Wilson was in the timeline the last one taken, but each other were in their own sorta pocket dimension of the constant and DST brought them all together. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/135962-wolfgang-lore/page/2/#findComment-1520594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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