goatt Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 see the liquid amount CO2 pressure maybe 90g O2 pressure maybe 1000g ish it's big open space, setup is nothing peculiar. I also tried to reload game file, not helping. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Whats the pressure of the oxygen above? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 There's a tile of carbon dioxide above the water that can't go anywhere because of the oxygen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddler Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Liquids seem happy to compress based on gas pressure, it's a bit weird. I dropped a bunch of oil into a sealed pit of lava and the level of lava compressed down to a third of it's original size, displaced by the volume of gas created. Once I pumped the gas out the lava raised back to it's original level. That seems to be a bit at odds with how you'd expect liquids to function based on real life. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Waterfall mechanics.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacksaw12 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Have I missed something, or mis-remembered the way things were? Slimelung in clean water? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Smedstad Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, hacksaw12 said: Slimelung in clean water? While Slimelung won't stick around anywhere but in polluted oxygen or on slime, it takes a while to die. Since this is directly below a bottle emptier, it's likely that one or more Dupes carried water bottles while their hands had slimelung on them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Gus Smedstad said: While Slimelung won't stick around anywhere but in polluted oxygen or on slime, it takes a while to die. Since this is directly below a bottle emptier, it's likely that one or more Dupes carried water bottles while their hands had slimelung on them. Also, it can happen through the algae distiller. The slimelung covered slime will put slimelung in the polluted water, which can be sieved to water with slimelung. It could also be slimelung in CO2 and a carbon skimmer with a similar effect. EDIT Then I take a look at the picture again and see it's a bottle emptier so nevermind, you are probably right. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 @SharraShimada @beowulf2010 CO2 90g ish, O2 1000g ish. It's kinda a big open space, I just want to fill water up to 2 tiles, but it won't do it. Water pressure keeps going up until it breaks the tiles below or beside it, and gas leaks...... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Build a tile on top of the CO2. That deletes it. Then deconstruct the tile again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxCD Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Build a tile on top of the CO2. That deletes it. Then deconstruct the tile again. Was about to say it. Still, even I've no deep knowledge into physics, this one sounds weird, I agree. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, OxCD said: Was about to say it. Still, even I've no deep knowledge into physics, this one sounds weird, I agree. In the real world this would be impossbile. One can compress gas, but not liquid (at least not in normal circumstances). The result would be a compressed gas, while the amount of liquid will rise (in a closed system). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxCD Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 minute ago, SharraShimada said: In the real world this would be impossbile. One can compress gas, but not liquid (at least not in normal circumstances). The result would be a compressed gas, while the amount of liquid will rise (in a closed system). Exactly what I imply. No need physic degree to feel this mechanic from ONI kind of weird. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, SharraShimada said: In the real world this would be impossbile. One can compress gas, but not liquid (at least not in normal circumstances). The result would be a compressed gas, while the amount of liquid will rise (in a closed system). You don't even need to talk about gas compression. The real world has partial pressure, this game doesn't. End of story. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Yeah. It's a quirk of the gas emulation. Since CO2 is the heaviest common gas, it literally has no place to go but down and thus blocks an infinite amount of liquid pressure when there is only lighter gasses above it. Sometimes it will clear itself is there's another pocket or 2 of CO2 floating around in the oxygen, but the only consistent ways to fix this is to create a vacuum in the problem tile by either building and destroying a tile or just setting a square of vacuum via sandbox to get rid of the CO2 directly or to widen the top of the pool temporarily to allow the CO2 to slide out of the way and then rebuild the edge. This phenomenon is how some of us fill our infinite liquid storage containers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 There is a way to avoid the problem occurring in the first place. Build the pitcher pump on an airflow tile. That moves the CO2 into the airflow tile instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Saturnus said: There is a way to avoid the problem occurring in the first place. Build the pitcher pump on an airflow tile. That moves the CO2 into the airflow tile instead. I was just about to suggest this. Just give the CO2 somewhere to go and there's no problem. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abt9 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I wonder, would compression change water to special kind of ice? Ez ice maker if so >.> Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 16 hours ago, Saturnus said: Build a tile on top of the CO2. That deletes it. Then deconstruct the tile again. @OxCD I tried that, after destroyed the tile, water stayed in one tile. :/ Now i start to think it might be a bug. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Step 1: Build infinite liquid storage Step 2: Fill infinite liquid storage for ~500 days with constant 10kg/s liquid. Step 3: Break infinite liquid storage & set free the super compressed liquid. Step 4: Watch as your entire asteroid fills up with liquid. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 @Craigjw I'm using a different but boring method, store liquid in reservoirs, deconstruct the reservoirs, you get bottles of that liquid. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, goatt said: @OxCD I tried that, after destroyed the tile, water stayed in one tile. :/ Now i start to think it might be a bug. Tried the other method I suggested? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 @Saturnus No i haven't tried airflow, one because the space is too narrow for a pitcher, it's only 1 tile wide. two is because I wanted 2 tile high liquid, protecting tiles from breaking isn't my goal. If I can't achieve 2 tiles height, even tho the tile doesn't break, it doesn't work for my need. But thx for the suggestions Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelot Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Could you empty some polluted water too (better if over 1000kg). I'm curious if it would fill the title above or some water would be deleted or compressed Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, goatt said: @Saturnus No i haven't tried airflow, one because the space is too narrow for a pitcher, it's only 1 tile wide. two is because I wanted 2 tile high liquid, protecting tiles from breaking isn't my goal. If I can't achieve 2 tiles height, even tho the tile doesn't break, it doesn't work for my need. But thx for the suggestions What are you talking about? Tiles breaking isn't the the issue. The issue is the gas needs to move. And replacing the regular tile under the pitcher pump. And only that tile. Will achieve exactly what you want. I'm not talking about making any other changes. Just replace the regular tile directly under the pitcher pump with an airflow tile. The picture you provided shows that it's easily done. That will 100% guaranteed solve your problem. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105546-why-is-this/#findComment-1187647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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