DarkDeny Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1588146798 Just noticed this debuff when was checking stats of one dup, and besides this place - there is no any info on this debuff, not on barbeque itself, not in codex. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Well, it's been in the wiki for ages. Not that it means anything. https://oxygennotincluded.gamepedia.com/Soul_Food https://oxygennotincluded.gamepedia.com/Barbeque It should definitely be part of the codex though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakuraKoi Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Well, that's why I have been avoiding BBQ since ages long past... by the by, meanwhile Atmo and Jet Suits meanwhile add +10 to digging, not mentioned anywhere in-game either since I checked last~ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I avoid BBQ too, the debuff isn't worth it Better to use the peppernuts for stuffed berries and pepper bread Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyRighty Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 -2 athletics is that bad? you can tell the difference between an 18 and a 20 athletics dupe (+- attribute bonuses)? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xadhoom Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 i don't care about that -2 athletics, once you can start to reliably produce it your dupes will have enough athletics that the -2 is negligible. the -15% stress for 2 days can be useful in case you have some dupes with high stress for some reason. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurve Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, LeftyRighty said: -2 athletics is that bad? you can tell the difference between an 18 and a 20 athletics dupe (+- attribute bonuses)? Accept an anemic dupe, because the -6 athletics is at least better than another unconstructive. Watch them pass over the meal lice to grab barbecue for their first meal. Watch them immediately choose an errand requiring an atmo suit. Watch their little legs spin around and go nowhere. Every single time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 33 minutes ago, Lurve said: Accept an anemic dupe, because the -6 athletics is at least better than another unconstructive. Watch them pass over the meal lice to grab barbecue for their first meal. Watch them immediately choose an errand requiring an atmo suit. Watch their little legs spin around and go nowhere. Every single time. It's always the potato... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xadhoom Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 59 minutes ago, Lurve said: Accept an anemic dupe, because the -6 athletics is at least better than another unconstructive. Watch them pass over the meal lice to grab barbecue for their first meal. Watch them immediately choose an errand requiring an atmo suit. Watch their little legs spin around and go nowhere. Every single time. didn't they say that any negative amount is capped at -50% now? so even -6 should now only be -50% speed, even with exosuit? i have not tested it though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 It is a late game food when your dupes are running around at near full speed and the debuff does very little. if you give a fresh dupe that debuff and stuff them in a suit you are going to have problems. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 18 hours ago, DarkDeny said: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1588146798 Just noticed this debuff when was checking stats of one dup, and besides this place - there is no any info on this debuff, not on barbeque itself, not in codex. Remember it's a flat debuf, the dupes get 30 in the skill so -2 don't matter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallion Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 For a fresh dupe, It`s terrible, but for a skillful dupe, a tradeoff between -20% press with -2 Athletics and normal is obvious. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 And if you have tubes throughout your base, even the slowest dupe is going to be productive, suit or no suit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 All of a sudden, BBQ really sucks. I hadn't noticed this before and have been saving all my meat up for a BBQ day for my dupes. It's now going into the compost bin and my dupes can remain vegetarian. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1130880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurve Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 12:38 PM, Xadhoom said: didn't they say that any negative amount is capped at -50% now? so even -6 should now only be -50% speed, even with exosuit? i have not tested it though. I just did, it's not capped. You really feel that -2. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1131618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Lurve said: I just did, it's not capped. You really feel that -2. I once had a dupe with -110% movespeed. Back when anemic was -5 athletics. He still moved forward. Didn`t make to his destination before the night and didn`t make it to the bed before morning. ended up sleeping somwhere random. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1131756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakuraKoi Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Sasza22 said: Back when anemic was -5 athletics Back when? It's still to this date... and I am still mad about that. Spoiler (see version number on top, lying I ain't!) while Small Bladder is still literary nothing (0.2%, per cycle!) or Yokel is just the worst for blocking the Research Jobs =/=> Learn gain. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1131784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badimo Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 10:28 AM, Neotuck said: I avoid BBQ too, the debuff isn't worth it The debuff is totally worth it! Sure I might pack on a few extra pounds, but you only live once man. Nothing caps off a week better than a Kansas BBQ rack of ribs or a New York strip. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1131843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 5 hours ago, SakuraKoi said: Back when? It's still to this date... and I am still mad about that. Wierd i could have sworn it was -3 for a while already. Maybe they bumped it back to -5 when they capped it (or when they said it was capped ). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/100433-soul-food-nerfs-athletics/#findComment-1131921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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