Nativel Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Do we have any tungsten planets? Do any one have such planet in his game? I just started my world on betta test so probably I don't have because of that. Any one? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Nope. Wolframite is a limited resource. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickerooni Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Does the ??? on extra planets ever turn out to be anything after researching the planet? All I’ve ever seen is the ??? disappear to be replaced by nothing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Nickerooni said: Does the ??? on extra planets ever turn out to be anything after researching the planet? All I’ve ever seen is the ??? disappear to be replaced by nothing So far all the unknown planet components have been resolved into super components for me: fullerene, nobium, isoresin and abysalite. The first unknown gets revealed after the first or second research module is sent there. The last unknown gets revealed with the last research module. And you get only return cargo after you have discovered the material. So the "discovery trip" wont yield you any of the discovered materials. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nativel Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 How to melt insulation material? +3621C needed - not possible? I have enought tungsten. But just theoretically - is it possible to melt it or not? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakuraKoi Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 ??? becoming nothing should be a rare occurrence. In 6 maps I only had one which had none (a volcanic planet, I'd guess it was Abyssalite, see 2nd spoiler). Otherwise the split seems to be about 50/50 though 2 discovered appeared to be more (67/58). Niobium was also a bit more rare while others were about equal (40 to 48/52/52). Data in the spoiler Spoiler Mystery Count One ??? Two ??? Zero ??? Niobium Isoresin Fullerene Abyssalite Galaxy 1 12 8 0 3 11 8 6 Galaxy 2 9 12 0 7 9 8 9 Galaxy 3 12 11 1 4 9 10 11 Galaxy 4 12 11 0 9 6 7 12 Galaxy 5 6 15 0 10 6 11 9 Galaxy 6 7 10 0 7 7 8 5 Regarding the planets, another set of data which shows that there is no Wolf in space (all data, no tinkering, yet) Spoiler Planet Carbon Asteroid Metallic Asteroid Satellite Rocky Asteroid Ice Planet Organic Mass Dusty Dwarf Planet Volcanic Planet Gas Giant Ice Giant Terrestrial Planet Occurance 10k; 40k, 50k; 60k 20k; 40k; 50k; 60k 30k; 40k 30k; 40k; 50k: 60k 40k; 60k, 70k; 80k 50k; 70k; 80k 70k; 80k; 90k 90k; 100k 100k; 110k 100k; 110k 90k Composition 1 Refined Carbon Iron Steel Iron Ore Ice Slime Regolith Magma Natural Gas Ice Water Quantity (After) 26-46% (24-44%) 22-48% (20-36%) 29-45% (25-38%) 20-32% (17-31%) 19-30% (17-28%) 14-23% (14-21%) 25-41% (22-41%) 20-31% (18-29%) 37-63% (28-59%) 29-31.% (29%) 19-29% (19-28%) Cargo Bay Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Liquid Gas Solid Liquid Composition 2 Coal Copper Copper Copper Ore Carbon Dioxide Polluted Water Malific Rock Igneous Rock Hydrogen Carbon Dioxide Algae Quantity (After) 24-38% (21-36%) 22-43% (18-41%) 24-40% (21-38%) 18-30% (17-26%) 15-33% (13-30%) 14-26% (13-23%) 28-39% (26-38%) 22-29% (21-28%) 37-63% (35-57%) 18-19% (17%) 26-28% (21-27%) Cargo Bay Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Liquid Solid Solid Gas Solid Solid Composition 3 Diamond Obsidian Glass Sedimentary Rock Oxygen Algae Sedimentary Rock Obsidian Oxygen Oxygen Quantity (After) 25-43% (24-41%) 26-44% (20-43%) 22-41% (20-35%) 16-32% (16-28%) 19-35% (18-32%) 16-25% (15-25%) 28-41% (24-39%) 18-34% (16-32%) 25-29% (27%) 25-30% (24-28%) Cargo Bay Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Gas Composition 4 Igneous Rock Methane Carbon Dioxide Abyssalite Methane Dirt Quantity (After) 16-35% (14-35%) 18-31% (17-29%) 17-28% (15-26%) 19-29% (18-26%) 22-27% (21%) 16-25% (14-24%) Cargo Bay Solid Solid Gas Solid Solid Solid Composition 5 Polluted Oxygen Quantity (After) 17-27% (15-27%) Cargo Bay Gas Mystery 1 Abyssalite Fullerene Fullerene Fullerene Abyssalite Isoresin Fullerene Isoresin Abyssalite Abyssalite Abyssalite Quantity (After) 10-16% Trace Amount Trace Amount Trace Amount 8-13% 5-8% Trace Amount 5-9% 15-24% 14% 11-12% Cargo Bay Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Mystery 2 Isoresin Isoresin Isoresin Abyssalite Isoresin Niobium Abyssalite Niobium Isoresin Fullerene Fullerene Quantity (After) 7-10% 7-9% 7-11% 8-13% 4-9% 1-2% 9-19% 2-3% 10-16.% Trace Amount Trace Amount Cargo Bay Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Mystery 3 Niobium Abyssalite Niobium Niobium Fullerene Abyssalite Niobium Fullerene Fullerene Isoresin Isoresin Quantity (After) 3-5% 12-17% 2-5% 2-3% Trace Amount 9-12% 2-4% Trace Amount Trace Amount 5% 7% Cargo Bay Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Mystery 4 Fullerene Niobium Abyssalite Isoresin Niobium Fullerene Isoresin Niobium Niobium Quantity (After) Trace Amount 3-5% 10-23% 5-10% 2% Trace Amount 5-12% 5-6% 2-3% Cargo Bay Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Resource 1 Smooth Hatch Stone Hatch Worth Seed Gassy Moo Blossom Seed Weight Cargo Bay Bio Bio Bio Bio Bio Resource 2 Sleet Wheat Grain Gas Grass Seed Fry Egg Weight Cargo Bay Bio Bio Bio Sample Size 20 12 12 15 14 11 13 7 7 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wachunga Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Nativel said: How to melt insulation material? +3621C needed - not possible? I have enought tungsten. But just theoretically - is it possible to melt it or not? Contrive to get liquid niobium into pipes (wolframite pumps take overheat damage but continue to pump for a long time or exploit a pump's large input area). Use a metal refinery to heat that liquid niobium. Run it through a normal insulation pipe. Add heat as necessary with the metal refinery until the insulation pipe melts. Voila! This is totally impractical and silly, but very doable. I've used the same process to remove steel ruins (desks and light fixtures) by melting them in a legit survival game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 hours ago, blash365 said: The first unknown gets revealed after the first or second research module is sent there. The last unknown gets revealed with the last research module. Actually, it's random for each planet. If you look at the planet, you will see 5 research "topics". Those with "(?)" next to them must be researched to unlock the new materials. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, wachunga said: Contrive to get liquid niobium into pipes (wolframite pumps take overheat damage but continue to pump for a long time or exploit a pump's large input area). Why would you want to use an "exploit" which requires you to invest so much time if there is a much easier way: I prefer the killn to melt my wolframite/tungsten but that´s not the important part. Keep in mind a (liquid/gas) pump has a dectection and an absorption range, which are not the same => You can pump liquids without a pump inside the liquid you want to pump 33 minutes ago, wachunga said: This is totally impractical and silly, but very doable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wachunga Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Lilalaunekuh said: You can pump liquids without a pump inside the liquid you want to pump Yes I know, that's what I meant when I said a pump's large input area. I don't know where you are going with the kiln. The question is how to melt insulation not wolframite. Melting insulation turns it into tungsten. Insulation is renewable while tungsten is not (except by melting insulation or abyssalite). So when you run out of tungsten you need a way to melt insulation. The problem is you need to create very high temperatures in a very non-conductive material. A metal refinery solves the temperature part and a normal pipe solves the conductive part. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Lilalaunekuh said: I prefer the killn to melt my wolframite/tungsten but that´s not the important part. How do you get a kiln to do that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 13 hours ago, wachunga said: I don't know where you are going with the kiln. The question is how to melt insulation not wolframite. Yeah, but part of your discussion was how to fill the pipes and which liquid would be prefered to use => I use a killn inside a vaccume to create liquid tungsten to pump around xD (Considering our goal is to increase the available amount of tungsten, maybe not the "optimal" choice^^) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1113998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wachunga Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I follow now, thank you. Hence the discussion about pump range as that method would be required with liquid tungsten. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1114103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellshound38 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Liquid Tungsten from Volcanic Planets as the only renewable source would be an interesting addition and challenge to deal with. Make this happen. Or a critter from Vocanic planets that eats magma and poops Liquid Tungsten? Even better. Could just make it a hatch to save effort.... Lava Hatch Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1114823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hellshound38 said: Liquid Tungsten from Volcanic Planets as the only renewable source would be an interesting addition and challenge to deal with. Make this happen. Or a critter from Vocanic planets that eats magma and poops Liquid Tungsten? Even better. Could just make it a hatch to save effort.... Lava Hatch I can only imagine the shenanigans players would get up to if they were able to legitimately get their hands on piped liquid metal. There would be challenges involving melting every single kg of material in the asteroid, and spacing it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1114829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakuraKoi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, crypticorb said: I can only imagine the shenanigans players would get up to if they were able to legitimately get their hands on piped liquid metal. There would be challenges involving melting every single kg of material in the asteroid, and spacing it. One day we will be able to legitimately reach 9726.9°C and dupes will be like... Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98347-tungsten-planets/#findComment-1114847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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