ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) I do hate none of these materials can be applied on more simple machinery like pumps. Because you know, that's the only thing those materials would now be handy for. I get you want to move super insulating stuff to extremely high tech. But why aren't we getting this for a liquid pump to pump up magma, or why aren't we getting this stuff for the thermo aqua tuners. Edited October 4, 2018 by ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggles Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Draquila said: Oh, I actually like this. Abyssalite was always kind of ridiculously strong for how easily you can get it. Ceramic is a good substitute for most applications, isn't it? I agree. I hope Klei take the same approach to the whole raw material group and encourage more manufacturing chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiPhemyst Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Draquila said: Oh, I actually like this. Abyssalite was always kind of ridiculously strong for how easily you can get it. Ceramic is a good substitute for most applications, isn't it? Not very well suited for Iron volcanoes - the iron is usually hotter than ceramic melting point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpe12 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, KiPhemyst said: Not very well suited for Iron volcanoes - the iron is usually hotter than ceramic melting point Obsidian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiPhemyst Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Alpe12 said: Obsidian. Obsidian Insulated tile has conductivity of 0.02 while Ceramic Insulated 0.006 - quite a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafker Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Klei updated main screen music!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpe12 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, KiPhemyst said: Obsidian Insulated tile has conductivity of 0.02 while Ceramic Insulated 0.006 - quite a difference But since insulated tiles use a different way to calculate temperature exchange I don't think in practice it makes a noticeable difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draquila Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Alpe12 said: But since insulated tiles use a different way to calculate temperature exchange I don't think in practice it makes a noticeable difference. It's 3x less effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleus M Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowdesign Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) On 10/4/2018 at 8:48 PM, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: I do hate none of these materials can be applied on more simple machinery like pumps. Because you know, that's the only thing those materials would now be handy for. I get you want to move super insulating stuff to extremely high tech. But why aren't we getting this for a liquid pump to pump up magma, or why aren't we getting this stuff for the thermo aqua tuners. use mods https://github.com/javisar/ONI-Modloader Edited October 8, 2018 by Rainbowdesign 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggles Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, KiPhemyst said: Obsidian Insulated tile has conductivity of 0.02 while Ceramic Insulated 0.006 - quite a difference I think the point was that the melting point of obsidian pipes is higher. Obsidian is 2700c+. Ceramic is 1500+. Edited October 4, 2018 by Moggles 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rainbowdesign said: use mods... I think that can be answer to everything. I like this endgame approach where you can create the ultimate materials, but the scope of being able to use them is rather unimpressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Moggles said: I think the point was that the melting point of obsidian pipes is higher. Obsidian is 2700c+. Ceramic is 1500+. Where do you get all of these information (short of experimenting in game)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiPhemyst Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Moggles said: I think the point was that the melting point of obsidian pipes is higher. Obsidian is 2700c+. Ceramic is 1500+. Yes, it won't melt, but it will leak heat. I did some testing in debug mode, as I have not used insulated tiles ever, since abyssalite 'was' superior - after two cycles ceramic tile gained 0.1c and some obsidian tiles gained up to 1c. Oddly not all tiles of my tank are the same temperature... Did some 'heat gunning' - I think we'll be fine unless we go above 10,000c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Raptor Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Um, How do you order an astronaut to exit the command module? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, KiPhemyst said: Did some 'heat gunning' - I think we'll be fine unless we go above 10,000c Game limit is 10000K so 10000C equals insta-crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiPhemyst Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Saturnus said: Game limit is 10000K so 10000C equals insta-crash Just double checked - does not go above ~9,700, but does not crash either - had heatgun setting at 99999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Argelle said: Where do you get all of these information (short of experimenting in game)? its in the tool tips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 So I answered my own question, it appears seeds are fine, the starmap will be heavily altered for you. The larger problem now is that new maps have given up on chlorine/hydrogen in the Jungle biome and have been hit by a giant space vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, KiPhemyst said: Just double checked - does not go above ~9,700, but does not crash either - had heatgun setting at 99999 Pretty much what I said. Since 10000K is the limit, it would crash if you could make it 10000C. Edited October 4, 2018 by Saturnus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I think you will need to generate a new colony to get the shove vole. The tooltip mentions it burrows at the surface, and it does eat regolith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakuraKoi Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just tested Meteors... I sure will refrain from having any drop wherever there is a back wall. I do not want that iron&rock gas, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiPhemyst Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: I think you will need to generate a new colony to get the shove vole. The tooltip mentions it burrows at the surface, and it does eat regolith! Poops out 500% of it too Edit: they might have added one too many zeroes... Edited October 4, 2018 by KiPhemyst 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy said: I think you will need to generate a new colony to get the shove vole. The tooltip mentions it burrows at the surface, and it does eat regolith! Shove Vole is a meteor eater, and is not currently spawning on the map outside of getting it via rockets... which I can't do because my current map that can actually launch a rocket is running at 0.5 FPS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToiDiaeRaRIsuOy Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, WanderingKid said: Shove Vole is a meteor eater, and is not currently spawning on the map outside of getting it via rockets... which I can't do because my current map that can actually launch a rocket is running at 0.5 FPS. I always supported Klei for using the logging tools. They need that data. But... It's not playable this way. I think Klei will get little data if people refrain from running the update. Aside a very quick run with debug tools, I will not do a lot of testing myself. I simply cannot because the extremely low fps makes me unable to test out the features in any reasonable way. I'm sorry to the developers for saying that, but I think they consider either doing something to boost FPS while running the logging tools, or disabling the logging tools. But the current situations makes me, and probably the vast majority, unable to test out this preview branch in proper. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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