Should Pierogis Be Changed?

[dzzydzzy]

I know this will be controversial because of how much of an easy healing item these things are, and meat-based at that (Wigfrid mains). My gripe is that I love pierogis in real life and the in-game recipe makes absolutely no sense. 

For those who don't know, Pierogis are a Polish dish that are adorable little pillows of potato and onion. They can have meat in them but the average pierogi doesn't usually have it in them, (that sounds more like a dumpling to me). As a reminder, the DST recipe for pierogis is .5 meat, 1 egg, .5 veg, and 1 filler. The reason this recipe is the way it is probably stems from the fact that potatoes and onion were not introduced until RWYS update, whereas pierogis have been around since the dawn of time. 

Now in my opinion the recipe should be egg, potato, onion, and filler and it would be a vegetarian dish. The problem with that is that the stats would need an update to incentivize making it over just cooking 2 potatoes for a better yield in stats boost. It'd be great if it gave 50 hunger, 5 sanity, and 40 hp. This would be worth it, because you're doubling your single potato into 2, plus the spoilage time is way longer. (20 days for pierogis, 6 days for cooked potatoes)

But what about Wigfrid mains? Why not just change the dish to Wontons? It would have the same stats/recipe as the pierogis we know and love today, just basically having a different sprite and name.

I might be alone in this, but my love for Pierogis pushes me to speak up.

[_zwb]

9 minutes ago, dzzydzzy said:

My gripe is that I love pierogis in real life and the in-game recipe makes absolutely no sense. 

Pressure Klei to make every single feature cultural accurate? Count me in /j

Edited October 14 by _zwb

[lenship2]

2 minutes ago, dzzydzzy said:

The problem with that is that the stats would need an update to incentivize making it over just cooking 2 potatoes for a better yield in stats boost.

what if they gave slightly higher sanity? a value like 20-30 sanity could compensate the change in recipe and make them still valuable :>

[Brago-sama]

8 minutes ago, _zwb said:

Pressure Klei to make every single feature cultural accurate? Count me in /j

Id love a cooking update. Theres soooooo many things you could add to the system. And well, theres also those recepies that kinda suck too

Edited October 14 by Brago-sama

[Frosty_Mentos]

Nah. It's a reliable classic food.

[dzzydzzy]

26 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said:

Nah. It's a reliable classic food.

feels like you didn't even read the post. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

[MostMerryTomcat]

If realistic accuracy was a thing I doubt DragonPie would amount to 1 fruit and 3 twigs boiled in pot. Realism should not factor that much.

[BezKa]

Pierogi is already plural. The "s" at the end is redundant.

1 hour ago, dzzydzzy said:

potato and onion

Depends where you live or what you like. I ate meat pierogi almost exclusively all my life (mostly because we made them from the meat leftover from the soup and also because they taste the best.) The second most popular in my circle is cabbage and mushroom, and don't forget all the possible variants of fruit fillings, and that you can put cheese in them as well.

So the logic of changing stats or recipe based off real life would require you to make several variants of the same dish for nothing. As for whether they should be changed sorely to become a veggie dish, or change stats to compete with potatoes, I never really cared about those kinds of things so I'll leave that to others to discuss

[Notecja]

1 hour ago, dzzydzzy said:

For those who don't know, Pierogis are a Polish dish that are adorable little pillows of potato and onion. They can have meat in them but the average pierogi doesn't usually have it in them

Correction: we can do pierogi with as much anything as Brits can do pudding from anything. My favourite are fruit pierogi and last time I made them with whole strawberries and served with sugar and cream on top, but for my dad I make meat-veggie pierogi, and for christmas whole family is making cabbage and mushroom pierogi. Also in my family we have even more eastern recipes for pierogi, which are tiny, made with raw meat and after cooking you get a pierog with ball of meat and soup inside.

Edited October 14 by Notecja

[Cheggf]

Pierogi often have meat so the current recipe works. Just because they can have potatoes and onions doesn't mean they have to. 

[Jakepeng99]

2 hours ago, dzzydzzy said:

I know this will be controversial because of how much of an easy healing item these things are, and meat-based at that (Wigfrid mains). My gripe is that I love pierogis in real life and the in-game recipe makes absolutely no sense. 

For those who don't know, Pierogis are a Polish dish that are adorable little pillows of potato and onion. They can have meat in them but the average pierogi doesn't usually have it in them, (that sounds more like a dumpling to me). As a reminder, the DST recipe for pierogis is .5 meat, 1 egg, .5 veg, and 1 filler. The reason this recipe is the way it is probably stems from the fact that potatoes and onion were not introduced until RWYS update, whereas pierogis have been around since the dawn of time. 

Now in my opinion the recipe should be egg, potato, onion, and filler and it would be a vegetarian dish. The problem with that is that the stats would need an update to incentivize making it over just cooking 2 potatoes for a better yield in stats boost. It'd be great if it gave 50 hunger, 5 sanity, and 40 hp. This would be worth it, because you're doubling your single potato into 2, plus the spoilage time is way longer. (20 days for pierogis, 6 days for cooked potatoes)

But what about Wigfrid mains? Why not just change the dish to Wontons? It would have the same stats/recipe as the pierogis we know and love today, just basically having a different sprite and name.

I might be alone in this, but my love for Pierogis pushes me to speak up.

Wait until you find out you dont need peppers for guacamoley, but can away with using a mole and cactus. (Ik stone fruit exists)

[JustAFlower]

Let's get a cooking update, because with my understanding of physics, a glass jar can't appear out of nowhere when you make jelly beans in real life.

Edited October 14 by JustAFlower

[Brago-sama]

Im surprised nothing foodwise came of the jar. Itd be so easy to make jam, yogurt, or pickles

[hoppin mandrake]

The only time I thought of real food while playing DST is when I made salsa fresca I got a huge craving for salsa so I went out and bought a 32oz container of salsa from a local Mexican restaurant. Apparently Salsa fresca is also known as pico de gallo and I got that too with my chimichangas.

2 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Pierogi often have meat so the current recipe works. Just because they can have potatoes and onions doesn't mean they have to. 

Yep some do. We used to have polish fest where I live and people brought perogies of all kinds. One had polish sausage (kielbasa) and sauerkraut inside. I don't know if that's traditional but they were delicious.

Edited October 14 by hoppin mandrake

[BalkanCockroach]

1 hour ago, JustAFlower said:

Let's get a cooking update, because with my understanding of physics, a glass jar can't appear out of nowhere when you make jelly beans in real life.

Let's also get a sanity update, because with my understanding of psychology when you are crazy and see shadow creatures they shouldn't be able to actually kill you.

lol this is a game where, a giant two-legged rhino with fur lives underground in a biome that ancient bug people built. And we are discussing a dish not being culturally realistic.

[Mysterious box]

I'm all for it I'd say it's a good chance to get a cooking update that rebalances all the crockpot dishes as I feel there's absolutely no good reason why every crockpot dish that isn't wet goop or monster lasagna isn't at least better than the sum of their parts. 

[mr. brj]

9 hours ago, dzzydzzy said:

They can have meat in them but the average pierogi doesn't usually have it in them

To be fair the avarage guacamole doesn't have a mole in it

[Mysterious box]

7 minutes ago, mr. brj said:

To be fair the avarage guacamole doesn't have a mole in it

[Tranoze]

This will happen if you want everything in game to be accurate to the real life thing:
Should Torch Be Changed?
I know this will be controversial because of how much of an easy lightning these things are, and grass-based at that (wormwood mains). My gripe is that I love torches in real life and the in-game recipe makes absolutely no sense. 

For those who don't know, Torch are a global tool that are adorable little wood piece of fire and destruction. They can have grass in them but the average torches doesn't usually have it in them, (that sounds more like a campfire to me). As a reminder, the DST recipe for torch is 2 twigs and 2 grass. The reason this recipe is the way it is probably stems from the fact that twigs and grass were introduced since BETA update, whereas torches have been around since the dawn of time. 

Now in my opinion the recipe for torch should be logs + wax + thick fur and it would be a light source for half a day. The problem with that is that the stats would need an update to incentivize making it over just burning 1 twig on ground for a better vision in light aura. It'd be great if it gave light around players. This would be worth it, because you're doubling your single log into 2, plus the burn time is way longer. (torch burn way longer than burning twig on ground)

But what about wormwood mains? Why not just change the torch to burning twigs on ground? It would have the same light aura as the torch we know and love today, just basically having a different sprite and name.

I might be alone in this, but my love for Torches pushes me to speak up.

Edited October 15 by Tranoze

[maradyne]

16 hours ago, dzzydzzy said:

But what about Wigfrid mains? Why not just change the dish to Wontons? It would have the same stats/recipe as the pierogis we know and love today, just basically having a different sprite and name.

excuse me sir and or madam the only valid wontons are those filled with cream cheese and maybe crab or shrimp or green onion and that is it
nothing else accepted
ok nice talk glad we agree thank you

[CameoAppearance]

I'm against drastically altering the stats or recipes of crockpot dishes from the original game on principle, and I don't think it would be helpful balancewise. I do agree that the original recipe doesn't make much sense, but oh well.

In real life most of the pierogi I've had didn't have onions but they did all have potatoes, so if somehow it was changed anyway, I think only the potato should be required. (The ones with onions were tastier, but most of them were just full of cheese and potato.)

[Mysterious box]

2 hours ago, CameoAppearance said:

I'm against drastically altering the stats or recipes of crockpot dishes from the original game on principle, and I don't think it would be helpful balancewise. I do agree that the original recipe doesn't make much sense, but oh well.

In real life most of the pierogi I've had didn't have onions but they did all have potatoes, so if somehow it was changed anyway, I think only the potato should be required. (The ones with onions were tastier, but most of them were just full of cheese and potato.)

I'm more so on the camp that there shouldn't be a bad proper crockpot dish sure it's fine to have some better than others but every crockpot dish should have the standard that they're at bare min better than what you put into them so long as they're not mistake dishes I don't think we particularly need to tweak the recipes but it would be good if we at least tweaked the stats to reflect this.

[SapoLover]

Pierogi cannot change. People would jump to their necks the second they think about nerfing their precious classic reliable memorable almost-free long lasting easy to mass-produce main healing source.

Edited October 16 by SapoLover

[Baark0]

Probably not. While it may not be 100% accurate, this is a game where you can eat a jar of jelly beans and heal off wounds inflicted by creatures ten times your size. Ultimately Klei likely has more important things to work than accuracy of every dishes recipe.

[Cheggf]

4 hours ago, SapoLover said:

Pierogi cannot change. People would jump to their necks the second they think about nerfing their precious classic reliable memorable almost-free long lasting easy to mass-produce main healing source.

Pierogi is one of the most expensive ways to heal.