Maxwell Main Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 I know the nightmare creatures, broken clockworks, ancient guardian phase 2, fuelweaver, and nightmare werepig are. And I assume shadow splumonkeys are also shadow aligned, correct me if I’m wrong. For the lunar aligned enemies I know crabking, celestial champion, and the salamanders are. And I assume the brightshades and new rift enemies are. Again, correct me if I’m wrong though. But are there any others I’m missing? Maybe the twins are also shadow aligned? They do drop the shield of terror which is considered shadow equipment for Maxwell so I’m not sure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Currently as of writing this post... Shadow Aligned: Daywalker. 'Big shadow tentacle' (I think this is for AG.) Nightmare Bishop. Nightmare Knight. Nightmare Rook. Ancient Guardian. Nightmare/Shadow creatures. Shadow Channelers. (Unseen hand.) Shadow Chesspieces. Shadow Tentacles. Shadow Leeches. Stalkers. (Fuelweaver.) Now for Lunar Aligned: Celestial Champion. Mutant Birds. Carrat. Crab King Claw. Crab King. Saladmander. Gestalt. Greater Gestalt. Mutant Hounds. Mutant Pengulls. Brightshades. Grazers. Molebats. Mushgnome. Mutated Spider. Lunar Wobster. And that's it! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 The moon-quay creatures also come out of a rift, would that be neutral aligned or more on the lunar side? I know it's currently not on any side, just asking me this question now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frashaw27 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, ShadowDuelist said: The moon-quay creatures also come out of a rift, would that be neutral aligned or more on the lunar side? I'd say they'd be more neutral because while the new lunar creatures and the monkeys come out of rifts, they both were created and sustained for different reasons. The lunar creatures started spawning in the constant because alter wanted to do something with the survivors, while the moon-quay rift came about from Wagstaff messing around with the stored lunar power that backfired. The lunar alter seems to actively alter the world around it and changes the world to be more lunar. The moon-quay rift seems to be just something that occasionally sucks in monkeys and resources for no rhyme or reason. In short, they don't really seem to have any strong affiliation between either faction because they were just kinda dropped into world as the result of someone else's actions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Main Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 50 minutes ago, -Variant said: Currently as of writing this post... Shadow Aligned: Daywalker. 'Big shadow tentacle' (I think this is for AG.) Nightmare Bishop. Nightmare Knight. Nightmare Rook. Ancient Guardian. Nightmare/Shadow creatures. Shadow Channelers. (Unseen hand.) Shadow Chesspieces. Shadow Tentacles. Shadow Leeches. Stalkers. (Fuelweaver.) Now for Lunar Aligned: Celestial Champion. Mutant Birds. Carrat. Crab King Claw. Crab King. Saladmander. Gestalt. Greater Gestalt. Mutant Hounds. Mutant Pengulls. Brightshades. Grazers. Molebats. Mushgnome. Mutated Spider. Lunar Wobster. And that's it! Thank you! That’s really helpful! How did you get the info on all the mobs if you don’t mind me asking? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, Maxwell Main said: How did you get the info on all the mobs if you don’t mind me asking? I'm reading the code and tags that dictate which is which internally. I left out the armors, and just listed the mobs and what all actually counts code wise towards being 'aligned'. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Wormwood should be considered lunar alligned tbh Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudoku Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 still think that shadow aligned creatures should have a black transparenty shadowy aura around them and lunar aligned should have a glowy white one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Main Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, -Variant said: I'm reading the code and tags that dictate which is which internally. I left out the armors, and just listed the mobs and what all actually counts code wise towards being 'aligned'. This might be a stupid question, but how did you view the code and tags that tells you which is which? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 hours ago, -Variant said: Ancient Guardian. Has it always been? Or is it only when it's in phase 2? The developer's description in the previous update announcement led me to believe that it was. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 35 minutes ago, Cassielu said: Or is it only when it's in phase 2 Should only kick in during the second phase. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuaichuai Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Interesting that Splumonkies still aren't shadow-aligned. ...Does it not count because it's a temporary effect from the ruins? Very curious if there's a lore reason or... why exactly. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Zeklo said: Does it not count because it's a temporary effect from the ruins? This shouldn't be the case. As far as I know Ancient Guardian only becomes shadow-aligned once he starts bleeding nightmare fuel. So it is possible, from a technical standpoint, to change a mob's alignment on the spot Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Szczuku said: This shouldn't be the case. As far as I know Ancient Guardian only becomes shadow-aligned once he starts bleeding nightmare fuel. So it is possible, from a technical standpoint, to change a mob's alignment on the spot I more so mean lore-wise rather than mechanically. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KXWl1 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 The twins is not even from the Constant, so they are not shadow aligned for lore-wise. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloopah Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 9 hours ago, chuaichuai said: Unfitting choice of background for shadow-aligned. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dois raios Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, KXWl1 said: The twins is not even from the Constant, so they are not shadow aligned for lore-wise. But you put nightmare fuel in the terrarium and corrupted the tree. Edit: I said they drop nightmare fuel, but they dont. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloopah Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, dois raios said: the twins also drop nightmare fuel. They don't. They drop Gears, Frazzled Wires, Electric Doodads, the Gem of the Twin's "pupil" and when the other is dead the Shield of Terror. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 10:49 AM, bloopah said: Unfitting choice of background for shadow-aligned. Devs might want to add a side outline for those. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147403-which-enemies-are-considered-shadow-aligned-and-which-are-lunar-aligned/#findComment-1632811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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