About King Crab

[Dextops]

33 minutes ago, Theukon-dos said:

Or make a video essay on why AFW is fundamentally flawed in execution. At worst, all I see is people complain that turn of tides made it so so that you can't dodge the bone cage attack anymore.

pretty sure orange had a bit about his complaints in his video yesterday so there is that

[Baark0]

Gems should strengthen and weaken him, like purple gems summon more geysers, but weaken his claws, either by reducing their hp, damage, how many spawn, etc. I'd also like to see the trident be an indestructible weapon that you can socket a gem into and it would gain new effects, like mobs drop more loot with green gems, it's damage becoming electric with a yellow gem, etc. You might say that this sounds op, and to that I say: yeah, it would be, but thats the beauty of dst being a pve game, you can add overpowered things in order to make the game more fun.

[mr. brj]

6 hours ago, Guille6785 said:

-Yellow/blue/purple: Honestly no idea

Make yellow gems change the timer in 0.5 steps (or even 0.25 per gem, as opposed to per 2 gems), rescale the freeze range and freeze resistance per blue gem into a more reasonable interval, substract 2 from the current number of geysers per purple gem.

[ZombieDupe]

Aside from the obvious imbalance and bad loot, 3 other changes must be made to make the fight interesting in my opinion. For me, without the former 2 ideas below it doesn't feel like a complete boss, more that it's bugged and is the way it is because it was never patched enough.

* Crab King should move

* Crab King should submerge and emerge but not underneath a boat

* We need stationed ranged weapons aside from Winona's catapults, or the whole ranged weapon system to be reworked. I can imagine this would be a lot of fun if 1 or 2 players have to navigate the boat while others try to deal damage to it and do much more reasonable repairs to the boat

Also any combination of gems should always be doable. There is also the issue of rarity for certain gems making certain fights costlier not just in combat but in loss of rare gems as well.

[Spino43]

The only saving grace of Crab King is it's the only mob in the game where Bee Mines are viable against.

[Cheggf]

Just now, Spino43 said:

The only saving grace of Crab King is it's the only mob in the game where Bee Mines are viable against.

Bee mines are viable against every mob in the game.

[Cannoli]

13 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Bee mines are viable against every mob in the game.

No, they aren't.

[Cheggf]

5 hours ago, Cannoli said:

No, they aren't.

Oh right I don't think they'd hurt bee queen. Bee mines are viable against every mob in the game except bee queen.

[LiamAshvinn001]

Maybe an update for Malbatross AND Crab King. While, admittedly, I havent fought them yet im too incompetent, from what ive seen they really need to be reworked. Malbatross should have higher spawn chance and Crab King's gem stats has to be changed and maybe Pearl could also show the player where he is on the map. And also new loot added.

[Cheggf]

2 hours ago, LiamAshvinn001 said:

Malbatross should have higher spawn chance

Where did you see someone complain about malbatross' spawn chance? 

[SonicDen220]

3 hours ago, LiamAshvinn001 said:

maybe Pearl could also show the player where he is on the map.

If you already found celestial sanctum pieces on the main land and celestial altar pieces on lunar island, astral detector is going to point towards crab king.

[Kelloggs Dogfry]

On 3/5/2022 at 11:27 AM, Guille6785 said:

 

These suggestions would honestly make him a lot better for solo play. The healing is 50% of the problem for solo play and then the other 50% is the claw health. I’m biased because I always do this fight with one other person and I absolutely love it, but I want other people to be able to appreciate it too lol. I hope we can get this across to the devs somehow. 

[jan Mele]

On 3/5/2022 at 10:27 PM, Guille6785 said:

I even tested it with anim cancelling

This is a thing? Wow.

[BOT Tuja]

15 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Where did you see someone complain about malbatross' spawn chance? 

The spawn chance is bad, and there are people complaining about it. It took me like 30 fish and 5 shoal visits, to still not spawn it, and just use the world settings, and set it to lots.

[Guille6785]

31 minutes ago, jan Mele said:

This is a thing? Wow.

best case scenario it lowers attack interval from 0.46666 seconds to 0.4 so not the most useful thing in the world lol

[ShadowDuelist]

I think the point of being able to socket different gems to it, was that you can make the fight as hard as you want. Problem is, unlike misery toadstool, there is no reward in doing so.

They should probably add different loot to different combinations of gems, so there isn't a single way to obtain all CK's loot:

• Pearled will always give you all the quest items no matter the gems used. 
• Trident will always drop no matter gems used
• All purple gems, or no particular combination of gems will grant a generalist loot (probably a map for a sunken chest somewhere) 
• A specific combination of colors (up to 3 different combinations) will grant an extra map for another sunken chest. This second sunken chest will have something unique, so to get all his loot you have to fight it at least 3 times.

Also, another very important change:

On 3/5/2022 at 6:55 PM, Baark0 said:

I'd also like to see the trident be an indestructible weapon that you can socket a gem into and it would gain new effects, like mobs drop more loot with green gems, it's damage becoming electric with a yellow gem, etc.

This. Basic trident could deal undestructible spear damage (both in land and water), BUT if you socket gems, the gems will add damage (it changes depending on the gem)  and add different effects to the trident and the special attack. 

[GamePlayer42]

On 3/5/2022 at 4:09 PM, Ohan said:

i wasn’t aware socketing different gems in a moonlens gave u different gameplay effects? 

Moonlens is hardly what I had in mind. The act of socketing the gem is superfluous and inconsequential for anything other than map markers. Recipe for moondial might as well have been moon rocks ice and a blue gem and nothing would have been different.  

I was talking about an item or structure where u can put different gems into according to what effect u want and also be able to swap them out when the gems run out of juice and u want a different effect. Something like this does not exist in the game. 

the winina machin

On 3/6/2022 at 7:31 PM, Cheggf said:

Oh right I don't think they'd hurt bee queen. Bee mines are viable against every mob in the game except bee queen.

but they arent absolutely great against every enemy, since it will die easily against aoe foes and also gets killed by things that have high health

[Cheggf]

17 minutes ago, Treeomp said:

but they arent absolutely great against every enemy, since it will die easily against aoe foes and also gets killed by things that have high health

Yeah a lot of the time they're more trouble than they're worth but they can kill just about anything. 

[Guille6785]

2 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Yeah a lot of the time they're more trouble than they're worth but they can kill just about anything. 

fists are viable

[LiamAshvinn001]

20 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Where did you see someone complain about malbatross' spawn chance? 

Return of Them: REVIEWED (yes, all of it) [Don't Starve Together] - YouTube

Ranking Every Boss in Don't Starve - YouTube

I watch too much DST, and since I havent fought him yet Im probably wrong 

[Cheggf]

7 hours ago, Guille6785 said:

fists are viable

Quite a bit worse than bee mines but yeah. It's a pve sandbox, everything is viable.

[QuartzBeam]

The make-your-own-boss concept is great, but for it to work, you would need the boss's standard form to be relatively easy, so that it would then fall to the players to decide which aspects they want to make hard.

The Crab King, however, starts out being overwhelming and only gets worse from there, with half the options essentially being a death sentence.

[dubious little]

On 3/5/2022 at 8:11 PM, Theukon-dos said:

Also, Sailing's bad in general, and I'm not sure what you're on about with "Players don't like putting much effort to accomplish something"

Whats wrong with sailing? You don't have to use an oar if you hate using one, but if you're fine with using one then driftwood one is actually pretty fast and easy to get. The boat mechanics themselves seem completely fine to me, the issues for me however come from the oceans lack of content, it feels like you're aimlessly moving around. This isn't helped by the fact that you can guarantee find the lunar islands and Pearls island literally gets marked on the map, so theres nothing to explore besides 2 bosses and a singular biome which you get like 3 per world.

(nvm you actually respond to someone else saying this that I missed, I'm also unsure if I can even delete forum posts so, rip.)

[Cheggf]

7 hours ago, dubious little said:

Whats wrong with sailing? You don't have to use an oar if you hate using one, but if you're fine with using one then driftwood one is actually pretty fast and easy to get. The boat mechanics themselves seem completely fine to me, the issues for me however come from the oceans lack of content, it feels like you're aimlessly moving around. This isn't helped by the fact that you can guarantee find the lunar islands and Pearls island literally gets marked on the map, so theres nothing to explore besides 2 bosses and a singular biome which you get like 3 per world.

(nvm you actually respond to someone else saying this that I missed, I'm also unsure if I can even delete forum posts so, rip.)

You can click options under your post then hide to delete it, but I think mods still see it. As long as nobody responds to you while quoting your entire post it'll be hidden from everyone else. 

[lakhnish]

12 hours ago, QuartzBeam said:

The Crab King, however, starts out being overwhelming and only gets worse from there, with half the options essentially being a death sentence.

I remember back in the beta, PCK has lower stats. Then the day the beta went to the main-branch, Klei omega buffed him and I had to scrap my guide for him. I didn't really understand why they buffed him since I felt like his stats were good during the beta.

It's probably too late to go back to their stats and some tech has since been discovered since then, so idk what Klei should do to make this fight not be in its current state.