sakura_sk Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 46 minutes ago, babba said: If you like, load my last save My save files are usually 0-10 MB. I once loaded a save around 25 just to see it load. I wouldn't dare try to open anything above 30 Sorry... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, babba said: I yet could not find the file where I configure the terra size in the latest base game update are you talking about dlc or base game self? dlc one should be this VanillaSandstoneDefault.yaml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) I mean the base game - I can not find the 3 default worlds which currently show up in the main menu of the latest version of the base game I had checked in sandbox a bit earlier if its currently or forever the intention to keep it one size value to modify...It seems like it for now, at least until perhaps until more dlc`s come out someday. So if we find that size value in a file, its just halfing it for fps sufferers.I mean the world in the base game is small by default already Can it be that they use some asteroid yaml map value(s) or have they banged in some value somewhere else, which they use for the 3 base game worlds form the main menu ? Cant find where they are taking the size from... Are they nowadays taking the values from various places, like from example the subworld files ? OxygenNotIncluded_Data\StreamingAssets\worldgen\subworlds\oil as example ? The Terra base game world has oil at the bottom... @gabberworld Edited July 17, 2021 by babba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, babba said: Base game - I can not find the 3 default worlds which currently show up in the main menu of the latest version of the base game. @gabberworld Terra = SandstoneDefault.yaml Oceania = Oceania.yaml Rime = SandstoneFrozen.yaml Verdante = ForestLush.yaml Arboria = ForestDefault.yaml Volcanea = Volcanic.yaml The Badlands = Badlands.yaml Aridio = ForestHot.yaml Oasisse = Oasis.yaml that should be it, they seems change those little bit , was harder find out what is what 37 minutes ago, babba said: Are they nowadays taking the values from various places, like from example the subworld files ? OxygenNotIncluded_Data\StreamingAssets\worldgen\subworlds\oil as example ? The Terra base game world has oil at the bottom... @gabberworld yes they take info from those other files as well , its been always like that as far i know. you could make own map as well like that, like this minimapdlc is done Edited July 17, 2021 by gabberworld 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gabberworld said: Terra = SandstoneDefault.yaml Oceania = Oceania.yaml Rime = SandstoneFrozen.yaml Verdante = ForestLush.yaml Arboria = ForestDefault.yaml Volcanea = Volcanic.yaml The Badlands = Badlands.yaml Aridio = ForestHot.yaml Oasisse = Oasis.yaml that should be it, they seems change those little bit , was harder find out what is what yes they take info from those other files as well , its been always like that as far i know. you could make own map as well like that, like this minimapdlc is done Thanks @gabberworld I forgot a lot of stuff, its so many years ago...Back then it didn`t make much difference when they banged on further small tile amounts to the main file. Must say...the base game map is small compared to the dlc stuff. Nowadays with the multiple dlc asteroids, that pulls a big total tile chunk. Wrapping it up: I someone wants to heavily reduce tile amount of the terra base game map, one needs to reduce the size of the SandstoneDefault.yaml The files to edit can be found here: \OxygenNotIncluded_Data\StreamingAssets\worldgen If one wants to spend more time on further reducing tile amounts, then its editing the sizes stuff of associated yaml file ( lava, geysers etc. ). Its a bit of work and requires some time to see how the map generation then plays out practically, but its still basic text editing of clear text values. I find it is worth to spend some time on reducing map tiles, doubling the fps is always fun if one is suffering...At least for me Playing my monster size map now Edited July 17, 2021 by babba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 also when you make map size change, it not affects your current saved games, its only the new one what you start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab1 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Base game saves are marked as save game for space out dlc. I dont have spaced out dlc. I tried to play the game with the new breath of fresh air update but it somehow ruined the save game file too. Now i cant access the save game file created in the base game even with the use of "public_previous_version" of steam. This seems like gross negligence on part of the developers or done with malicious intent to force the users of base game shift to spaced out. (Dont be like APPLE KLEI). Either way this has been worst update in the history particularly in the manner in which it is implemented. No advanced heads-up to users, unwanted changed to the base game which should have been part of the dlc, no option to rollback. The developers are really ruining their reputation. LEAVE THE BASE GAME ALONE. We purchased it and we dont want anymore of your "updates" Save game file attached. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z1mzGE-vW7FC_cnj17NSBEDZd1r9g8AK/view?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Also, what @gabberworld greatly mentioned with the animations - If one wants to get further FPS out of the system, perhaps there is mods which disable things like the games animations and such. So if one is interested one can dig the Steam Workshop or this ONI forum deep to figure out other ways and means to get more FPS out of the game. There is also various posted threads and the entire internet on how to find out to get more out of a system`s hardware for gaming, I love my +40% FPS ONI tuned computer. Wantz to play my map now ! Huuuuungrrrryyyyyyyy for ONI YES ! Edited July 17, 2021 by babba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egolayer13 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Whoa, I don't know what happened after yesterday's patch but my map is suddenly getting 45 FPS instead of 25. I have not reverted to the previous version. This is excellent news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, babba said: Also, what @gabberworld greatly mentioned with the animations - If one wants to get further FPS out of the system, perhaps there is mods which disable things like the games animations and such. So if one is interested one can dig the Steam Workshop or this ONI forum deep to figure out other ways and means to get more FPS out of the game. There is also various posted threads and the entire internet on how to find out to get more out of a system`s hardware for gaming, I love my +40% FPS ONI tuned computer. Wantz to play my map now ! Huuuuungrrrryyyyyyyy for ONI YES ! they probaply can increase allot performance by disable animation for those what you cant see in screen, i can play my 7000 cycle game kind off good tho soo it not that bad atm Edited July 17, 2021 by gabberworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, gabberworld said: they probaply can increase allot performance by disable animation for those what you cant see in screen, i can play my 7000 cycle game kind off good tho soo it not that bad atm Still haven`t got to play ONI...Doh ! You want to share your save file here ? I find save files great to snoop around and peoples can also reference for FPS and such on their systems, a 7000 cycle base sounds exciting Only if you want, no pressure Edited July 17, 2021 by babba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, babba said: Still haven`t got to play ONI...Doh ! You want to share your save file here ? I find save files great to snoop around and peoples can also reference for FPS and such on their systems, a 7000 cycle base sounds exciting Only if you want, no pressure yeah sure, why not. The Swanky Planetbackup.sav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Thank you Will check it out. I just had a curious peek at converting 2017 ONI saves of mine, hard to figure out for me what the converter actually did with it. Ah I see, converting of base game files works in the dlc mode...Loading works switching back from dlc to the base game, got it `` Ah the result of my 2017 saves is as expected, chrrrrchrrrrrrhahaha Its old museum saves. I`m doing it for giggles anyway, maybe the problem was that I started the conversion in dlc mode and then loaded it in base game mode. Maybe these saves actually would have worked until recently, who knows Whatever, need to check gabbers world save...That is more interesting @gabberworld Hahaha, I love that loading your save directly starts with an alarm sound, yellow alarm screen frame and tons of regolith trash dropping from the sky ! Thats a sweet action cookie, already loving it Can`t wait until we get Plutonium ! Need to snoop your base out in detail ...Love your rocket parking lot ! Edited July 17, 2021 by babba 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, babba said: Thank you Will check it out. I just had a curious peek at converting 2017 ONI saves of mine, hard to figure out for me what the converter actually did with it. Ah I see, converting of base game files works in the dlc mode...Loading works switching back from dlc to the base game, got it `` Ah the result of my 2017 saves is as expected, chrrrrchrrrrrrhahaha Its old museum saves. I`m doing it for giggles anyway, maybe the problem was that I started the conversion in dlc mode and then loaded it in base game mode. Maybe these saves actually would have worked until recently, who knows Whatever, need to check gabbers world save...That is more interesting i try 2019 version ones what i have, and those are not better im not able play because i just cant close that popup what is in screen, ---- never mind, esc button worked for that. 20 minutes ago, babba said: @gabberworld Hahaha, I love that loading your save directly starts with an alarm sound, yellow alarm screen frame and tons of regolith trash dropping from the sky ! Thats a sweet action cookie, already loving it Can`t wait until we get Plutonium ! Need to snoop your base out in detail ...Love your rocket parking lot ! thanks, its kind basic game play, no hurry with mass dupe army @babba does it run smoothly for you? Edited July 17, 2021 by gabberworld 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Great that your stuff works @gabberworld Its the first time in ages I`m seeing the base game in action again...With your save file. I`m loving it, thank you very much for sharing It reminds me of all the map work I put in to stuff before the dlc. You have got wonderful rocket automation in your save file ! Map nitpicking below is only for Klei`s base-game-update performance and user complaint reasons on the game: Its mega obvious for me how drastic the change for players must be, for those complaining about the complexity and mega grind of the dlc. Sure, DLC is great...But user complaints of "Its 2 different games" are understandable. The basic game seems like a relaxing casual game compared to the DLC, me looking at it after half a year. I directly had to think of looking at Tetris with your map ( some overwhelmingly great Tetris game/map ! ) My idea would be that this exact map(size), and its map features, should be better presented... in a very nice way within the dlc as welcome screen. Currently the dlc menu choice design style between classic and dlc is IMHO disappointing and boring. As people are coming from the base game, Klei should offer this choice screen with better and heartful design presentation in the dlc - Perhaps even with speech lines as one hovers above the 2 play style choices menu in the dlc, making it clear to the player what these 2 choices ( classic or dlc ) are about. Your base game map ( 30 FPS here/30MB save ) is running with less than expected frame rate, compared to my personal dlc play experience. I think Klei will ( hopefully ) soon/someday get 30-60% more FPS out of the base game mode. Looking at the amount of built stuff, things hopping,falling and flying around, your automation - Klei is clearly currently FPS under performing in the updated base game mode. @Ipsquiggle Save file re-attached if Klei want to use it for their FPS work. P.S. dlc owners would like to also see another min. +30% fps speed (rather soon™) Gamers are a greedy lot ! gabberworld base game map.sav Edited July 17, 2021 by babba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, babba said: Great that your stuff works @gabberworld Its the first time in ages I`m seeing the base game in action again...With your save file. I`m loving it, thank you very much for sharing It reminds me of all the map work I put in to stuff before the dlc. You have got wonderful rocket automation in your save file ! Map nitpicking below is only for Klei`s base-game-update performance and user complaint reasons on the game: Its mega obvious for me how drastic the change for players must be, for those complaining about the complexity and mega grind of the dlc. Sure, DLC is great...But user complaints of "Its 2 different games" are understandable. The basic game seems like a relaxing casual game compared to the DLC, me looking at it after half a year. I directly had to think of looking at Tetris with your map ( some overwhelmingly great Tetris game/map ! ) Your base game map ( 30 FPS here/30MB save ) is running with less than expected frame rate, compared to my personal dlc play experience. I think Klei will ( hopefully ) soon/someday get 30-60% more FPS out of the base game mode. From the amount of built stuff, things hopping and flying around, your automation - Klei is clearly currently FPS under performing in the updated base game mode. @Ipsquiggle Save file re-attached if Klei want to use it for their FPS work. gabberworld base game map.sav 29.62 MB · 0 downloads they fixed finally the Tagbits issue in base game only as well, this save game crashed all the time before this update. it was fixed in dlc tho at sometime ago also makes me fonder, im only one who actually play this? as i not seen that someone else reported that issue , lol Edited July 17, 2021 by gabberworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer EricKlei Posted July 19, 2021 Developer Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 3:28 PM, SVV said: Am I the only one who got strange background colors for biomes with update? Just want to confirm that Ocean, Rust, and Forest received new backgrounds as they were previously using the Sandstone background. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, EricKlei said: guys maybe you want disable v-sync for game? i think it was enabled by mistake when you switch to new unity engine? someone complain about that 60fps limiting tho game fill start use allot cpu when its enabled soo dunno Edited July 19, 2021 by gabberworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Mandor Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Are there any way to turn off this "backgrounds" completely? After digging cells away they look uniformly ugly 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldDan Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Oh, this is fun. The liquid pump is slowly making infinite nuclear waste. It picks up 39.6g of waste. This turns into packets of 39.6g and 26.4g in the pipe. Then 39.6g leaks out of the pump. With a blank in between, it's averaging 22g/s. Ok, it eventually stopped, but we produced a couple hundred KG before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randalin Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 In addition to making the resources list far less useful (it used to be collapsible, sorted by type, and a simple mouse over would show how much was allocated to tasks vs. how much I had [like how much aluminum {refined} ] vs. now I have to go to a menu and add the specific resource to be viewed, so I constantly must revise that list.) The consumables still don't line up. HOW many updates has this gone through? I clicked the icon for MEAT, to make it non-consumable, because I want to make it only edible after it is cooked to Barbecue... This is the display that results. Before and after. Tell me this makes sense. Meat, Mushbar, or Muckroot allowed? The icons don't align over the column they are 'checked' yes or no on. The first column appears to be "Meal lice" but the game won't render it as an icon? I've been dealing with this for over 3,000 hours of play (I haven't dared look at my played time on steam for a long time now) Meal lice USED to be an icon. But even then the columns never lined up in the last 1,000+ hours of play. Apparently the icon for meal lice vanished in the recent update, complicating matters more. First column is Meal Lice, but the first icon is Nutrient Bar.which is now the second column? It was difficult enough (if I were one of those who actually micromanaged "this duplicant can eat this, but this tasteless duplicant will eat that" type of player. But this is a bit ridiculous. They used to be half column offset, now they are 1 1/2 column offset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 10 hours ago, randalin said: The consumables still don't line up. HOW many updates has this gone through? I don`t have this issue. What is your aspect ratio? Maybe it doesn`t resize properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 38 minutes ago, Sasza22 said: What is your aspect ratio? In 1366x745 windowed in DLC it's been like that for some time now. Usually when grupfruit preserve is discovered everything aligns again but vanilla doesn't have that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumPion Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I am noticing quite worse performance as well. I have a 5900X so my system is no slouch. My colonies seem to crawl down to 20-25 fps once they get around 100 cycles old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, QuantumPion said: I am noticing quite worse performance as well. I have a 5900X so my system is no slouch. My colonies seem to crawl down to 20-25 fps once they get around 100 cycles old. this kind stuff may also happen because off poorly coded mod, soo question is to you have any mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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