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Grifting through the files (aka Datamining)

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RageLeague    1485
1 minute ago, SpicyNiceCream said:

Oh I didn't know that, I just thought Sal and his sis have quite different eyes.

I came to that conclusion from looking at patterns. Look at the compendium and look through all the kradeshi characters. Might be hard to do since you can't sort characters by species.

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Sei Bellissima    1016
38 minutes ago, SpicyNiceCream said:

You can find Mullifee's game model in the game already.

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They don't exactly look like siblings for some reason.

 

I saw her .tex files when I was looking at the scripts but I didn't have the game on to see. Neat to see what she looks like, though!

38 minutes ago, SpicyNiceCream said:

They don't exactly look like siblings for some reason.

10 minutes ago, RageLeague said:

Other than gender difference, their facial features matches, more or less.

Yeah I see quite the resemblance; Vix is the one that doesn't really look like the others (But we don't have a front-on look of him yet so it's kinda hard to tell)

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iLoveBees    28

After going through some UI elements for adding to the wiki, I found a few interesting Faction name tidbits

  • The Spree faction was called Fleadhusk Bandits
  • The Admiralty faction was called Newdeltree
  • The Spark Barons faction was called Clust Tycoons (as I interpret it, in the file it reads tycoon_clust). The name change came later than the Spree and Admiralty changes
  • The Jakes faction file name is smugglers_jakes, implying it was a whole faction of smugglers, as opposed to only some of them now

And thank you Sei for showing us how to access these files <3

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Wumpus the 19th    1237
2 hours ago, iLoveBees said:
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  • The Admiralty faction was called Newdeltree

I remember the game said something about how to mainland where the admiralty came from is named "deltree". Calling the admiralty "new" deltree could have some big lore implications if we're to take this early name as canon or a possible part of the canon. Maybe deltree was named deltree during the vagrant age, and so when they came and went, the admiralty stepped in to try and return deltree to whatever authority it had before.

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Sei Bellissima    1016
1 hour ago, iLoveBees said:
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After going through some UI elements for adding to the wiki, I found a few interesting Faction name tidbits

  • The Spree faction was called Fleadhusk Bandits
  • The Admiralty faction was called Newdeltree
  • The Spark Barons faction was called Clust Tycoons (as I interpret it, in the file it reads tycoon_clust). The name change came later than the Spree and Admiralty changes
  • The Jakes faction file name is smugglers_jakes, implying it was a whole faction of smugglers, as opposed to only some of them now

And thank you Sei for showing us how to access these files <3

 

The Spree and the Admiralty ones make sense; seeing as the Sprees have Fleads fighting alongside with them a lot, and the Admiralty is from Deltree. And no problem :D 

4 minutes ago, Wumpus the 19th said:
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I remember the game said something about how to mainland where the admiralty came from is named "deltree". Calling the admiralty "new" deltree could have some big lore implications if we're to take this early name as canon or a possible part of the canon. Maybe deltree was named deltree during the vagrant age, and so when they came and went, the admiralty stepped in to try and return deltree to whatever authority it had before.

 

That's right; this is specifically what the game says about it (from general.yaml):

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    title: Deltree 
    trigger: Deltree|Deltrean Mainland|Mainland
    body: |
        The most powerful nation in the world, located on the mainland across the sea.

Throwing a theory out here; since the Admiralty wants to make everyone in Murder Bay Deltrean citizens, were they perhaps planning to rename Murder Bay to "New Deltree"?

Anyhow, I'm gonna get some more ripped images posted in a bit, for now, here's the games pool of pet names!

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Absey
Bort
Cadaver
Deek
Eddies
Higgs
Jelling
Loomin
Mulch
Neerie
Oarth
Pupp
Quelt
Rink
Snappy
Tumms
Ultivanator
Vulkron
Wilson
Xymbot
Zeff
Lumpy
Squiggles
Killer
Chomps
Buttercup
Deathface
Meatshield
Higgsbury
Meatloaf
Turnip
Teddee
Buhdee
Toby
Milo
Mochee
Diplo
Warts
Carapace
Stinker
Doppler
Bubbles
Squeegee
Squawkit
Fluffy
Algaenon
Hierodytus
Spoops
Radar
Gasket
Tricks
Ace
Suzette
Beatrix
Lenore
Carrion
Hellion
Quark
Evicerator
Tiny
Squirt
Pokey
Puppo
Doggo
Scratch

 

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minespatch    86690
3 hours ago, iLoveBees said:

The Spree faction was called Fleadhusk Bandits

I remember Fleads being important back when I saw the Jouste art streams back in 2017.

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TaschDraws    763

Yo @watermelen671 thanks so much for the assist on the fonts I'll test them out!

On 7/18/2020 at 8:06 AM, iLoveBees said:

I'm currently diving into the wiki and trying to update and spruce up as much as I can (it's not exactly up-to-date) and I would love to use certain game icons to help with readability.

And hey @iLoveBees you have much Wiki experience? I'm on a pretty novice level with wikis so I'd actually love to lend a hand and get more comfortable with it (plus I'm already studying UI design on the side, so I can definitely edit or knock out assets for the wiki interface without a problem) :D

Feel free to hmu and I can send you my discord handle!

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Sei Bellissima    1016

I had a Vroc named Teddee in my last Sal run. When I went to pick it up from my room once it gained the ability to speak in full sentences, lol

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On 7/18/2020 at 10:06 AM, iLoveBees said:
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These are a treat to see, thank you

I'm currently diving into the wiki and trying to update and spruce up as much as I can (it's not exactly up-to-date) and I would love to use certain game icons to help with readability. Can you provide any UI files (like the icons for shills, battles and negotiations, choices, buffs and debuffs, etc.), or teach me how you access these images? I could just use Photoshop, but I'm not that adept at it and I doubt they would look as good as the source files.

 

Sorry I missed this, I didn't get the notification for some reason. If you don't already have it here's a bunch of UI stuff from ui.tex:

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And now, for those images I promised earlier... I found some interesting stuff in the "story" folder that appears to depict Sal's journey from the derricks to Murder Bay (Be warned, these pics are kinda big).

sal_prologue_1:

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sal_prologue_2:

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sal_prologue_3:

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sal_prologue_4:

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In other news, I learned a bit of C# today. Not as hard as I thought it would be but I am nowhere near to being able to try and read those animations files.

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Wumpus the 19th    1237
5 minutes ago, minespatch said:

I remember that!

not all of it is play-by-play, although i hope some of what they had finds it way into the game again. i know the yotelope is somewhere in the game's release build, else why would we have yotelope horns as an item card...(please klei).

other forms of relatively cool things that could come up would be the "getting a bottle for the yote's head". i'd see this as either a free drink wherever or as a free cup of hard liquor to befriend someone. also a pistol admiralty unit as well as that snazzy bayonet rifle. the prison system also seems interesting, although i think someone else already did that as a mod.

hesh, get REAL ambitious, and add some form of the free roam mechanic that old griftlands seemed to have. doesn't need to be fancy, but all that artwork just seemed too good to be thrown in the proper lumin disposal bin.

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minespatch    86690
1 minute ago, Wumpus the 19th said:

hesh, get REAL ambitious, and add some form of the free roam mechanic that old griftlands seemed to have. doesn't need to be fancy, but all that artwork just seemed too good to be thrown in the proper lumin disposal bin.

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I even drew a concept skeledork based on the world map anatomy of characters. It's on Thunderdummies tumblr.

https://thunderdummies.tumblr.com/post/187681637159/griftlands-used-to-have-a-world-view-with#notes

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iLoveBees    28
8 hours ago, TaschDraws said:

And hey @iLoveBees you have much Wiki experience? I'm on a pretty novice level with wikis so I'd actually love to lend a hand and get more comfortable with it (plus I'm already studying UI design on the side, so I can definitely edit or knock out assets for the wiki interface without a problem) :D

Feel free to hmu and I can send you my discord handle!

Nice! I'm totally new to wiki editing, but I'm learning as I go. Right now I'm just focused on uploading UI elements and creating templates. The current admin has been AWOL for the last couple months so I'm looking into getting them back. My handle on the wiki is Yudrig.

@Sei Bellissima

I made an AutoHotKey script for easier file extraction if you're interested. For some reason it doesn't work within the debug command, but it helps with making the commands for the extraction without a lot if typing/copy-pasting. 

Just make sure you name your notepad "Paste" and do something in it without saving so it gets the asterisk in it's name. Then change the destination in the script to match the data.zip file like "ui" or "icons/quests" or whatever. Also change "data.zip" to a different one depending on the zip file. Then just press F7 and it'll automatically create the necessary command for extraction in the notepad (it will copy the file BELOW the currently selected one). Then just keep pressing F7 until you have them all for that folder. Let me know if there's any issues.

Copy Paste Extract Command.ahk

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Sei Bellissima    1016
8 hours ago, iLoveBees said:
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Nice! I'm totally new to wiki editing, but I'm learning as I go. Right now I'm just focused on uploading UI elements and creating templates. The current admin has been AWOL for the last couple months so I'm looking into getting them back. My handle on the wiki is Yudrig.

@Sei Bellissima

I made an AutoHotKey script for easier file extraction if you're interested. For some reason it doesn't work within the debug command, but it helps with making the commands for the extraction without a lot if typing/copy-pasting. 

Just make sure you name your notepad "Paste" and do something in it without saving so it gets the asterisk in it's name. Then change the destination in the script to match the data.zip file like "ui" or "icons/quests" or whatever. Also change "data.zip" to a different one depending on the zip file. Then just press F7 and it'll automatically create the necessary command for extraction in the notepad (it will copy the file BELOW the currently selected one). Then just keep pressing F7 until you have them all for that folder. Let me know if there's any issues.

Copy Paste Extract Command.ahk 783 B · 0 downloads

 

Hey, thanks for this, however whenever I try it, it always outputs this:

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granted I did have to change the script a little to get it to detect the windows, but otherwise I'm not too familiar with AHK. Am I just using it wrong?

Edit: I suppose I should add that after this is pasted my laptop tries to open the selected .tex file (which it can't do because I have no default program set)

Edit 2: Nevermind, I see the problem; I have to press down and hold a function key on my laptop (labeled "fn") to use F keys. as it stands right now, all it does it darken my laptop screen when it gets to the F2 copy command, lol. Do you know the syntax for the fn key?

Edit 3: I'm an idiot. It doesn't work directly in the zip file, lol

Ignore everything I said. I got it working now XD

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iLoveBees    28
1 hour ago, Sei Bellissima said:

Ignore everything I said. I got it working now XD

Oh thank Hesh. I don't think I couldn't have easily troubleshooted for you. This was literally my first script and it took me an hour just to figure out how to get it to change windows. I'm happy it's working for you 

Also, am I the only person who never noticed the Spark Barons symbol is the Shills symbol with a cog?? 

Faction_spark_barons.png?version=b3bd28f

I only actually realized because of this quest icon

Quest_rise_trade_secrets.png?version=529

I feel like a dumbass haha

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Sei Bellissima    1016

I never noticed the shill icon on the Spark Barons' icon either! It fits them, for sure, haha

8 hours ago, ResettePlayer said:

image.png.6a009c441a795d4ced0ba70c59212af2.png I love this

That was definitely a placeholder for something lol. I haven't extracted it by itself yet though so I'm not sure exactly what it is.

Anyhow, new Smith cards!

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That reminds me, I gotta share some more card icons. Maybe tomorrow... I wanna go to bed :P

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Mooagain    2493
On 7/20/2020 at 12:06 PM, iLoveBees said:

Also, am I the only person who never noticed the Spark Barons symbol is the Shills symbol with a cog?? 

I never noticed that either! I also thought the Rise logo was a beach ball

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Sei Bellissima    1016
39 minutes ago, Mooagain said:

I also thought the Rise logo was a beach ball

To be fair it kinda does look like one lol

All the little faction icons are kinda charming, ngl. Some good UI design right here

faction_rentorian.png.fb8207e3c575d93165264408e691f90f.pngfaction_rise.png.bf062b38554d9fd84bcef670cb6f2b51.pngfaction_smugglers_jakes.png.ea203ff78b17724b5bd437095f4ec1a8.pngfaction_bandits_flead.png.26bf183e0b864b3774b3770f6557914f.pngfaction_bilebrokers.png.cced8f22abf98e7fc1fd9a8604796af8.pngfaction_boggers.png.125334f8a854ef514361e537f6d64a19.pngfaction_citizen.png.8bba58166759c78a811c6d8a68ccaed4.pngfaction_cult_of_hesh.png.8fd63ef2c98391b84a26e8e8c3565012.pngfaction_grifter.png.130ebedf880942e2eff82b6b99e5a329.pngfaction_newdeltree.png.9711dfb80b0b299d69f1fdb55f7cb1f4.png

And now more card icons! And they're all Smith because I know how much we love him lol

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Szczuku    16625

Does anyone know if anything special happens when you spare Day 1 boss as Rook? Any way you can benefit from sparing them?

Cuz I know that as Sal you can meet Day 1 and 2 bosses later on. But so far nothing like this for Rook.

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pacovf    915

Hmmm...

Guesthouse Vacation Stay Miyajima, Hatsukaichi, Japan - Booking.com

Inspiration for the Jake icon?

(edit: changed picture)

The Spree symbol is likely a flead, Bilebrokers is a stomach. I never noticed the Rentorian one was also a bug of some kind. I hope we meet them!

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