minespatch Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 https://store.steampowered.com/app/1063980/Hell_Architect/ @Canis brought this to my attention. The reason I'm not showing art is due to the images being nsfw. Still, the characters look like they rip off dupes and mechanics, including the generator. I looked through Playway's catalogue, and they seem to be ripping off other publishers. I hope Klei looks into this. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 The reason why this is uncanny is because the "dupe-likes" in this game look VERY similar to ONI dupes, to the point where the inspiration is undeniable (They say that they were inspired by ONI at the bottom of the store page, but this feels too blatant to get away with). Also a heads up, do not click that store link if you're sensitive to blood, gore, torture implications, or nudity. Edit: Also, according to the store page, PlayWay SA is the publisher, Woodland Games is the dev. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Well, there is this thing called a "citation" in the arts. It is not a rip-off, it is expected and it perpetuates things and keeps things evolving. For it, you take some elements of one or several existing works of art and combine them in a different way and add other elements as well. My take would be that is what is going on here. Now, if they had made a game that was basically a copy of ONI, that would be different. But that is not the situation. I also think the similarity to ONI dupes is vastly overstated. If you take "small human" as baseline, one could even say the claim of similarity specifically to ONI dupes is pretty much nonsense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angpaur Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Nice advertisement you made for them. Now I wanna play that game too. And claims about any rip-off are much exaggerated. Art style looks similar and inspiration is clear, but calling the game as whole as a rip-off is just dishonest. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Angpaur said: Art style looks similar and inspiration is clear, but calling the game as whole as a rip-off is just dishonest. Guess I'm in the wrong. Sorry. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angpaur Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, minespatch said: Guess I'm in the wrong. Sorry. Don't worry, you are right to have own opinion and when you share it with other, then the others are right to share their own. If you are able to hear the others and then maybe adjust your opinion, if they convince you, then there is nothing wrong here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Completely different game style. You dont build a colony, you build hell. With everything thats in it. And Klei had not invented the hamster wheel :P Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, SharraShimada said: And Klei had not invented the hamster wheel :P I don't think hamster wheels have powered generator bars... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Block Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, minespatch said: I don't think hamster wheels have powered generator bars... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpy Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Looks cheap and unpolished That game gave me feeling like someone did it in a week and put up crude video. I think ONI will be fine. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, cpy said: That game gave me feeling like someone did it in a week and put up crude video Agreed. I like the concept but it looks like they heavily lifted from ONI because they didn't want to push further on the idea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedix Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Yeah, I'm sure ONI has nothing to be afraid of the spin-off. And those guys do say that they've got their inspiration from games like Dungeon Keeper and ONI so ... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 12 hours ago, minespatch said: I don't think hamster wheels have powered generator bars... Have you never played Wiggles? ONI is rather a spinoff of this game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angpaur Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Hamster generators in games date to at least 1993 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone1112 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 This is like the third time that I see someone, allegedly, complaining about how similar those two games are, even though I don't see that much resemblance. Conspiracy theory mode on: maybe the game dev team is purposely accusing themselves with random created account in this forum to promote their game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Someone1112 said: maybe the game dev team is purposely accusing themselves ??? I don't work for the company. It was Canis who brought it to my attention. I was in the wrong because I was thinking with emotion rather than taking some time to think about it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredhp Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 "Hell Architect is a title inspired by games such as Dungeon Keeper, Oxygen Not Included and Prison Architect but does everything in its own, hellish style." Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1338911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamLogan Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Day one Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1339014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Before oxygen not included there was craft the world Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1339345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, RonEmpire said: Before oxygen not included there was craft the world https://store.steampowered.com/app/248390/Craft_The_World/ They don't look alike. Similar mechanics maybe but this looks like a original game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1339354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurve Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Klei should take it as a compliment: their gameplay is well-realized enough it inspired someone to go and code their own knockoff dupes just so they can properly torture the little bastards for peeing in the water tank. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1339361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpy Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 There is also one really really simmilar game to ONI but you have first person control like Terraria, it's in early access but I forgot the name. I also didn't like that game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/118695-playway-sapoland-is-ripping-off-oni-and-other-developers/#findComment-1339435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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