New Wendy Lore

[FreyaMaluk]

Mourire sounds like French and it think it translates to "dying", "death"

IMO it looks probs like a seance kinda thing... "I see dead people"

[axxel]

6 minutes ago, minespatch said:

She was trying to warn him?

I think you wanted to write "her". It might be pure coincidence that Maxwell kidnap Wendy  (Maxwell don't recognize her as her niece and Wendy just suspect he might be related to her) but I think there is some twists why Wendy (and the other survivors) is in the constant. I think it's the Constant's world logic why Abigal can manifests as a spectral being. Maybe she haunted the Voxola radio and it resonated with the music and Them and etc. It was Wendy's biggest wish to stay together with Abigal.

[minespatch]

1 minute ago, axxel said:

I think you wanted to write "her".

15 minutes ago, axxel said:

On April 17th 1906 Charly paid a visit at Maxwell's flat.

You said it man, not me.

[sudoku]

6 minutes ago, axxel said:

I think you wanted to write "her". It might be pure coincidence that Maxwell kidnap Wendy  (Maxwell don't recognize her as her niece and Wendy just suspect he might be related to her) but I think there is some twists why Wendy (and the other survivors) is in the constant. I think it's the Constant's world logic why Abigal can manifests as a spectral being. Maybe she haunted the Voxola radio and it resonated with the music and Them and etc. It was Wendy's biggest wish to stay together with Abigal.

if we compare to Wilson, wilson hears the music and is tempted by unknown knowledge. I think Wendy hearing the music in her head represents her desire for unknown knowledge to talk to her sister or even bring her back. I do think that the seance she attended worked and allowed her to talk to interact with abigail, but i also think that whatever sinster being was putting the music into her head was clearly luring her into a trap with performing the seance. 

As for Maxwell not recognizing her I think thats more to do with the fact that he was clearly not himself while on the throne but was being manipulated or possessed. Plus I think its clear he hadnt seen the twins in a long time at that point. 

Wendy thinking she might be related is due to the fact that he is literally a spitting image of Jack.

[Rinkusan]

I honestly don't have very much to work on regarding the date, but this is what I have to contribute. We know from the 4th William Carter Puzzle that Jack and Wendy live in Corona, California (yes, the coincidence isn't lost on me. Insert whatever Coronavirus joke you want here). 
https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/William_Carter_Puzzles

I'm not sure if this bit of history will help all that much, but the U.S. during April 1914 was involved in the Mexican Revolution. Relations with the de facto Mexican leader and the U.S. under Woodrow Wilson tore apart over an accidental capture of American sailors, misinformation released to the press, and demands for the Mexicans to salute the American flag as a form of apology. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampico_Affair

[CaptainChaotica]

10 hours ago, Charlie Dark said:

in that photo it looks like they're performing some sort of ritual...it's a dead giveaway 

LEL  XD

10 hours ago, Szczuku said:

'In loving memory of (Abiga)il Lillian Carter'

Sooo... I guess Abigail has a second name. That's cool 

I kinda love that her middle name is Lillian, 'cos I have a Sim from way back, from the Williams (!) family, who is named Lillian.  She's also kind of a goth AND, named after a _silent movie_ star (Lillian Gish), so the era of inspiration is similar.  Weird stuff, including aliens and elves, runs in her family. 

Oh, and twins.  Those also run in the family. Lillian Williams' aunt and dad are twins and so are her...(thinks for a second) second cousins?  Her first cousin's kids.

Spoiler

(although as you can see, she's "goth" in appearance only.  Heh.)  This is Sims 2, in case you were wondering.  I SAID this was a Sims family from "way back", after all...

Kittyface in the background is named Lum.  Kittyfaces should _always_ be acknowledged. 

(there's also a single rose in a vase in the background.  OOOH, ROSES.  wHaT cOuLd It MeAn???  It means someone in the family had a good date recently and said date dropped that off as a gift.  I forget who.  : P)

Coincidence?  Yes, absolutely all of it. But a coolish one. 

9 hours ago, 7Meias said:

6) Assuming she was brought in around the time of the short (1914) and that wilson, the last survivor, was in 1931 that also means jack has been a wholeton of 20 years without his two daughters and brother, who disappeared myteriously

WHOAHWHOAHWHOAHWHOAH waitwaitwait, 1931?  _Last_ survivor?  Where are you getting these from?  We don't know their order at all, other than that Maxwell, Charlie, Wolfgang and Wes were definitely earlier than the majority, and 1931?  The devs themselves have said that Wilson entered the Constant in "around 1920".

Don't mean to sound jerky there; just...I'm genuinely curious where you got those conclusions from.

The 1914 thing does suggest that Wendy got here earlier than some of the others, and that also explains why she's so much younger than I was originally thinking.  Born by at least 1904 + 1920 = teenager, after all.  (This also kills my half-theory that Abigail may have died from the Spanish Flu in 1918, but I never truly believed that one anyway.  It was just a "Hey, if they can tie in the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, _I_ can tie in a real-life historical tragedy, too!" kind of thing.)

All the stuff about seances opening portals to the Shadow Realm and all that...yeah...I can see that.  This is a version of the "real world" where magic actually works, after all.  Are the shadows powering it or did it ALWAYS work in this world, and, if the former, how did they get magic to work in our world in order to MAKE the connection to it in the first place?  At any rate, Maxwell was able to do real magic and cause real damage, and real portals (by "real" in all these cases I of course mean CANON, actually happened to the characters in question, wasn't Just a
Dream) sucked the survivors into the Constant, so...

I don't know why, but I've always kinda seen the Shipwrecked characters as being the last ones to get sucked in, real-world-chronology-wise.  Well, maybe not Woodlegs; he might've been there a while.  Or not.  Anyway Wilson 1931 = no, and  Wilson LAST =....????

...Notorious

[minespatch]

The wiki just posted the icon to Wendy's ectoherbology tab. Looks very much like ancient magics.

[fimmatek]

Gonna post it here, there are some new quotes from Maxwell that are more than interesting.

Spoiler

SISTURN = GENERIC = "I can't help but wonder... no, it couldn't be."

ABIGAIL_HEART = LEVEL3 = "...I wonder how my brother is doing."

Based on the first one, Maxwell seems to realise all the similarities between Wendy and what he knows about his brother's daughter (off-topic, but what is the son/dauther of a brother/sister in english? I couldn't find it out). This probably means that Abigail died before Maxwell lost contact to his family and he knew only supersifially about the happenings there, that's why he doesn't recognise Wendy. 

The second quote very heavily suggests that he realised who Wendy and Abigail are... why would he think about his brother otherways? He isn't that kind of person who cares and thinks about how others are doing. (We could examine the pictures and hints from the old puzzles, I might do it later but can't right now.)

[minespatch]

6 minutes ago, fimmatek said:

what is the son/dauther of a brother/sister in english?

Nephew and Niece

[NightWonder7]

I'm just going to toss in my two cents here.

I saw someone mentioning that what Wendy wrote in her diary was an implication of Abigail warning her about the Constant and Them. The looping music probably being the rag time as mentioned earlier. It could also be Them trying to lure her.

Some birth year and age speculations: Klei stated that Wendy was somewhere between 8-10 years old. If we assume she was abducted the same year she wrote that diary entry (1914), that would mean she and her sister were born in 1904-1906. The post card Jack sent his brother in the William Carter puzzle was sent somewhere between 1901 and 1904, based on the few dates that were mentioned throughout the puzzle. (And we assume the puzzle pieces happened in chronological order). Wendy and Abigail were vaguely mentioned in that card, and the way they were mentioned suggested that they were already born. In conclusion, the only way for all this information to correlate is if the twins were born in 1904, making Wendy 10 years old. You could argue that the diary entry was written post abduction, but I don't think that's the case.

[7Meias]

8 hours ago, CaptainChaotica said:

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No worries, fam!! First of all there was actually a small typo of mine, wilson came in 1921, not 1931 xD 
And secondly, there's actually many sources for the things and dates I said but thankfully the wiki already did a good job on putting them all together in a single place. The first ever timeline was revealed here and the bigger, more complete version (with source links) is in https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Story_Line

(Sadly, theres nothing about the shipwrecked caracters, i wish there was :'''(   )

As for the magic, I actually dont have an answer for that myself- Tho we do know that the shadows can come and go in the real world now ever since Max opened the book, as seen in Willow's short. Though, how many can do that, and even how hard it actually is do so is another mystery to solve.

[E-17 Ghora]

I will add my two cents in there: what we saw in the cinematic was not a flashback, but how Wendy's obsession with the supernatural started.

Look carefully at how the cinematic starts: there is a red flower carried by the wind who lands right in front of Wendy. In mid-air. Where it lingers for a moment. A second later Abigail appears in front of Wendy and she drags her next to the rocks to play with her. Then she falls from the rocks into a bush full of flowers, where one of the flowers got stuck in her hair and suggests Wendy to wear one as well. Until that moment Wendy had no flower in her hair. And she still had it when she was walking back home. And after that she and her father were back in, the flower starts to fly again and there is the reveal: Abigail was there as a ghost all along. There was no flashback in the cinematic, but the first visit from Abigail as a ghost to her sister Wendy.

And Wendy must have realized it as well when she looked at herself in the mirror. Abigail suggested her to keep the flower in her hair and the flower was still there. It was no memory or hallucination - Abigail was there. And after getting the physical proof that you can still see your dead sister, you obviously start to make your own researches on seances and how to communicate with the dead people. Add the weird dreams to the mix and Wendy just had to tamper with supernatural entities, and this tampering might or might have not caused her arrival into the Constant. This is just like the explosion in Willow's cinematic - did Willow make explode the closet mixing the chemicals she found in there or because she has pyrokinetic powers triggered by strong emotions like fear? We cannot know for sure, and everyone is free to make up their own idea. It is one of the good things about Don't Starve lore, after all.

[4 Da LOLs]

4 hours ago, NightWonder7 said:

Klei stated that Wendy was somewhere between 8-10 years old.

wasn't that like dropped in the Maxwell meme thread?

[NightWonder7]

1 hour ago, 4 Da LOLs said:

wasn't that like dropped in the Maxwell meme thread?

Was it? I wasn't aware of that in that case; I'm not on that thread very often. Where was it dropped?

[4 Da LOLs]

1 hour ago, NightWonder7 said:

Was it? I wasn't aware of that in that case; I'm not on that thread very often. Where was it dropped?

awhile back by JoeW I don't know the page

[E-17 Ghora]

5 minutes ago, 4 Da LOLs said:

awhile back by JoeW I don't know the page

You're welcome

[NightWonder7]

29 minutes ago, 4 Da LOLs said:

awhile back by JoeW I don't know the page

22 minutes ago, E-17 Ghora said:

You're welcome

Oh yes, that was the source I referenced initially. I only saw a screenshot of it XD

 

[csc_unit]

On another note about the lore. With this short, I was hoping to know how Abi died ; As I don't think she really died of falling, of course it was in Wendys head. However, there is a very odd noise at the moment where Abi falls. (I invite you to rewatch it if you don't know what i mean) It sounds like screeching tires on asphalt, like a car breaking violently. 

So couples things. If this is screeching tires, it surely points toward that Abi was victim of a car accident of some sort. If this is not a tire noise, what is it and what is this sound doing there. It must mean something cus it has no other purpose.

[Seero]

It's evident that this entire cinematic is a memory, then at the end it switches back too reality with Abigail-less Wendy

[csc_unit]

3 minutes ago, Seero said:

It's evident that this entire cinematic is a memory, then at the end it switches back too reality with Abigail-less Wendy

Whats an evident memory? The prank Abi pulled on Wendy? Or you think she actually died by falling and Wendy is just reenacting the event.?.. But not exactly cus she, in fact, fell into a bush. 

Wendy is, very much affected by her sister's death and I think she is traumatized (* not a real diagnostic from an expert). How I interpret the short is that we see a slice of life. Wendy is reading and just like that she imagines her sister, being who she is, goofing around (probably a reconstitution of different memories + her imagination) - Abi grabs Wendy by the arm and goofs. Then the trauma kicks in, she is subconsciously worried Abi falls to her death (again kinda) - Abi falls!  At this fateful moment, Wendy overhears the sound of screeching tires from the real moment of death. But then, turn of event, and I think this is the very poetic and meaningful moment of the short, Abi is not dead, she is still with her. Oh, in reality, she is dead, but she is still around.