CaRat Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It will be a while before you can use oxygen diffusers because their is no algae until you can break into other biomes and their Is little salt biomes near spawn I need help I has no oxygen left;-; Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallichydra Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 can we get a screenshot of your base, or just more information? do you have access to rust? do you have access to water? is there any oxyferns nearby? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakery Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Wild oxiferns helps but wery little, for me, its only one way - rush to rust converter and after finding water to electrolyzer . The biggest problem - we need advanced miners to deal with obsidian (for geysers open). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promethien Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 You gotta domesticate the oxyferns They are actually very efficient water to oxygen. However you will need more sources of gas no matter what. The ferns convert co2 and o2 at the same ratio dupes breathe. As for breaking into other biomes. Why are you so afraid? You only need the first digging skill to get out of the start biome. The only one you need to be especially careful of is slime and there is far less slime out there than there used to be. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
npnguyen Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 You can dig into a nereby caustic biome and find algea there if you don't have slime biomes in your map. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaRat Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Dude I'm OCD with the gases it like kills me the only 2 gases I'll allow is co2 and oxygen I build deodorizers like everywhere 6 hours ago, metallichydra said: can we get a screenshot of your base, or just more information? do you have access to rust? do you have access to water? is there any oxyferns nearby? Btw for the rust I dont like coldness my duplicates are so stupid they trap themselves 90% of the time I'm working on it but it will take a loooooong time.water no very little I dont wanna remove my only source of water(a mini lake) oxyferns their is around 10 but idk how they work so is that enough info Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Promethien said: As for breaking into other biomes. Why are you so afraid? When I first started playing ONI, I carefully avoided breaching all sources of chlorine because the text said it was toxic. I thought it would kill by dupes because I didn't have protective suits yet. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivodeus Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I am struggling with O2 as well, but I domesticated around 10 Oxyfern for now and it is barely keeping my Colony. If i got it right, we will need a min. of 3 Oxy for 1 dupes (30 g/s per Oxy and 100g/s Dupes, correct me if I am wrong). And occasionally using algae that I scrapped (yes, scrapped because how rare it was in the biome with slime). And now I am on food shortage, trying to grow some lettuce atm. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 49 minutes ago, nivodeus said: I am struggling with O2 as well, but I domesticated around 10 Oxyfern for now and it is barely keeping my Colony. If i got it right, we will need a min. of 3 Oxy for 1 dupes (30 g/s per Oxy and 100g/s Dupes, correct me if I am wrong). And occasionally using algae that I scrapped (yes, scrapped because how rare it was in the biome with slime). And now I am on food shortage, trying to grow some lettuce atm. Lettuce works well. For the ferns, calculate 3.5 per dupe to have a bit of redundancy. With the new changes, one way to kill your colony fast (at least in some asteroid types) is to grow it too fast. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Gurgel said: With the new changes, one way to kill your colony fast (at least in some asteroid types) is to grow it too fast. Accepting a new dupe whenever possible has always been a fast way to kill your colony. Sure it isn't downright impossible to survive gaining a lot of dupes fast, but you need to know what you are doing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Can you even get extra seeds for the oxygen plant? Is it harvestable? Or are you stuck with whatever you can find. It would limit your options a lot if this was the case. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Sasza22 said: Can you even get extra seeds for the oxygen plant? Is it harvestable? Or are you stuck with whatever you can find. It would limit your options a lot if this was the case. As far as I can see (only played Aborea to cycle 16), you have about enough for 3-4 dupes initially, that is if you domesticate them. And no way to get more. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, Gurgel said: Lettuce works well. For the ferns, calculate 3.5 per dupe to have a bit of redundancy. With the new changes, one way to kill your colony fast (at least in some asteroid types) is to grow it too fast. Haven't played much but I see the lettuce likes to drown. Do we know the maximum water/brine they can grow in assuming this is on purpose? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artorias36 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I am struggling with 02 too. Can anybody post their base setup, just to take some advices on how to survive in arborea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurve Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Caustic biomes next to you have algae for a deoxy. Rust biomes next to you have rust and salt for a rustalizer. Dig, my friend. Dig your way to freedom! Alternately, sit in your hole and do as little as possible. First: how much are you digging? Don't excavate the whole thing, you don't have oxylite everywhere like the old start. Your O2 will get spread too thin before your dupes breathe it all. Second: leave wild ferns alone. If you have a half dozen or so in basins with collected co2, that's half a dupe's air for free. Research up to hydroponics and only then farm them. Second and a half: if you're REALLY hard up for oxygen, put ferns in planters and dupes can fetch water manually. You'll need 10 for your starting three dupes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, beowulf2010 said: Haven't played much but I see the lettuce likes to drown. Do we know the maximum water/brine they can grow in assuming this is on purpose? Seems to be one tile. Let me find out... Yes, seems to be exactly one (non-compressed) tile or 999.9kg Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivodeus Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 50 minutes ago, beowulf2010 said: Haven't played much but I see the lettuce likes to drown. Do we know the maximum water/brine they can grow in assuming this is on purpose? Yea, once i get the initial 12 cycles harvested, I am pretty much safe on the food size. I lost few dupes however due to excavating to chlorine biome and they cant reach the base fast enough to get O2. My O2 still spread too thin. This new asteroid type is definitely changing the early to mid game a lot. I simply cant produce enough oxygen and havent even found one rustic biome at all. And I cant use electrolyser because I am low on water. I was just about to make a desalinator. I shld probably just convert all the pW into water temporarily. Do you guys encounter any geyser at all? I am reaching the left and right side of my map and see no geyser at all (might be just my luck and the map seed, but just wondering. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, Gurgel said: Seems to be one tile. Let me find out... Yes, seems to be exactly one (non-compressed) tile or 999.9kg Ah, so as long as they're not 2 tiles deep they should be fine. Sweet. Thanks for checking. (I'm at work for the rest of the day) a Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, nivodeus said: Do you guys encounter any geyser at all? I am reaching the left and right side of my map and see no geyser at all (might be just my luck and the map seed, but just wondering. They are there. I have encountered a number of them using debugging to reveal the maps. No comment on count though. Somebody mentioned that it seems boulders can replace geysers, which if true is a horrible feature. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artorias36 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, nivodeus said: Yea, once i get the initial 12 cycles harvested, I am pretty much safe on the food size. I lost few dupes however due to excavating to chlorine biome and they cant reach the base fast enough to get O2. My O2 still spread too thin. This new asteroid type is definitely changing the early to mid game a lot. I simply cant produce enough oxygen and havent even found one rustic biome at all. And I cant use electrolyser because I am low on water. I was just about to make a desalinator. I shld probably just convert all the pW into water temporarily. Do you guys encounter any geyser at all? I am reaching the left and right side of my map and see no geyser at all (might be just my luck and the map seed, but just wondering. I have 3 geyser all close by, but i need to unlock level 3 mining to see what they have. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, nivodeus said: And I cant use electrolyser because I am low on water. You shouldn't use an electrolyser in such cases anyway, as it'll give a reduced amount of oxygen. Get the water polluted, allow it to off-gas, and then deoderise that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artorias36 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Anybody knows why i can't get the digging skill 3? I learned 1 and 2 but it says that my dupe can't learn this skill. Have they changed something? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxCD Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Artorias36 said: Anybody knows why i can't get the digging skill 3? I learned 1 and 2 but it says that my dupe can't learn this skill. Have they changed something? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaRat Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 So I died my duplicates trapped themselves in the cold biome like IDIOTS anyway. So imma start a new one but Imma start on the same asteroid cus I'm terrible and have tons of problems Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1215898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 On 28/06/2019 at 4:10 PM, Nightinggale said: When I first started playing ONI, I carefully avoided breaching all sources of chlorine because the text said it was toxic. I thought it would kill by dupes because I didn't have protective suits yet. Not now but maybe later, Klei don't like easy game^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108025-oxygen-trouble/#findComment-1216989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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