pancakemafia Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 It just occurred to me that the polluted water inside my refinery reached 15t at 800+ Celsius because it kept working even if the output pipe is broken so the heat inside was trapped. I tried adding new pipes but it wont stand the heat. I tried deconstructing it and overheated the area as soon as the heat got out. I might as well just leave it there and build a new refinery? At least that tropical pacu is happy with the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crypticorb Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Wow. One thing I can't understand is why the heck you are still using it when it's like that? Put the darn thing in a U shaped box, with mesh tiles over it, and build ice tempshift plates at the top until it cools it below 100C, then deconstruct the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, crypticorb said: Put the darn thing in a U shaped box, with mesh tiles over it, and build ice tempshift plates at the top until it cools it below 100C, then deconstruct the whole thing. Ain'tNobodyGotTimeForDat.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, PhailRaptor said: Ain'tNobodyGotTimeForDat.gif Or just build the whole thing inside a steam turbine until all that polluted water becomes cooled steam, then deconstruct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakuraKoi Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I know that feel... so, when am I going to open Pandora's Box? Never! then, when will it break the tiles? Someday... do I hope for it to magically become (superheated) liquid oxygen? Maybe~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I love your profile name, pancakemafia! At least you can resort to pancakes...If everything blows up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 17 hours ago, pancakemafia said: It just occurred to me that the polluted water inside my refinery reached 15t at 800+ Celsius because it kept working even if the output pipe is broken so the heat inside was trapped. I tried adding new pipes but it wont stand the heat. The best solution is prevention. When I build refineries, I put a liquid shutoff sensor on the output so that the output has to be empty for it to run again. EDIT I meant a Liquid Element Sensor that turns off the refinery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 48 minutes ago, Zarquan said: The best solution is prevention. When I build refineries, I put a liquid shutoff sensor on the output so that the output has to be empty for it to run again. But if the pipe breaks before the sensor the refinery will keep going. I've seen some people have it break right at the first section of pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, bleeter6 said: But if the pipe breaks before the sensor the refinery will keep going. I've seen some people have it break right at the first section of pipe. The keyword was "prevention" when your math is solid and a safety system is in place then your pipes won't break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, bleeter6 said: But if the pipe breaks before the sensor the refinery will keep going. I've seen some people have it break right at the first section of pipe. The purpose of he sensor is that you don't get to that point. If your polluted water starts at a decent temperature and isn't looped back in, then it shouldn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, SakuraKoi said: I know that feel... so, when am I going to open Pandora's Box? Never! then, when will it break the tiles? Someday... do I hope for it to magically become (superheated) liquid oxygen? Maybe~ What am I looking at? Can geysers be tricked just like vents with a small amount of liquid? That seems... incredibly useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakuraKoi Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, crypticorb said: What am I looking at? Can geysers be tricked just like vents with a small amount of liquid? That seems... incredibly useful. Indeed, the water is barely 96,4g and 57,8g, 5kg would probably over-pressure the geysers (while it did vent it did not seem like it was moving the water) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Quote Report post Posted 1 hour ago I know that feel... so, when am I going to open Pandora's Box? Never! then, when will it break the tiles? Someday... do I hope for it to magically become (superheated) liquid oxygen? Maybe~ This is very easy. Build in the region a water lock, and lots of deodorizers. The oxygen resulted will be send to the oxylite refineriy, an the oxylite to rockets....or a gas pump and send the polluted oxygen directly to an liquid oxygen facility. There are always solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, SakuraKoi said: Indeed, the water is barely 96,4g and 57,8g, 5kg would probably over-pressure the geysers (while it did vent it did not seem like it was moving the water) Hmmmmmmmmm. I feel like I could bypass the need to pump natural gas or chlorine to prevent over-pressurizing vents, or even condense cool steam geysers. I'll screw around with it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Quote Hmmmmmmmmm. I feel like I could bypass the need to pump natural gas or chlorine to prevent over-pressurizing vents, or even condense cool steam geysers. I'll screw around with it later. muhahahaha i know what you are thinking Beter you can make a direct path of the natural gas vents to the buffer reservoir whit 0 energy consumption, after i finish my top void bunker wall i will start messing whit this. Or build an aquatuner over a cold steam vent and combined whit the steam generator you can cool the condensed water to your desire But the real question is how he deleted the neutronium tiles for building the isolated tiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallion Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 hours ago, pancakemafia said: It just occurred to me that the polluted water inside my refinery reached 15t at 800+ Celsius because it kept working even if the output pipe is broken so the heat inside was trapped. I tried adding new pipes but it wont stand the heat. I tried deconstructing it and overheated the area as soon as the heat got out. I might as well just leave it there and build a new refinery? At least that tropical pacu is happy with the heat. 1. make sure use only one type of liquid coolant 2. make sure used coolant was completely piped out of the refinery, then do another task Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Quote 1. make sure use only one type of liquid coolant 2. make sure used coolant was completely piped out of the refinery, then do another task Not for me. I used first the ponds of polluted water and filter it whit sieve, then i used the clean 40 degrees water and use it again for the steel production. The 96 degrees water i use it for research at the research station, liceloaf production in the early game, or oxygen production... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallion Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, tzionut said: Not for me. I used first the ponds of polluted water and filter it whit sieve, then i used the clean 40 degrees water and use it again for the steel production. The 96 degrees water i use it for research at the research station, liceloaf production in the early game, or oxygen production... referred to the second advice, if you still left some 96C water in your refinery, and finish another task, you will get left mount + 400kg, 96 + 56 C temperature water, if the third task finished you will get hotter water as previous method Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Quote referred to the second advice, if you still left some 96C water in your refinery, and finish another task, you will get left mount + 400kg, 96 + 56 C temperature water, if the third task finished you will get hotter water as previous method This is real. For preventing this usual don't make steel auto produce.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancakemafia Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 5 hours ago, crypticorb said: One thing I can't understand is why the heck you are still using it when it's like that? Put the darn thing in a U shaped box, with mesh tiles over it, and build ice tempshift plates at the top until it cools it below 100C, then deconstruct the whole thing. Ice tempshift plates! Great idea! I was actually using that when I forgot the sieved water was hot. Better than those sculptures IMO. I just tried it but it's not affecting the polluted water inside..... Okay here's what I got. Just testing it if it has enough heat to produce steam for the turbine. So far it's working. 4 hours ago, SakuraKoi said: I know that feel... so, when am I going to open Pandora's Box? Never! then, when will it break the tiles? Someday... do I hope for it to magically become (superheated) liquid oxygen? Maybe~ Sucks right? Haha You could, probably automate some deodorizers. Something like this, then cool it down. I cool it down to remove the slimelung. I have to keep an eye on for me next refinery. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGCat Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 U are not alone! These mistakes are will be done mostly by new players. I did it the same way at my first games. I have another hint for u to deal with it and to produce steam: The Petroleum is heating up by the refineries. Above, the polluted water change at 119C to steam. This steam is useful for your rockets or your steam turbines. It is a little bit to cold to run a steam turbine, but u can flood the steam turbine room with it without to heating up normal water. So, the process to heating up the steam to run a turbine takes less time. But! It is recommend that u have a slush geyser to run this system. U boil much water with this technique. Solution for your problem! Make 6 times GOLD or WOLFRAM and the temp goes down! In early stages of the game, i use normal water too to run the refinery, but if u make steal, don't make many of it in a row. I do one steal, gold, steal, gold and so on. So the temp keeps low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamLogan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 10 hours ago, pancakemafia said: It just occurred to me that the polluted water inside my refinery reached 15t at 800+ Celsius because it kept working even if the output pipe is broken so the heat inside was trapped. I tried adding new pipes but it wont stand the heat. It's a classic error when you don't follow from close all the fix on ONI. Here's the solution : 1. Enclosed your refinery in a insulated room, this one is over. 2. To refine classic metals : polluted water -> Metal Refinery -> Water Sieve. Never loop the polluted water or have a huge cooling system. 3. To refine steel : crude oil -> Metal Refinery -> Oil Refinery. Personnaly I only use the Metal Refinery for steel, since the last patches, the machine is too constraining, Smooth Hatch is so more easier and cost nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Personally I used to use magma as the coolant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancakemafia Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 It's unlimited power! 2 hours ago, SamLogan said: Personnaly I only use the Metal Refinery for steel, since the last patches, the machine is too constraining, Smooth Hatch is so more easier and cost nothing. I agree with the hatches, I have not explored them though. I have an iron volcano for that. Just have to figure out a way to cool it for the little guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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