Do Slicksters consume less CO2/s in Rancher patch?

[Waifu Wars]

My own tests say yes. Can anyone confirm?

[travaldofan]

i think u have trap them with doors to work them efficient but i haven't played new update so nerf?

[Coolthulhu]

They consume 1kg of CO2 per day (600 seconds). Before, the would consume 1kg of CO2 per ~4 seconds. So they're over 100 times less time-efficient now.

On a plus side, they generate food (eggs) when groomed and fed.

[chemie]

So no more slicker for CO2 removal from combustion.

Which means more water for CO2 scrubbers...but with geyser change, that might be very hard to obtain.

[dankusnher]

7 minutes ago, chemie said:

So no more slicker for CO2 removal from combustion.

Which means more water for CO2 scrubbers...but with geyser change, that might be very hard to obtain.

What? A little amount of water can run a scrubber for a really long time with a water sieve

[Oozinator]

7 minutes ago, dankusnher said:

What? A little amount of water can run a scrubber for a really long time with a water sieve

Hmm for me it feels not "optional". Is game forcing players, with limited fresh water, to go the polluted water - water sieve way?
Before update, i did not use any scrubber, as soon as i got access to slicksters.
Game is forcing me at many points, to do things in a specific way.
I can't see it as creative freedom addition, but that's only me.

[Coolthulhu]

2 minutes ago, Oozinator said:

Before update, i did not use any scrubber, as soon as i got access to slicksters.

Honestly, this is encouraging creativity, not discouraging it.

Before, you would disregard scrubbers as soon as you had slicksters. Now you either downscale to fit the weakened slicksters, add scrubbers or use tricks (gas deletion, soldification etc.).

Still, that 100 time nerf is just too much. Creatures aren't free, they cost our precious CPU cycles and RAM.

[Oozinator]

Just now, Coolthulhu said:

Honestly, this is encouraging creativity, not discouraging it.

 

Was only "my way" of doing things. Others used scrubbers / sieve, or fert plants and stuff.
But for the slicksters, it feels for me, like a deleted function.
 

[Kermack]

If ONI shares anything with DS then we should expect the game to become much for difficult and unforgiving as development progresses.

[Technoincubus]

The only change here is that Istill will never build scrubber but will spawn much much more slicksters and pile them in the same CO2 conversion room

[Saturnus]

2 minutes ago, Technoincubus said:

The only change here is that Istill will never build scrubber but will spawn much much more slicksters and pile them in the same CO2 conversion room

RIP FPS

[Oozinator]

Just now, Saturnus said:

RIP FPS

Hotfix!
Play with one dupe!

[SchlauFuchs]

It feels to me that the efficiency of Puffs has been reduced, too?

[PhailRaptor]

I think they even stated in the stream that all production animals had their output nerfed, but that when they are happy their rate increases.  Sounds like even at max happiness, though, their overall output will be down.

[goboking]

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I thought they were too good before and in need of a pretty drastic nerf.  They were free CO2 destruction and oil production all rolled into one and they rendered the oil well obsolete.

[NanoD]

Before they were a crucial part of recycling material. Now they are egg lay machines.

[goboking]

5 minutes ago, NanoD said:

Before they were a crucial part of recycling material. Now they are egg lay machines.

Convenient, not crucial.  Both CO2 removal and oil production are possible without slicksters.

[Technoincubus]

20 minutes ago, NanoD said:

Before they were a crucial part of recycling material. Now they are egg lay machines.

They still are. You just hatch about 10-20 of them and pile them into CO2 destruction room. 

[NanoD]

2 minutes ago, Technoincubus said:

They still are. You just hatch about 10-20 of them and pile them into CO2 destruction room. 

you need about 100 to have same conversion rate as one prepatch silckster. 

[Technoincubus]

You don't have to feed them, they kinda feed themselves. So wait until you have that 100 slicksters, they can fit into 1 tile anyway.

[CodingKitteh]

7 hours ago, Coolthulhu said:

Honestly, this is encouraging creativity, not discouraging it.

Agreed, which I believe should be part of ONI, not copy-pasta factory modules. 15 slickster to provide all crude oil needs of a base, get out!

 

6 hours ago, Kermack said:

If ONI shares anything with DS then we should expect the game to become much for difficult and unforgiving as development progresses.

I feel like Don't Starve success is because of its replayability. I do NOT want ONI to be a build a base, set-it-and-forget-it kind of game. It's a colony survival. This game isn't factorio, where it gets boring once you finish.

[Technoincubus]

The irony is that now slickster CO2=>oil conversion is much easier, because you don't have to hunt for slicksters, you can have one and then spawn a hundred. And in addition to oil production you also get ****load of eggs. So new patch not only makes carbon skimmer even more useless, it returns food situation to pre-patch meallice, where you could ignore food alltogether after you set up initial mealwod.

[trukogre]

20 minutes ago, Technoincubus said:

The irony is that now slickster CO2=>oil conversion is much easier, because you don't have to hunt for slicksters, you can have one and then spawn a hundred. And in addition to oil production you also get ****load of eggs. So new patch not only makes carbon skimmer even more useless, it returns food situation to pre-patch meallice, where you could ignore food alltogether after you set up initial mealwod.

No, it's much harder, because before you could find 3-4 in a room, and pipe your co2 there.  If you try to run with 400 slicksters now to get the same conversion, your game will lag or crash.  Playing the game while it's horribly lagging or crashed is harder, so it's harder now.  Trying to get eggs leads to crashing as well.  If you are able to get tons of eggs without crashing, then perhaps food is easier for you now, but for those of us who just crash out, it's not, at least not yet.

[Technoincubus]

It is even more ironic that game is uing hardware restriction instead of in-game ones.

Still possible. 20 slicksters can convert 20 kg per cycle. That's a lot

[trukogre]

10 hours ago, goboking said:

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I thought they were too good before and in need of a pretty drastic nerf.  They were free CO2 destruction and oil production all rolled into one and they rendered the oil well obsolete.

I think that "they were too good and needed a drastic nerf" is probably not an unpopular opinion.  I definitely think they needed a nerf.  Cutting output by 99% isn't a nerf, nor is it a drastic nerf, it's a Texas chainsaw massacre. But slicksters are still OP, now they're just OP egglayers.  Klei just has to dial up the co2 throughput a tad, so they're only nerfed 95% instad of 99%, and dial back the egglaying and crashing of these creatures by a bit, and they'll be right in the sweet spot, imo.  We pretty much all seem to see it, so why didn't Klei?